New Sega Saturn USB controller

C-SwordC-Sword Joined: Posts: 763
From Retro-Bit and officially licensed by Sega. Retro-Bit made some really bad knock-offs in the past, but the quality of their products has improved a lot recently, I bought the Street Fighter Dual Link controller and the d-pad was great.



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  • kikimaru024kikimaru024 Mid-tier scrub Joined: Posts: 1,703
    Seimitsu & K-sticks > Sanwa JLF.
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  • DarksakulDarksakul I find your lack of Faith Disturbing. Joined: Posts: 24,683
    edited January 10
    C-Sword wrote: »
    From Retro-Bit and officially licensed by Sega. Retro-Bit made some really bad knock-offs in the past, but the quality of their products has improved a lot recently, I bought the Street Fighter Dual Link controller and the d-pad was great.



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    If they make a dongle for the Sega Genesis with this pad, wow oh man would I snatch this up with a quickness
    Maybe I should wait till the end of the video. :lol:

    Sad thing is, for Retrobit's Brawler's Pac SNES cart, I already own 3 out of the 4 games on that cart.
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  • dialupsuckydialupsucky FINAL SHOWDOWN Joined: Posts: 2,946 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    You have my interest, but did I miss it? Wheres the price? When does it come out? I checked the site and im getting nothing. Thanks
  • DarksakulDarksakul I find your lack of Faith Disturbing. Joined: Posts: 24,683
    You have my interest, but did I miss it? Wheres the price? When does it come out? I checked the site and im getting nothing. Thanks

    They just show cased this at CES, so it can be weeks to months down the line.
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  • bigbadboazbigbadboaz Joined: Posts: 62
    Yeah, I was disappointed to hear Sega signed a deal with this particular company, but good to hear they may have already been improving their stuff. I was hopeful that the rise of 8bitdo would push these other guys to step up. When it comes to the first official Saturn pads in a long time, getting it right is important.

    BTW, fitting if this is one of the last pieces of news that should get posted to Tech Talk. I was here for the 2008 frenzy when the warehouse batch of SLS pads went up on eBay for under $20 each. Fond memories and thankfulness.. I've still got my four.
  • jopamojopamo Stuck in Silly-con Valley Joined: Posts: 1,369
    I scoped that mist gray Japanese Saturn pad box, but saw only one with a cable at the top. If Retro-bit is only making black pads with Bluetooth, I'm going to be sad.
  • electricgraveelectricgrave KOBURAH!!! Joined: Posts: 57
    These are going to be nice, I want a pair yesterday, it will feel so boss like back in the day those Disney shows hosted by "Skippy" from family ties, he would show the prizes, them AKKLAIM wireless pads for NES and Genesis, always wanted a pair of those. Big Blue monster pads, they were also giving away X-Men for NES...lol what a horrible game!

    Years later ebay had one guy selling infra red ones 1st party for obscene prices, I never bothered. I did ended up with a couple Saturn USB white pads, they work real well, pretty much on par with a model2 pad. Someone told me Sega licensed this? That they are made with Sega parts and just a way of liquidating inventory at the time? THe box looks so bootleg that I doubt it, but hey, you never know.

    8Bitdo does a good job on the Bluetooth SNES pads, they feel pretty much up to par with the standard pads. They also work on the switch and the mini SNES, I was tempted to hack one for a stick but I got enough projects on the back burner as it is.

  • jopamojopamo Stuck in Silly-con Valley Joined: Posts: 1,369
    I’ve tried the IR pads. Unless you’re at-or-close-to line of sight, they suck BIG TIME. I’d take Bluetooth over that any day for sure—even if they’re black.
  • C-SwordC-Sword Joined: Posts: 763
    edited January 12
    Problem with 8bitdo is they make unlicensed products, Retro-Bit used to do the same, but they seem to be willing spend money to get licenses now.

  • AlkipotAlkipot Mayoral Upper! Joined: Posts: 2,123
    I would love to see this for a PS4.
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  • DarksakulDarksakul I find your lack of Faith Disturbing. Joined: Posts: 24,683
    C-Sword wrote: »
    Problem with 8bitdo is they make unlicensed products, Retro-Bit used to do the same, but they seem to be willing spend money to get licenses now.

    What's to license? The hardware patents to the NES and SNES expired many, many years ago and at this point the SNES pad shape is considered generic in shape for 2018.
    As long as 8Bitdo isn't infringing on trademark, there nothing Nintendo can do ether way.

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  • C-SwordC-Sword Joined: Posts: 763
    Darksakul wrote: »
    C-Sword wrote: »
    Problem with 8bitdo is they make unlicensed products, Retro-Bit used to do the same, but they seem to be willing spend money to get licenses now.

    What's to license? The hardware patents to the NES and SNES expired many, many years ago and at this point the SNES pad shape is considered generic in shape for 2018.
    As long as 8Bitdo isn't infringing on trademark, there nothing Nintendo can do ether way.

    I wasn't really talking about the patents for the controller designs, but the fact that they make their controllers compatible with the Switch without a license

  • DarksakulDarksakul I find your lack of Faith Disturbing. Joined: Posts: 24,683
    C-Sword wrote: »
    Darksakul wrote: »
    C-Sword wrote: »
    Problem with 8bitdo is they make unlicensed products, Retro-Bit used to do the same, but they seem to be willing spend money to get licenses now.

    What's to license? The hardware patents to the NES and SNES expired many, many years ago and at this point the SNES pad shape is considered generic in shape for 2018.
    As long as 8Bitdo isn't infringing on trademark, there nothing Nintendo can do ether way.

    I wasn't really talking about the patents for the controller designs, but the fact that they make their controllers compatible with the Switch without a license

    So? Its the same with Brook.
    And the community is in love with brook.
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  • RiderkickerRiderkicker Joined: Posts: 166
    I wonder if these controllers will connect with the Switch.
  • bigbadboazbigbadboaz Joined: Posts: 62
    I'd guess they have every reason to follow 8bitdo's example on that.
  • C-SwordC-Sword Joined: Posts: 763
    Closer look

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  • bigbadboazbigbadboaz Joined: Posts: 62
    The finish looks kind of melty/rubbery..
  • jopamojopamo Stuck in Silly-con Valley Joined: Posts: 1,369
    As long as it also comes in white it could literally be melting.
  • DarksakulDarksakul I find your lack of Faith Disturbing. Joined: Posts: 24,683
    They are most likely cheap, quick one-time made mock-ups made just for display at the trade show.
    Making a quick model or mock up just for display is really common for tradeshows.

    If they had a working model, it probability have kynar wire and hotglue everywhere as its a quick and dirty mod rather than a final manufactured product.

    By the time of their Tradeshow tour they probability be beat up to hell and
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  • jopamojopamo Stuck in Silly-con Valley Joined: Posts: 1,369
    Yup, that’s just a molded chunk of plastic. If it was anything more, press would have buzzed more about it. The media coverage on this whole line of products has been kinda lackluster TBH.
  • DarksakulDarksakul I find your lack of Faith Disturbing. Joined: Posts: 24,683
    edited January 16
    jopamo wrote: »
    Yup, that’s just a molded chunk of plastic. If it was anything more, press would have buzzed more about it. The media coverage on this whole line of products has been kinda lackluster TBH.

    CES is a pretty big trade show, with all the Lobby spaces, meeting rooms and even a huge number of regular hotel rooms all used up for Show Floor.
    Some of the CES PC parts coverage you see are all held in Hotel suites

    At this point Retrobit is swallowed up by everything else, from Concept cars to a metric fuck ton of RGB Lights Everything
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  • jopamojopamo Stuck in Silly-con Valley Joined: Posts: 1,369
    It’s been gigantic for a long time now. Aside from this year, I was there for Logitech the last 5. Humorously it has been presenting in smaller and more remote spaces each successive year LOL.
  • DarksakulDarksakul I find your lack of Faith Disturbing. Joined: Posts: 24,683
    jopamo wrote: »
    It’s been gigantic for a long time now. Aside from this year, I was there for Logitech the last 5. Humorously it has been presenting in smaller and more remote spaces each successive year LOL.

    Probability because the hotels all charge ridiculous extortionary prices to trade shows and conventions.
    Especially in Vegas.

    Logitech probability haven't upped it's budget, hence why they are getting smaller and smaller spaces.
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  • C-SwordC-Sword Joined: Posts: 763
    I think the wired one will look closer to the original, the original shell wasn't that great though, especially the black one, we could see all the fingerprints and scratches.

    If only they could make a blue one...

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  • d3vd3v Coughing DAT PINK SPIT Joined: Posts: 37,273 mod
    edited January 16
    C-Sword wrote: »
    Take note that this is only for the wireless version. There's also a wired version coming out.

    The dongle is there so that you can plug it to your original Saturn.
    You have my interest, but did I miss it? Wheres the price? When does it come out? I checked the site and im getting nothing. Thanks

    They haven't announced these yet.

  • electricgraveelectricgrave KOBURAH!!! Joined: Posts: 57
    edited January 16
    Hey C-Sword, have you seen the AU pads? They look weird and awesome all at once.

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  • bigbadboazbigbadboaz Joined: Posts: 62
    I remember those, but somehow have never read any opinions on them despite all the talk of various versions. How are they?
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