Drawing/Sketching fundementals thread

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  • AriesWarlockAriesWarlock Joined: Posts: 3,672
    It looks great. But over $3,000?? Damn!!
    "Umvc3 is a 2 player game the same way Super Mario Bros. was on NES. You gotta wait for someone to die before the other has a chance to play"
  • FreezingCicadaFreezingCicada Joined: Posts: 638
    A good drawing tablet is worth the price. But I'll stick to Wacom Cintiq. Idc if its over priced, works great and still enjoy having my own PC incase I need to upgrade parts or do other things on it.

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjb-oBKXwCu9pmObxwKe__Q/videos
    Good channel for anime drawers.
    I dont speak korean or anything but its still great content.
  • AriesWarlockAriesWarlock Joined: Posts: 3,672
    Here's some tutorials for you all

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    "Umvc3 is a 2 player game the same way Super Mario Bros. was on NES. You gotta wait for someone to die before the other has a chance to play"
  • abkalldayabkallday Joined: Posts: 2,222
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    Rouge from X-men
    Psn:Genocidecu
    UMVC3:Dante/X-23/Magneto Tekken Tag Tournament 2 Lars/Nina USF4:Guy/Juri/Adon/Rufus
    GGPO:genocide_cuttah KOF 2002 Shermie/K/Kula Kof 98: Iroi/Robert/Saisyu/Kyo Garou: Kim Dong Hwan and Gato
  • Sexperienced.Sexperienced. kdh Joined: Posts: 5,353
    edited January 6
    I don't know if I've posted this already but I'll post it anyway. More concept/art fundemental's type Instagram pages.

    https://www.instagram.com/kimjunggius/

    Kim Jung has insane art skills. He literally draws everything from memory and directly in ink without prepping. He's also a master of perspectives.

    Also check out Kekai Kotaki.

    http://www.kekaiart.com/

    https://www.instagram.com/kekai_kotaki/?hl=en

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  • StockyJamStockyJam beat me like the bitch that i am Joined: Posts: 6,055
    KJG is a wizard.
  • Sexperienced.Sexperienced. kdh Joined: Posts: 5,353
    By the way, how is the life drawing going for everyone?
  • PozerWolfPozerWolf Gummies, yum! ;o Joined: Posts: 8,397 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Damn, SRK forum here is closing up.
    Honestly, I was hoping to use this place to post up my animations as to look back at my work. Sad mode.
    I guess I'll post my last assignment here and hope everyone luck on their journey.

    Kind of sucks but alas, guess all things come to an end. Funny enough, this forum helped me get into drawing due to an "what I wanted to do with my life" thread a while back.
    By the way, how is the life drawing going for everyone?

    Per tea good.
    My animations are getting more attention than I thought. Once I'm done with class (September 2018), I'll try my luck and apply for animation work. Apparently I already have what it takes, but I still feel I need to learn a bit more before I venture forth.
    All I do is draw naked birds all day.
    Twitter; PozerWolf
  • Sexperienced.Sexperienced. kdh Joined: Posts: 5,353
    Closing up? Has there been an announcement that I didn't know about?
  • StockyJamStockyJam beat me like the bitch that i am Joined: Posts: 6,055
    Closing up? Has there been an announcement that I didn't know about?

    yup. check the gd thread on the very top.

    um.

    i'll say one thing before i go.
    thanks for any info ive gained from the thread. and...i hope you all keep up on the artwork. including the none pro folks.
    lastly.
    one last tip of advice to everyone.
    remember to draw with your elbow, not your wrist. you'll have a tendency to draw with a wrist especially on tablets or screens.
    draw by keeping your wrist and hands still and letting your elbow and shoulder do all of the motions. it makes your precision far better.

    later yall.
  • Sexperienced.Sexperienced. kdh Joined: Posts: 5,353
    edited January 9
    Man, I had even more info to post up here. I've been talking to a number of Marvel/DC artist on facebook and I wanted to post the advice they gave me. I've also bought quite a few books that I couldn't download for free. I was planning on scanning the pages and uploading it here. I was only taking my time because I didn't expect this site to shut anytime soon.

    I pretty much have all the advice and knowledge that I didn't have when I first started this thread.

    Pozerwolf, well-done on taking that animation course because the best concept and comic book artists all have animation backgrounds. Sara Picelli is just one that comes to mind, she told me that the best way to improve is to constantly draw from life.
  • KlivesKlives Joined: Posts: 110
    SRK is closing at the end of the month if i'm not mistaken. You still have some time left to post the advice you got from these artists.
  • Sexperienced.Sexperienced. kdh Joined: Posts: 5,353
    OK, I'll do it within 3 days. I'm being extremely lazy right now.
  • AriesWarlockAriesWarlock Joined: Posts: 3,672
    they are making a new one

    http://shoryuken.net/

    someone make this thread over there when the new forum opens up.
    "Umvc3 is a 2 player game the same way Super Mario Bros. was on NES. You gotta wait for someone to die before the other has a chance to play"
  • DramatixDramatix Could be better. Joined: Posts: 4,607
    Where did you learn how to draw full body sketches and clothes/clothing details (eg: starting with shapes)? I have some old worksheets on tutorials doing so, but I want to know if anyone knew of some sites that teach such. I'm trying to force myself to draw enamel pin and costume designs for future cons.
    "Everyone in here has had someone who tried to convince them that they were sexually harassed, and you did not believe them because they were not cute."
  • Axl_m4sterAxl_m4ster 623+P brings people together Joined: Posts: 2,435
    mmmm






    hope this helps.
    LOGIC AND REASON ARE OVERRATED VIRTUES.
  • Sexperienced.Sexperienced. kdh Joined: Posts: 5,353
    edited January 12
    AriesWarlock, I'll do it as soon as it's up.
    Dramatix wrote: »
    Where did you learn how to draw full body sketches and clothes/clothing details (eg: starting with shapes)? I have some old worksheets on tutorials doing so, but I want to know if anyone knew of some sites that teach such. I'm trying to force myself to draw enamel pin and costume designs for future cons.

    Yes, check out Will Weston. He's the first person to come to mind. I'll link other artist and tutorials later.

    https://www.instagram.com/willwestonstudio/


    Check his insta page for descriptions for each image.


















































































































































    I'm considering taking an online course with Art centre. It's expensive but possibly worth it, and if I do I'll post all of their notes and my work.
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  • PozerWolfPozerWolf Gummies, yum! ;o Joined: Posts: 8,397 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    that gesture work reminds me heavily of Karl Gnass
    All I do is draw naked birds all day.
    Twitter; PozerWolf
  • StockyJamStockyJam beat me like the bitch that i am Joined: Posts: 6,055
    edited January 11
    nice work Citrus.

    um. @Sexperienced. could you do us the favor of spoilering most of the artwork you posted? cuz its making this page load slow as snails man.
    most not all.

    i also download inkscape art app last night. its a free vector based art app. have no opiion on it since i barely used it. but if you want a free vector art app...theres inkscape and vectr
  • DramatixDramatix Could be better. Joined: Posts: 4,607
    Thanks @Axl_m4ster and @Sexperienced. Bookmarking the links.
    "Everyone in here has had someone who tried to convince them that they were sexually harassed, and you did not believe them because they were not cute."
  • Sexperienced.Sexperienced. kdh Joined: Posts: 5,353
    edited January 12
    StockyJam, I've added spoiler links... I'm experiencing it too, but do the spoiler tags make any difference to the speed of the page. Maybe I should only leave the link to his insta page. You can view all the images there instead.
    Post edited by Sexperienced. on
  • StockyJamStockyJam beat me like the bitch that i am Joined: Posts: 6,055
    yea it loads faster now.
  • StockyJamStockyJam beat me like the bitch that i am Joined: Posts: 6,055
    i'll be adding some drawings in the near future. btw. haven decided what medium to use yet
  • Sexperienced.Sexperienced. kdh Joined: Posts: 5,353
    edited January 12
    The intention of this thread was to cover everything anyone needed to know when drawing the human body accurately in different poses and perspectives especially from memory whether nude, semi nude or fully dressed. When you've mastered the fundementals using traditional mediums everything else comes easily. I know I was strict at that start but I'd still highly recommend drawing with pencils, black ink or pen or painting in grey-scale first, until you feel you've mastered the fundamentals.

    I was also going to introduce some really simple drawing exercises that cover everything you need to know. So if you're having a hard time deciding what to draw I'd suggest doing these exercises instead but I'd highly recommend doing drawing exercises even if you know what to draw.

    The exercises cover drawing perfect straight lines and circles/ellipses from different perspectives and angles. Drawing boxes and other geometric shapes in perspective and combining these shapes to make other shapes. Shading techniques and understanding light sources. Accurately constructing the male and female body with basic shapes and drawing it to scale.

    Before this I'll explain 1, 2, 3 point perspectives, horizon lines and vanishing points. Rotating forms and camera lenses.

    I'll also cover human anatomy and how to figure draw.

    I might set some homework if anyone's interested which will be to illustrate a short story or situation in comic book form. We'll all decide what this story or situation will be. It will be interesting to see how we all individually illustrate the same same story.
  • Raij1nRaij1n Joined: Posts: 1,211
    That sounds rad. I've been trying to get my chops up lately. I'm in.
  • PozerWolfPozerWolf Gummies, yum! ;o Joined: Posts: 8,397 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    edited January 12
    Another assignment
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    I fucked up on the form towards the end as I accidentally made the broom stick smaller.
    Easy fix, but got lazy. FUDGE IT!!

    Otherwise, that per tea much ends my assignment postings here since SRK forums are closing shop.
    All I do is draw naked birds all day.
    Twitter; PozerWolf
  • Sexperienced.Sexperienced. kdh Joined: Posts: 5,353
    Regarding the forum closing the latest update on that is they've found an extremely cheap hosting site. They've knocked down the current hosting price from over $2000 a month to just $120.
  • PozerWolfPozerWolf Gummies, yum! ;o Joined: Posts: 8,397 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Oh? So there's hope :O
    All I do is draw naked birds all day.
    Twitter; PozerWolf
  • StockyJamStockyJam beat me like the bitch that i am Joined: Posts: 6,055
    forums arent closing man. owners of srk are switching from vanilla forum to discourse.
  • StockyJamStockyJam beat me like the bitch that i am Joined: Posts: 6,055
    edited January 12
    @PozerWolf btw ..how long did it take you to do that recent animation? and how many frames is that exactly? looks like 63 from what i see.
    @Sexperienced. that homework assignment of each of us making our own comic strip sounds like fun.
    as long as its
    -jjust one page minimum requirement. but allowed to make as many pages as one likes.
    -and no time limit for when its due.
    i'll prob use medibang cause comic strip paneling is so damn easy with it
  • PozerWolfPozerWolf Gummies, yum! ;o Joined: Posts: 8,397 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    edited January 12
    Oh shit, haven't been keeping up about the forums. I thought it was done mode for good.
    StockyJam wrote: »
    btw ..how long did it take you to do that recent animation? and how many frames is that exactly? looks like 63 from what i see.

    It's drawn in 2s so it's about half of that all done via traditional.
    Drawing it only took about less than an hour, but before I started drawing I had to plan it out the scene (you can see some of the planning I did in the first few frames with the lines to judge the Perspective).

    However, certain key frames (like 1, 13, 25, 37, and 49 ) I'd draw first to measure the distance. Quality of the broom would increase every time it reached one of these key frames to show depth that it's getting closer to the camera. I also tried to make sure the Top and Bottom of the broom stick stayed within the lines of perspective and adjusted accordingly if it looked off. Of course, some parts still look off, but overall I kind of got lazy and rushed some parts since I was hitting deadline of the assignment.
    The "easy fix" mention in this situation would have been making the last 5 frames of the stick Longer. Doing so would have created the illusion of consistency, regardless of the errors during the walk. Not to mention, coloring does a REALLY good job of masking these errors, as color in itself is another illusion that fixes these type of issues. Plus, there's always the "clean up" phase, where it's per tea easy to make any adjustments after the rough is done.

    So I would say the animation was more preparing than anything else. Once prepared, it was actually really easy.
    All I do is draw naked birds all day.
    Twitter; PozerWolf
  • Sexperienced.Sexperienced. kdh Joined: Posts: 5,353
    edited January 13
    StockyJam wrote: »
    @Sexperienced. that homework assignment of each of us making our own comic strip sounds like fun.
    as long as its
    -jjust one page minimum requirement. but allowed to make as many pages as one likes.
    -and no time limit for when its due.
    i'll prob use medibang cause comic strip paneling is so damn easy with it

    *Yes, the minimum required number of pages is one and the maximum just two (A4 sized) pages but I think we should all agree on doing the same number of pages per story. It might be a bit weird if someone does 10 pages and someone else does just one. The work will be easier to critique if we all do the same number of pages.

    *I'll agree with the no time limit.

    *Anyone can decide the story.

    *The work should be completed and showcased in pencil, black and white, or grey-scale, but after this you can resubmit the same illustration in colour if you want.
    Post edited by Sexperienced. on
  • StockyJamStockyJam beat me like the bitch that i am Joined: Posts: 6,055
    ok.
    but im a little confused about one thing. each of us comes up with their own individual story independent of one another? or should we all consolidate and decide on one story/premise and each of each make a few pages of the same story? like a joint collab.
  • Sexperienced.Sexperienced. kdh Joined: Posts: 5,353
    My bad, I meant we can all suggest ideas for stories, then we agree on which story to do first. If we have more than one good idea we can do each story one after the other.

    Pozerwolf, I'm interested in learning some animation techniques. Can you recommend me some books that cover everything I need to know about animation?
  • StockyJamStockyJam beat me like the bitch that i am Joined: Posts: 6,055
    edited January 13
    mmm. i suggest we do action/adventure genre first. cuz even if we are funny since everyone on srk has a sense of humor, in my opinion, comedy is much harder. we can try tackling the comedy genre later.

    the only idea i have regarding action comic...
    well, i thought, what are the 3 coolest things on earth.
    ninjas
    robots
    and vampires.

    so i was thinking, one ninja as the protagonist, sorta like Strider, but not Strider...infiltrates the antagonist/boss villain headquarters, and said boss is a vampire...and ninja has to fight his or her way through guardian robots to reach final boss aka vampire.
    thats my idea.
    but the cool thing about these 3 cool character types is that they can be interchangable.
    hero can be a vampire, ninja the villain with robot henchmen.
    or robot can be hero fighting ninjas to reach vampire. any character can play role.
  • Sexperienced.Sexperienced. kdh Joined: Posts: 5,353
    So is the ending of the story the outcome of the confrontation between the protagonist and the main boss or does it end with the henchmen? Do we get to decide whether the main villain loses or not, so can we give an unexpected twist ending?
  • StockyJamStockyJam beat me like the bitch that i am Joined: Posts: 6,055
    you guys can decide anything you want. whether its the ending, the villain losing or not, twist ending. etc.
    i just know it should have ninja robot and vampire. as long as we see all 3 at some point make an appearance.
    the pages i planned to draw involved ninja reaching hQ of vampiire futuristic castle by aircraft, dropping out the sky before aircraft crashes from anti aircraft fire.
    sorta like intro to shinobi ps2.
    mmmmm.
    and then ninja being confronted by patrol robot,or robots after he lands. since there can be multiple robots, since in my vision the robot character is just henchmen. but i think there should be just one hero, one villain, but the third role of henchmen can be multiples of the same character.
    for example, if we decide robot is the hero, there can be multiple ninja henchmen for robot to face off against.
  • Sexperienced.Sexperienced. kdh Joined: Posts: 5,353
    OK, understood it seems pretty straight forward.
  • StockyJamStockyJam beat me like the bitch that i am Joined: Posts: 6,055
    anyone else have any other ideas theyd like to share?

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