The Sonic the hedgehog thread V.7 2017 Sonic Mania Out Now!!!!!!!

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  • X_SwordX_Sword -+FGs, Art, and Beats+- Joined: Posts: 1,775
    I am SO glad I didn't watch the opening cut scene when SEGA released it on YouTube. That thing is a animation porn.

    I was bit annoyed at first with all the returning zones but Act 2 of Green Hill and Chemical Plant had enough differences to where they felt like new territory. The boss of Chemical Plant Act 2 was great and really makes me glad I got familiar with
    Puyo Puyo via Puyo Puyo Tetris

    I didn't check out the special stages on YouTube (avoided spoilers all around) so playing them in game was my first time really seeing them. Nice to see the half pipe is not here. That thing got used way too much. True, it's the UFO stage again but I'm just glad the team didn't resort to that freaking half pipe.

    Also, this game looks clean AF!

    I'm on the Chemical Plant boss right now and my god I damn near cried of joy for the attention to detail on it. Very unexpected, yet nice attention to detail regarding classic Sonic.
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  • IdunoIduno ...what to put here Joined: Posts: 5,296
    Just gone through zones 2 and 3 on my lunch.

    This is it, this is the Sonic I've been waiting for ever since the greatness of S3&K was followed up with the dissapointment of Sonic 3D.

    Sonic is back and I hope like hell Sega doesn't treat this as a 1 off thing, it's too good to stop here.
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  • SonichumanSonichuman You're too sloooww!! Joined: Posts: 18,930
    Im really liking what they did to Sky Battery. Just everything about it really.

    You can lose track of time so easily in these stages when you are trying to explore and look for bonus stages.
  • Dangerous JDangerous J Clinicals now!! Joined: Posts: 9,947 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    So the consensus is Sonic Mania is awesome on all fronts?
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  • King9999King9999 Joined: Posts: 10,904 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Haha, love the Chemical Plant Zone act 2 boss.
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  • dialupsuckydialupsucky FINAL SHOWDOWN Joined: Posts: 2,709 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    So the consensus is Sonic Mania is awesome on all fronts?

    well im not as horny about it as everyone else seems to be. Probably better than 1 and CD of course but thats not saying much imo. Id say its around sonic 2 level in terms of how good it is. Not as good as S3K. Honestly im super disappointed with the game. It lacks the charm of S3K with a lot of the little things that game has, instead of where the little things in this game, are not charming, but rather novelty-ish and neat for 5 seconds then its like ok well, im over it now.

    Im not sure as to why people are so horny about the music either, when most the music is old, and I wouldnt consider the remixes better than the originals or better than any of the best remixes. So again its ok but disappointing. Dont feel like any of the new songs were that hummable off hand.

    The extras in the game are down right fucking awful for what you have to do though. Definitely not a big enough reward for what it is you do.




    Honestly seeing the reviews I can only assume people are like its 20 bucks, and sonic fans want to relive the old days so bad thats why people are horny about it
  • affinityaffinity Joined: Posts: 2,729
    Xenoverse 2 comes out, Dragon Ball critics underrate it and complain "it's more of the same".

    Sonic Mania comes out, Sonic fanatics praise it, even when it's generally regurgitated old content, reused music, ancient gameplay, no new Super forms, with no new playable characters, missing favorites,
    not even Knuckles Chaotix tier of creativity overall.

    even though it has its own issues, Sonic Forces deserves more hype and sales than Mania.
  • ExposedDExposedD NO SQUIGGERINO Joined: Posts: 6,393
    chadouken! wrote: »
    What do you mean when you say over and over again that people are horny for this game? Like... they want to fuck Sonic in his hedgehole or something? That's weird, man.

    A quote for the ages. Truly.
    affinity wrote: »
    I mean, you can't even play as a cat in that game. wtf. it's 2017.
    chadouken! wrote: »
    It's called Sonic the Fucking Hedgehog, not Sonic the Cat, you dumb bitch.
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  • Darklightjg1Darklightjg1 Dr. SuessLight Joined: Posts: 3,748
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    I'm looking forward to getting home and playing some more of it. I played through four zones so far, but in Green Hill when I noticed the checkpoint you pass resets when you hit another checkpoint (there are two very close to each other), I ended up spending A LOT of time playing the blue sphere stages.

    I don't particularly like blue sphere either, I just wanted to see how many different stages they bothered to add in (which turns out to be a lot). Not sure if it's the same amount as when you lock on a non-Sonic 2 or 3 cartridge with S&K, but it sure felt like it. I also don't know if it's even worth it to complete all the blue sphere stages.

    -I like the game so far. The level design gives you a shit ton of routes and things to explore for replay value and very fun stage gimmicks. But I'm not a fan of the special stage format. It's similar to the Sonic CD special stages, which I was bad at and found to be the most frustrating special stages out of all the Sonic games imo. These aren't quite as frustrating, but still more annoying to control than the other special stages.

    On Unlocks:
    I did unlock the Super Peel Out, Insta-shield and S&K mode, but it can only be used in the 'No Save' mode which is a bummer. Also you can only replace the drop dash with one of these two moves.
    I was kind of hoping for an OD combination of all three moves that I can use whenever I want.
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  • SonichumanSonichuman You're too sloooww!! Joined: Posts: 18,930
    I'm looking forward to getting home and playing some more of it. I played through four zones so far, but in Green Hill when I noticed the checkpoint you pass resets when you hit another checkpoint (there are two very close to each other), I ended up spending A LOT of time playing the blue sphere stages.

    I don't particularly like blue sphere either, I just wanted to see how many they different stages bothered to add in (which turns out to be a lot). Not sure if it's the same amount as when you lock on a non-Sonic 2 or 3 cartridge with S&K, but it sure felt like it. I also don't know if it's even worth it to complete all the blue sphere stages.

    -I like the game so far. The level design gives you a shit ton of routes and things to explore for replay value and very fun stage gimmicks. But I'm not a fan of the special stage format. It's similar to the Sonic CD special stages, which I was bad at and found to be the most frustrating special stages out of all the Sonic games imo. These aren't quite as frustrating, but still more annoying to control than the other special stages.

    On Unlocks:
    I did unlock the Super Peel Out, Insta-shield and S&K mode, but it can only be used in the 'No Save' mode which is a bummer. Also you can only replace the drop dash with one of these two moves.
    I was kind of hoping for an OD combination of all three moves that I can use whenever I want.

    It coukd have been done honestly. Tap for insta shield, hold for drop dash and then just hold up and press for peelout.
  • truendymiontruendymion Beer Me! Joined: Posts: 2,227
    Sonic Mania 2 suggestions in no particular order:
    • Increase acceleration a bit, more so for Sonic. This would be a controversial change for sure but it might make the game a bit more palatable for new players…
    • Adjust sonics dropdash. The drop dash is a bit too weak as a special ability and has little utility outside of speedruns. Why not buff it? Make the dropdash have a faster initial speed boost? Have a trail of fire behind to make it more obvious something special is happening. Maybe there are special ramps that only Sonic can jump across with the dropdash...
    • Air-bubbles in underwater sections should spawn rapidly. You shouldn’t have to wait around for them to spawn.
    • Buff shield abilities:
      -Classic Shield - can absorb multiple hits, maybe 4? Maybe unflinchable too...
      -Lightning - Unlimited jumps? Basically, a better version of Tails fly since you aren’t vulnerable from below.
      -Flame - Double tap and hold to fire dash continuously. A better version of Knuckles glide since it goes in a straight line until you hit a wall.
      -Water - Bounce creates a big splash that hits on both sides. Or something.
      -[New Shield] Ghost - teleports player in any desired direction, can pass through certain walls/barriers.
    • Allow tails and knuckles to use shield abilities
    • Add new partner abilities (activate by pressing a button):
      -Tails - The classic flight assist.
      -Knuckles - Grabs partner and chucks them like a football. You can choose which direction he throws you.
      -Sonic - Grabs partner, does a peel out and then releases partner at full speed.
    • Put some warning signs ahead of hazards, especially in a high-speed section. In general, more telegraphing wouldn't hurt…
    • Maybe even pull out the camera the faster you go…
    • An optional “Noob” mode where there are no extra lives and you can continue from checkpoints indefinitely. Of course, keep the classic restart system and the “no save” option. Maybe noob mode can't unlock the good ending or something...
    • Add a 4th character (I vote for Mighty)
    • 4 player Online multiplayer co-op and head2head modes.
  • HawkingbirdHawkingbird I am thou...thou art I Joined: Posts: 26,292
    The only thing I want for a sequel is more original zones. The original zones were all great and ooze creativity. Press Garden is my favorite of the new zones.
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  • DarksakulDarksakul Your lack of faith disturbs me Joined: Posts: 23,380
    Sonic Mania 2 suggestions in no particular order:

    ~Snip~

    Add a 4th character (I vote for Mighty

    Mighty is the one character I would respect as a 4th Choice.

    Shadow is literately a Fan Character that was adopted by Sega. So No.

    Vector was supposed to be appearing in Sonic 1 as a character on the Sound Test Screen but he got cut and got revived in Knuckles Chaos
    He okay but there are better choices

    The few games Amy appears in she handles differently then any Sonic character and so it's a break in the uniformity how every character plays

    Cream No. Nothing against Cream but she offers nothing to the table game play wise, not even if she paired with her Chao pal Cheese.

    No Blaze the Cat, Fat the Cat, Rouge the Bat, or any extra characters from the Adventures/ X games.

    Nothing from Sonic SatAM, for Dear God No. There nothing here I want to see in a actual game. Thank you Archie Comics and good radiance.


    Mighty is a respectable character, he didn't appear in much but when he did appear he played his role well.
    And Mighty is different enough to stand out from the Cast of Sonic, Knuckles and Tails but he similar enough to fit in the dynamic. He is a Armadillo so he a different species and thus can be given different attributes, as Sonic Tails & Knuckles all have their own attributes and abilities. I would make Mighty the Defense character the way Knuckles is Offense (Tails is mobility, Sonic is speed).
    Also Out of all the characters choices Mighty is the only extra character that appears in a Genesis era game.
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  • affinityaffinity Joined: Posts: 2,729
    Sonic Mania 2 suggestions in no particular order:
      -Tails - The classic flight assist.

    Whaaaat? Mania doesn't even have THAT??!! which S3 introduced since back in the 90's?

    Sonic Mania: 1/10

    I mean, you can't even play as a cat in that game. wtf. it's 2017.
  • SonichumanSonichuman You're too sloooww!! Joined: Posts: 18,930
    ^ Yeah ok you're definitely not real.

    Sonic Mania 2 suggestions in no particular order:
    • Increase acceleration a bit, more so for Sonic. This would be a controversial change for sure but it might make the game a bit more palatable for new players…
    • Adjust sonics dropdash. The drop dash is a bit too weak as a special ability and has little utility outside of speedruns. Why not buff it? Make the dropdash have a faster initial speed boost? Have a trail of fire behind to make it more obvious something special is happening. Maybe there are special ramps that only Sonic can jump across with the dropdash...
    • Air-bubbles in underwater sections should spawn rapidly. You shouldn’t have to wait around for them to spawn.
    • Buff shield abilities:
      -Classic Shield - can absorb multiple hits, maybe 4? Maybe unflinchable too...
      -Lightning - Unlimited jumps? Basically, a better version of Tails fly since you aren’t vulnerable from below.
      -Flame - Double tap and hold to fire dash continuously. A better version of Knuckles glide since it goes in a straight line until you hit a wall.
      -Water - Bounce creates a big splash that hits on both sides. Or something.
      -[New Shield] Ghost - teleports player in any desired direction, can pass through certain walls/barriers.
    • Allow tails and knuckles to use shield abilities
    • Add new partner abilities (activate by pressing a button):
      -Tails - The classic flight assist.
      -Knuckles - Grabs partner and chucks them like a football. You can choose which direction he throws you.
      -Sonic - Grabs partner, does a peel out and then releases partner at full speed.
    • Put some warning signs ahead of hazards, especially in a high-speed section. In general, more telegraphing wouldn't hurt…
    • Maybe even pull out the camera the faster you go…
    • An optional “Noob” mode where there are no extra lives and you can continue from checkpoints indefinitely. Of course, keep the classic restart system and the “no save” option. Maybe noob mode can't unlock the good ending or something...
    • Add a 4th character (I vote for Mighty)
    • 4 player Online multiplayer co-op and head2head modes.


    We really don't need hazards pointed out. If they put it in for those people who need it I'd prefer it as toggleable option. Shield absorbing multiple hits is overkill, you want that and the ability to not die so long as you hold on to one ring?

    Darksakul wrote: »
    Sonic Mania 2 suggestions in no particular order:

    ~Snip~

    Add a 4th character (I vote for Mighty

    Mighty is the one character I would respect as a 4th Choice.

    Shadow is literately a Fan Character that was adopted by Sega. So No.


    What?
  • HawkingbirdHawkingbird I am thou...thou art I Joined: Posts: 26,292
    affinity wrote: »
    Sonic Mania 2 suggestions in no particular order:
      -Tails - The classic flight assist.

    Whaaaat? Mania doesn't even have THAT??!! which S3 introduced since back in the 90's?

    Sonic Mania: 1/10

    I mean, you can't even play as a cat in that game. wtf. it's 2017.

    It's in the game. It can only be done in co-op.
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  • IdunoIduno ...what to put here Joined: Posts: 5,296
    Sonic Mania 2 suggestions in no particular order:
    • Increase acceleration a bit, more so for Sonic. This would be a controversial change for sure but it might make the game a bit more palatable for new players…
    • Adjust sonics dropdash. The drop dash is a bit too weak as a special ability and has little utility outside of speedruns. Why not buff it? Make the dropdash have a faster initial speed boost? Have a trail of fire behind to make it more obvious something special is happening. Maybe there are special ramps that only Sonic can jump across with the dropdash...
    • Air-bubbles in underwater sections should spawn rapidly. You shouldn’t have to wait around for them to spawn.
    • Buff shield abilities:
      -Classic Shield - can absorb multiple hits, maybe 4? Maybe unflinchable too...
      -Lightning - Unlimited jumps? Basically, a better version of Tails fly since you aren’t vulnerable from below.
      -Flame - Double tap and hold to fire dash continuously. A better version of Knuckles glide since it goes in a straight line until you hit a wall.
      -Water - Bounce creates a big splash that hits on both sides. Or something.
      -[New Shield] Ghost - teleports player in any desired direction, can pass through certain walls/barriers.
    • Allow tails and knuckles to use shield abilities
    • Add new partner abilities (activate by pressing a button):
      -Tails - The classic flight assist.
      -Knuckles - Grabs partner and chucks them like a football. You can choose which direction he throws you.
      -Sonic - Grabs partner, does a peel out and then releases partner at full speed.
    • Put some warning signs ahead of hazards, especially in a high-speed section. In general, more telegraphing wouldn't hurt…
    • Maybe even pull out the camera the faster you go…
    • An optional “Noob” mode where there are no extra lives and you can continue from checkpoints indefinitely. Of course, keep the classic restart system and the “no save” option. Maybe noob mode can't unlock the good ending or something...
    • Add a 4th character (I vote for Mighty)
    • 4 player Online multiplayer co-op and head2head modes.

    I seriously can't tell if this is a troll list or not, Sonic games are easy enough for most of us who played the megadrive ones to have completed before we were even 10, most of these would make the game a freaking joke.

    I do have one change I'd make though.

    - Going off the side of the screen after beating act 1 of the water level doesn't freeze the game and force you to exit it and start the level again.

    How that passed testing I'll never know, just on my 3rd run though now, had to be the goddamn water level the game glitched on didn't it.
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  • po pimpuspo pimpus Let's Hit the Climax! Joined: Posts: 25,782
    po pimpus wrote: »
    Does anyone else just scroll past Darksakul and Affinity posts like I do?
    chadouken! wrote: »
    affinity wrote: »
    I mean, you can't even play as a cat in that game. wtf. it's 2017.
    It's called Sonic the Fucking Hedgehog, not Sonic the Cat, you dumb bitch.

    I guess not.

    You should try it though. Much less stressful.
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  • HecatomHecatom Aka Black Gorilla (・Д・)ノ Joined: Posts: 23,331
    chadouken! wrote: »
    affinity wrote: »
    I mean, you can't even play as a cat in that game. wtf. it's 2017.
    It's called Sonic the Fucking Hedgehog, not Sonic the Cat, you dumb bitch.

    She is salty that SonicMania isn't BubsyMania

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  • DarksakulDarksakul Your lack of faith disturbs me Joined: Posts: 23,380
    po pimpus wrote: »
    Does anyone else just scroll past Darksakul and Affinity posts like I do?

    Po you shouldn't be talking.
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  • HawkingbirdHawkingbird I am thou...thou art I Joined: Posts: 26,292
    It sucks Mania doesn't have a level select after clearing it. I want to want to play levels I haven't found the special rings.
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  • GasarakiGasaraki Joined: Posts: 8,782 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Uh, guys, Sonic CAN get a lift from tails, IN single player. While standing still, just hold up and press jump, then press it again and that'll make Tails start to fly. Jump into him and once you latch on you can control Tails just like you would normally.

    Btw, Blue Sphere bonus stage completion goes towards unlocking extras like sound test and some other minigame stuff

    Spoiler for what unlocks
    right now I have sound test, puyo puyo as a separate game mode, and apparently once you finish all of them you unlock Blue Sphere as a game mode lol. I don't know what happens if you get all gold medals though,
    still working on that, but I'm halfway there
  • DarksakulDarksakul Your lack of faith disturbs me Joined: Posts: 23,380
    Steam has Sonic Mania at 10% off
    Offer ends August 29

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  • SonichumanSonichuman You're too sloooww!! Joined: Posts: 18,930
    Heads up regarding using tails to fly while using sonic. If you are trying to use Tails and you have a Fire Shield then you WILL jettison yourself in the process so be wary about that.
  • ZazzariusZazzarius Shaaaaaaaa! Joined: Posts: 2,307 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    It sucks Mania doesn't have a level select after clearing it. I want to want to play levels I haven't found the special rings.
    I'm currently doing my play through and this makes me sad. The level select was my favorite part of S3&K.

    Also I was doing the blue sphere stages and I don't know if its:
    1. the game is faster
    2. my aging more than 2 decades since S3&K
    3. maybe just playing on a modern TV with input lag (and not a CRT like in the old days)

    but I'm doing WAY worse than I remember back on the genesis.
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  • DarksakulDarksakul Your lack of faith disturbs me Joined: Posts: 23,380
    Zazzarius wrote: »
    2. my aging more than 2 decades since S3&K

    This does play a huge factor.
    It's why the retirement age of professional esport players tend to be 29 to 30 years of age.
    You tend to lose that ability to get timing down first, especially if you are out of practice.
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  • GasarakiGasaraki Joined: Posts: 8,782 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    @Zazzarius @Hawkingbird

    Mania DOES have level select after clearing the game once
  • HawkingbirdHawkingbird I am thou...thou art I Joined: Posts: 26,292
    Gasaraki wrote: »
    @Zazzarius @Hawkingbird

    Mania DOES have level select after clearing the game once

    I found it. Fuck, I was expecting a separate menu like in the old games.
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  • FoolinfectionFoolinfection Big fish in a little pond 4 LIFE Joined: Posts: 2,207
    After playing sonic 1-3K all week to prepare for this game, I realized that it definitely needs to be played on a low latency screen. Going from my megadrive on a crt to my ps4 on a hdtv is really fucking with me. Can't turn worth a fuck in blue sphere. Lol
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  • ZazzariusZazzarius Shaaaaaaaa! Joined: Posts: 2,307 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Gasaraki wrote: »
    Mania DOES have level select after clearing the game once

    Oh. That's good to hear. I'm only at Hydrocity currently.

    Also, the remixes of the Flying Battery themes are wonderful.
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    with barest wrists and stoutest boasts,
    he thrusts his fists against the posts,
    and still insists he sees the ghosts."