The Street fighter V General: Tokido Still Murdering :`-(

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  • NeclordNeclord Joined: Posts: 3,955
    edited August 13
    Zangief in GF. Let's go!

    EDIT: Oh nvm, LF first.
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  • ZioSerpeZioSerpe Pecking order Joined: Posts: 815
    This Kichipa-mu kid is getting sponsored after this
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  • NeclordNeclord Joined: Posts: 3,955
    VS Fighting Top 8 also started.

    Xian vs Luffy first match

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  • NeclordNeclord Joined: Posts: 3,955
    Luffy won vs Xian 3:0

    Wow.
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  • SkortSkort Joined: Posts: 705
    So any reveal after all this ?
  • ZioSerpeZioSerpe Pecking order Joined: Posts: 815
    Luffy "I'm not gonna main Mika anymore" just 3-0ed Xian. At the same time, Fuudo beat the Gief player to make it into GF.

    I doubt Mika players can find another char that gives them what Mika does, pretty much like Juri players, but you know... with the difference Mika is good, not overpowered like season 1 but still
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  • NeclordNeclord Joined: Posts: 3,955
    Luffy won't switch anyway.

    If he does switch, it can only be Laura. Laura and Mika are the only characters he would main.

    You know why.
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  • ZioSerpeZioSerpe Pecking order Joined: Posts: 815
    Neclord wrote: »
    Luffy won't switch anyway.

    If he does switch, it can only be Laura. Laura and Mika are the only characters he would main.

    You know why.

    in theory Laura would be the answer, but I don't think she actually feels like Mika to a Mika player and the needs only made Mika players need to step up their game, but she's still strong and it is not worth to throw away all the character Knoweledge for a minor upgrade
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  • Darc RequiemDarc Requiem The Light Emitting Darkness Joined: Posts: 7,818
    edited August 13
    Neclord wrote: »
    Luffy won't switch anyway.

    If he does switch, it can only be Laura. Laura and Mika are the only characters he would main.

    You know why.

    I think someone else qualifies

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  • NeclordNeclord Joined: Posts: 3,955
    Nice finish at the end!


    What!? The trophy gets handed over by Lord Momochi himself? I would never clean this trophy.
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  • SkortSkort Joined: Posts: 705
    ZioSerpe wrote: »
    Every time I see a Necalli jab AA I get salty

    Now hold dat salt while knowing they nerfed Juri's but kept Necalli's and all that while Necalli being a much stronger character still.


    Just Capcom things.
  • NeclordNeclord Joined: Posts: 3,955
    Infexious Abigail now on stream!
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  • Darc RequiemDarc Requiem The Light Emitting Darkness Joined: Posts: 7,818
    @Evil Canadian WAKE UP Infexious Abigail on stream

  • LordWilliam1234LordWilliam1234 Permanent Character Crisis Joined: Posts: 21,101
    edited August 13
    Got bored, checked where exactly I placed at EVO.

    769th. Kinda what I expected. Higher than LTG apparently which is...something I guess? Probably not. :razz:

    Sorta want to change my tag though. "LordWilliam" doesn't really roll off the tongue and sounds pretentious when my name is being called...just got no ideas for a good alternative at the moment.

    EDIT: WildLink will do I suppose. Think I'll keep my username the same on here though.
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  • SkortSkort Joined: Posts: 705
    Kinda random but for some reason i have this theme in my mind.

  • willselesswillseless Joined: Posts: 2,331
    appomo wrote: »
    Got bored, checked where exactly I placed at EVO.

    769th. Kinda what I expected. Higher than LTG apparently which is...something I guess? Probably not. :razz:

    Sorta want to change my tag though. "LordWilliam" doesn't really roll off the tongue and sounds pretentious when my name is being called...just got no ideas for a good alternative at the moment.

    ThickLord, BumLord, LordoftheBum,ThickWilli, ThirstyWilliams,LordWoo, LoWi, WhoisMichaelJacksonWilliams
    luana-o.gif

    :pensive:

    Damn, you're leveling up pretty fast.
    Use the tag Master Baiter.
  • LordWilliam1234LordWilliam1234 Permanent Character Crisis Joined: Posts: 21,101
    willseless wrote: »
    appomo wrote: »
    Got bored, checked where exactly I placed at EVO.

    769th. Kinda what I expected. Higher than LTG apparently which is...something I guess? Probably not. :razz:

    Sorta want to change my tag though. "LordWilliam" doesn't really roll off the tongue and sounds pretentious when my name is being called...just got no ideas for a good alternative at the moment.

    ThickLord, BumLord, LordoftheBum,ThickWilli, ThirstyWilliams,LordWoo, LoWi, WhoisMichaelJacksonWilliams
    luana-o.gif

    :pensive:

    Damn, you're leveling up pretty fast.
    Use the tag Master Baiter.

    ...isn't that already taken? :rofl:
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  • FrozteyFroztey The Ascended One Joined: Posts: 8,463 mod
    edited August 13
    Perky butts are nicer butts

    And did Fuudo win or not? If so. Called it. GF at least otherwise WTF.
  • willselesswillseless Joined: Posts: 2,331
    willseless wrote: »
    appomo wrote: »
    Got bored, checked where exactly I placed at EVO.

    769th. Kinda what I expected. Higher than LTG apparently which is...something I guess? Probably not. :razz:

    Sorta want to change my tag though. "LordWilliam" doesn't really roll off the tongue and sounds pretentious when my name is being called...just got no ideas for a good alternative at the moment.

    ThickLord, BumLord, LordoftheBum,ThickWilli, ThirstyWilliams,LordWoo, LoWi, WhoisMichaelJacksonWilliams
    luana-o.gif

    :pensive:

    Damn, you're leveling up pretty fast.
    Use the tag Master Baiter.

    ...isn't that already taken? :rofl:

    Lord Baiter then.
  • OceanMachineOceanMachine ROCKET LAUNCHER GOD Joined: Posts: 9,017
    Luffy got downloaded.
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  • amrraedamrraed put WW in SF5 Joined: Posts: 4,313
    edited August 13
    amrraed wrote: »
    Froztey wrote: »
    Volt wrote: »
    ZioSerpe wrote: »
    Who is in top 8? I was out for dinner

    @Neclord posted it.

    Street Fighter 5 — Top 8

    Winners bracket
    GRPT|Fuudo (R. Mika) vs. Acqua (Ibuki)
    /r/Kappa|Poongko (Kolin) vs. GRPT|Haitani (Necalli)

    Losers bracket
    DouyuTV|Xiao Hai (Cammy) vs. AW|Nemo (Urien)
    Kichipa-mu (Zangief) vs. Chris Tatarian (Ken)

    Fuudo takes this

    Fuudo doesn't win shit. He will lose to literally anyone in GF a best.

    @Froztey
    I have been burned by Fuudo's dedication to second place too many times now. Told ya yesterday.
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  • NeclordNeclord Joined: Posts: 3,955
    Mika is still very strong
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  • BeastEGBeastEG One day, I'll realize I'm bad at FG's Joined: Posts: 405
    Got bored, checked where exactly I placed at EVO.

    769th. Kinda what I expected. Higher than LTG apparently which is...something I guess? Probably not. :razz:

    Sorta want to change my tag though. "LordWilliam" doesn't really roll off the tongue and sounds pretentious when my name is being called...just got no ideas for a good alternative at the moment.

    EDIT: WildLink will do I suppose. Think I'll keep my username the same on here though.

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    Friend or foe!!!
  • ZioSerpeZioSerpe Pecking order Joined: Posts: 815
    It was the weekend of 2nd place Mika apparently
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  • GenistarGenistar Master Drayden Joined: Posts: 4,923
    If you really want to be vskill happy with kolin's vskill, at least cover it with hailstorm.
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  • Intuitive2011Intuitive2011 Cr.Mk XX Hadoken Joined: Posts: 3,512
    @LordWilliam1234

    Call yourself "TwinBlades". :)
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  • KingCrimsonKingCrimson CFN: OldManRage Joined: Posts: 724
    edited August 13
    Do you guys have any tips on correcting bad habits?

    I reviewed some of my latest losses this morning and noted like 26 areas where I need to improve. I posted them in this spoiler if anyone would be patient enough to read through them. The notes are very detailed, so I understand not doing it, but I would appreciate it greatly...

    However, just general tips on fixing bad habits (like sweeping at point blank range, mashing buttons when pressured in the corner, doing too many jump-in attacks, etc), would also be appreciated.

    1. Still throwing out bad DP's:
    - Did a DP at the very start of round before opponent could even jump
    - Did a DP after blocking an opponent's special, and since my DP will have slow startup, the opponent will most likely block it, which they did

    2. I am free to neutral jumps and cross-ups on wake up, and even cross-ups in neutral (especially when I'm pressing buttons - if the opponent is out of the range for my buttons, I don't need to be pressing every button under the sun. Press buttons when I'm in the range, or maybe if they try to walk forward, but don't just mash buttons).

    3. After I knock someone down, I may try to neutral jump them on their wake up, but it seems like I'll do it based on a normal rise timing and not may attention to what the opponent is actually doing. In one instance, they did a quick-rise and had come up before I even jumped. I tried to jump after they already stood up, but they were able to jab me and follow it up with a combo.

    4. During a match, I'm not learning when an opponent has spotted a weakness of mine and exploits it:
    - One opponent AA'd one of my jump in attacks during neutral, and yet, I did it again, where he AA'd that one as well, and then jumped in at this opponent two more times, and was punished (over the course of two matches). It seems that I have a tendency to jump in when we're just standing around in neutral and I'm within jumping distance, perhaps I'm bored, or impatient, but it's not a good strategy, particularly against someone who constantly AA's my jump-in attempts. Walking/dashing forward would be a better thing to do, as it will startup the action again, and would have less risk.

    5. I'm still not learning my opponent's tendencies:
    - One opponent would only either neutral jump my wake-up or throw, and with that in mind, I should have been able to do at least block or reverse every wake-up, but I didn't.

    6. I need to follow-up with my frame traps. If I do Cr. HP and it's blocked, but then follow up with St. MP and it hits, I need to combo off of that MP.

    7. Stop sweeping at point black range!

    8. Don't start a round with any move automatically, wait to see what the opponent does, or doesn't do.

    9. When I'm in the corner, I seem to just buttons without really paying attention to what my opponent is doing. For examples, if they're near me and pressuring me, I may just mash throw, despite them attacking me.

    10. I still will try a jumping attack on an opponent is too close to land a jumping HP on, yet a cross-up attack will do, but I'll still throw out the HP which will whiff

    11. Need to know the range of my opponent's normals. I walked up to a crouching Vega, who has a very long reach claw attack, and he just swiped at me for free once I was within his range.

    12. Need to know when it's safe to punish opponents, Cammy's V-skill is safe on block, yet, I will throw out jabs after it to try and punish her and she'll get a Counter.

    13. Do not do you HP ~ HP target combo on a blocking opponent, the recovery of the second hit is very long.

    14. STOP MASHING BUTTONS!

    15. If I don't have time for an AA DP, do B+ HP. Or, sometimes I do have the time, but have to be very quick with the execution, particularly if I'm still recovering from a whiffed button, or they're jumping in at close range. These are also great times for B + HP.

    16. Only do Raging Demon if it will kill the opponent. If an opponent is jumping in and I have both bars, I could activate V-Trigger, do my normal CA, and still have the V-Trigger for a portion of this fight. Using a Raging Demon that won't finish off an opponent, just strips away my most powerful resources.

    17. When walking forward, I need to make a conscious effort to stop pressing forward before doing an attack, unless it's like F+HP, and that's my goal:
    - I often walk forward but then try to throw a fireball and a DP will come out that is usually punished.
    - Sometimes, I walk forward and to try throw a standing MP, but still hold forward so an overhead comes out, which has a long startup, and is very punishable if blocked.

    18. Work on my Crush Counter combos. I need to find out the spacing where a walk forward and LK Tatsu is too far. If I need to do MK Tatsu, don't bother following it up with a DP, as I often whiff and usually get punished for it.

    19. If going for Air-to-Air attacks don't use HP. Use MP to get the first hit.

    20. Don't try to throw when too far for it to reach. I once did a Cr. HP which was blocked and then tried to throw without walking forward.

    21. Get better at hit-confirming. Don't throw a Tatsu after a two-hit hit confirm if the opponent blocked both normals.

    22. Don't do LK Tatsu at crouching opponents.

    23. When I have a chance to Crush Counter a whiffed DP, do it and take full advantage of it.

    24. Continue blocking until I see an opening, which probably wouldn't be until after a special attack, and likely most hard normals, and overheads.

    25. Remember to neutral jump on my wake up against characters with command grabs.

    26. Don't throw out supers raw. A lot of times, I'll be trying to use my special as a counter and will get within range of it to hit and will just throw it out while we're both in neutral, and if they're not pressing a button, they'll just block it, which happens a lot. Also, there are times I try to use it as an AA, which is fine and often hits, but often I'm too late and the opponent can land and block by the time the active frames come out.

    Some of these I can probably work on through Training and then doing Casual Matches while being okay to lose and just trying to work on these during actual matches (such as 2, 3, 6, 10, 15, 17, 18, 19, 21, and 22).

    But the majority of the items are just bad habits that I can't seem to shake - most of which I've been doing since day 1.
  • MilesRieyMilesRiey Cavalry is here Joined: Posts: 4,983
    edited August 13
    MilesRiey wrote: »
    Froztey wrote: »
    All you mf'ers who dropped Juri while she was bottom tier aren't allowed to reinstate into the club.

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    pontypool is a good movie and you should all watch it.

    A great unique take on horror.
    there is an infection. The infection resides in the english language

    Oh yis someone here knows about This movie, it's a great horror film and one of my favorites for sure.

    Literally made that gif out of taking screenshots of the movie heh
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  • OceanMachineOceanMachine ROCKET LAUNCHER GOD Joined: Posts: 9,017
    @KingCrimson The main reply for all of the points above could be simply: stop doing it. Like literally, try to do entire games forcing yourself to not do those things, even if the opponent gives you good occasions to do them. Don't DP even if you know they're gonna press buttons on wakeup, don't jump on them even if you're in a crossup situations, don't sweep even if you see them walking backward... etc. Do it a couple sets for every mistake you've listed until you start resisting the urge of doing it all the time. When you've done that you'll start understanding when and how to jump, at which points it's a good idea to DP...

    Also neutral jumping against command grabs isn't always a good idea, because 1. most of those characters also have air grabs 2. they are sometimes negative on your wakeup and you don't always need to be scared about pressing buttons.
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    just lost connection to opponent 3 times
    in battle lounge
    after playing 2 matches per set

    amazing
  • KingCrimsonKingCrimson CFN: OldManRage Joined: Posts: 724
    Thanks @OceanMachine that's great advice. I will do just that.
  • NeclordNeclord Joined: Posts: 3,955
    Soa is streaming, super diamond Juri.

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  • NCK_FeroceNCK_Feroce <------Not a Shill ('til Makoto happen) Joined: Posts: 2,768
    edited August 13
    Neclord wrote: »
    Luffy won't switch anyway.

    If he does switch, it can only be Laura. Laura and Mika are the only characters he would main.

    You know why.

    Laura has that unique "traits", but is really too far from Luffy playstyle. I bet Menat will have a growth spurt in her final design,just like Ed enjoyed roids after the Story Mode and at that point the character change could be possible for him.
  • delete_medelete_me Joined: Posts: 19
    edited August 13
    Beekmeer wrote: »
    Genistar wrote: »
    If you really want to be vskill happy with kolin's vskill, at least cover it with hailstorm.

    This felt so good when I did it:
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    Ended up losing the match though, cause I'm still trash with Kolin.

    In that scenario in particular V-Skill isn't a good option since you were expecting Flash Kick anyway (it's his only projectile invincible move). So going either for another counter or just waiting and punishing it is a better choice there if you have the read already. Punish combo into CA would almost have killed him there.
  • TWINBLADESTWINBLADES ON YOUR KNEES!!!! Joined: Posts: 8,243
    edited August 13
    Neclord wrote: »
    I don't know how I feel about these V-Skill uses of Kolin.

    Are you supposed to play her like that? Because Poongko got punished a lot for it.

    Yes and no

    Poonkgo can play smarter than that and he's beat many of the higher ranked Cammy's online. But for whatever reason he wasn't trying to space that at all. He also wasn't going for any counters and did like no hail set ups.


    1. He should have been using more lk.Vanity
    2. He should have been using more mk.Vanity to condition Hai.
    3. He should have been throwing out more lp.Hail to cover Cammy from using forward moving specials.


    I'm disappointed in Poonkgo. Felt like he quit mid way.


    Meh
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  • FrozteyFroztey The Ascended One Joined: Posts: 8,463 mod
    @KingCrimson The main reply for all of the points above could be simply: stop doing it. Like literally, try to do entire games forcing yourself to not do those things, even if the opponent gives you good occasions to do them. Don't DP even if you know they're gonna press buttons on wakeup, don't jump on them even if you're in a crossup situations, don't sweep even if you see them walking backward... etc. Do it a couple sets for every mistake you've listed until you start resisting the urge of doing it all the time. When you've done that you'll start understanding when and how to jump, at which points it's a good idea to DP...

    Also neutral jumping against command grabs isn't always a good idea, because 1. most of those characters also have air grabs 2. they are sometimes negative on your wakeup and you don't always need to be scared about pressing buttons.

    This is bad advice
  • BeekmeerBeekmeer Joined: Posts: 24
    delete_me wrote: »
    Beekmeer wrote: »
    Genistar wrote: »
    If you really want to be vskill happy with kolin's vskill, at least cover it with hailstorm.

    This felt so good when I did it:
    giphy.gif

    Ended up losing the match though, cause I'm still trash with Kolin.

    In that scenario in particular V-Skill isn't a good option since you were expecting Flash Kick anyway (it's his only projectile invincible move). So going either for another counter or just waiting and punishing it is a better choice there if you have the read already. Punish combo into CA would almost have killed him there.

    Good point. I'm so out of practice with Kolin that whenever I switch to her I find that I've completely forgotten how to use her. I'm not real great at switching between characters so half the time I'll even end a block-string with a random counter since it's the same motion as Laura's thunderclap.

    And even if it ended up being the wrong choice I do still love watching that ice ball bop Guile on the head.

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