Tyrant Slaughter Urien

SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
I think this is a really good super beause it adds something to Urien's game that he doesn't have with SA3 and that's punishing power. Tyrant Slaughter is as fast as the fastest supers in the game at medium range where the first hit will connect. It friggin ownz most sweeps like Shoto sweeps if they are blocked. It also adds a new dimension to Urien that he doesn't have with SA3 and that's baiting power. >+forward, uoh, close c. forward can all lead to baiting them then Tyrant SLaughter (it has invincibility). But mainly, I like it cause it does great damage and it's really fast so it can be used defensively, and I think a lot of times Urien doesn't have much to make ppl fear rushing him down.

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  • J BlazeJ Blaze Joined: Posts: 250
    on opponent wakeup: whiff throw, super

    on high or low parry: low short, super

    links to supers: UOH, super

    meaty low MK on opponent wakeup, super (I've never tried this one, but seen it on Mopreme's link encyclopedia)
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    Originally posted by J Blaze
    on opponent wakeup: whiff throw, super

    on high or low parry: low short, super

    links to supers: UOH, super

    meaty low MK on opponent wakeup, super (I've never tried this one, but seen it on Mopreme's link encyclopedia)

    The ones i use most of the time:

    Lk chariot tackle-> SAI. U can do it on reaction with practice

    Jumping Rh->SAI if it connects

    Crouching lp, lp -> SAI

    Punishment

    The UOH super u mentioned

    To finish a jumping opponent with low life
  • exodusexodus anti-vid scrub advocate! Joined: Posts: 2,078 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Originally posted by anti-retard
    I think this is a really good super beause it adds something to Urien's game that he doesn't have with SA3 and that's punishing power. Tyrant Slaughter is as fast as the fastest supers in the game at medium range where the first hit will connect. It friggin ownz most sweeps like Shoto sweeps if they are blocked. It also adds a new dimension to Urien that he doesn't have with SA3 and that's baiting power. >+forward, uoh, close c. forward can all lead to baiting them then Tyrant SLaughter (it has invincibility). But mainly, I like it cause it does great damage and it's really fast so it can be used defensively, and I think a lot of times Urien doesn't have much to make ppl fear rushing him down.

    it's good at low level play. at high level play, aegis is just about the only thing that matters. to defy this is to admit newbness! ;)
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  • EverdredEverdred seriously casual Joined: Posts: 1,720 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Re: Re: Tyrant Slaughter Urien
    Originally posted by Mufasa


    The ones i use most of the time:

    Lk chariot tackle-> SAI. U can do it on reaction with practice

    Jumping Rh->SAI if it connects

    Crouching lp, lp -> SAI

    Punishment

    The UOH super u mentioned

    To finish a jumping opponent with low life

    why not use jab, jab, strong chain and buffer off the strong? i think its easier to do than just 2 standing jabs into SA1
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  • J BlazeJ Blaze Joined: Posts: 250
    Re: Re: Re: Tyrant Slaughter Urien
    Originally posted by EVERDRED


    why not use jab, jab, strong chain and buffer off the strong? i think its easier to do than just 2 standing jabs into SA1

    he never talked about standing jabs...
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    Re: Re: Re: Tyrant Slaughter Urien
    Originally posted by EVERDRED


    why not use jab, jab, strong chain and buffer off the strong? i think its easier to do than just 2 standing jabs into SA1

    Yeah, thats another way but crouching jabs is better cos they hit crouching and standing opponents.

    Another way to land SAI is linking EX chariot, SAI
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    U mean that if u are at point blank and u activate SAI, the opponent cant block after the super flash?

    Another subject. I played yesterday in the arcade and verified some things.

    The timing is definitely different due to lack of input lag. Specials come out sooner. The timing of Urien juggles differ from DC and arcade.

    In arcade version, connecting any tackle and SAI is much much easier than in the DC. Not only due to imput lag thing, but also cos in the arcade there is more time to cancel/link into super.
  • exodusexodus anti-vid scrub advocate! Joined: Posts: 2,078 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    input lag is really nothing. it's the frames that make the difference.
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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    Originally posted by exodus


    it's good at low level play. at high level play, aegis is just about the only thing that matters. to defy this is to admit newbness! ;)

    Why would u think that? It's a very fast, powerful super and I see no reason why it wouldn't be good at any level of play. Oh, and I never knew it can't be blocked on reaction at point blank...that's cool to know!
  • exodusexodus anti-vid scrub advocate! Joined: Posts: 2,078 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    it does not have any versatility. you pretty much have to combo it, or use it as a counter, which is highly risky. once again, i'm talking about HIGH LEVEL PLAY.
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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    Re: Re: Tyrant Slaughter Urien
    Originally posted by anti-retard


    Why would u think that? It's a very fast, powerful super and I see no reason why it wouldn't be good at any level of play. Oh, and I never knew it can't be blocked on reaction at point blank...that's cool to know!


    why isn't a great super?

    It's just not Aegis. pretty simple eh?
  • agentzagentz has vegan powers Joined: Posts: 332
    The thing about the Aegis is it's just so damn useful

    Takes the delay off of moves (6 hit corner tackle "win button" combo)

    Can use the PP version for anti air, combo off of tackles or hits on a reset.

    Aegis also has tons of traps (alot of which are unblockable)

    It's not that the Tyrant Slaughter is bad or anything
    It's just not Aegis. pretty simple eh?

    Exactly
    Low short, throw
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    Originally posted by exodus
    it does not have any versatility. you pretty much have to combo it, or use it as a counter, which is highly risky. once again, i'm talking about HIGH LEVEL PLAY.

    So you're saying it doesn't have versatility because you have to use it in a combo or as a counter? Isn't this how you use 99% of supers?

    Tyrant Slaughter does good in high level play for the same reason Chun's and Ken's SA3 do good. It's too fast.

    EDIT:

    Oh yeah, just so people know. This super punishes a lot of HIT (upclose) UOH's because it's so damn fast (especially upclose).
  • exodusexodus anti-vid scrub advocate! Joined: Posts: 2,078 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    it being fast has very little to do with things. ok. so someone does a UOH -- you're going to punish him as a counter? well i dunno about you, but if i were to play urien, i wouldn't want to waste a long super bar for only 1 hit.

    ken and chun aren't good because of their super alone. ken is a flexible player with many arsenals [he doent rely on his super] -- chun li has such great priority moves like fierce and the pressure that she adds on lets her win. this same pressure can be seen with aegis -- if you play tyrant slaughter urien against me, i'll just go rape you. but if you played aegis, i'd be wary.

    bottom line is, urien's aegis is his strong point. without it, he only has the dash and some range pokes. the fact that you say akuma's god-hand isn't invincible, and now this, plus the previous flaming that TOSF has done on you, only leads me to believe that you're still fairly early in the learning process of this game.
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  • J BlazeJ Blaze Joined: Posts: 250
    Chun's super is good because that bitch can link it after a low MK, as well as fucking everything else she has.

    Ken is similar off the low MP. You can detect the super cancel off the low MK if you're good.

    Urien...SAI doesn't link off the low MK in normal conditions. Only realistic way to connect (that doesn't include guessing) are from low jabs, UOH. It's just not versatile enough.

    But I admit, it's much better than that piece of shit Temporal Thunder.
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    Originally posted by exodus
    only leads me to believe that you're still fairly early in the learning process of this game.

    LOLOLOL!...that was classic...
  • exodusexodus anti-vid scrub advocate! Joined: Posts: 2,078 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    it's true. it's not like im some grand master -- i just know more than you do at this point. you live, make mistakes, and learn. that's it.
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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    Originally posted by exodus
    it's true. it's not like im some grand master -- i just know more than you do at this point. you live, make mistakes, and learn. that's it.

    i'm suuuure u do...HAHAHAHA. keep it going this is giving me some cheap laughs.
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    he does, so shut up and listen to your boss.














    ...please.
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    It seems that some SA's are just more acceptable than others, and this one doesnt seem to be one of them. I mean look at Hugo, all his SA's are widely accepted at any standard, whereas Uriens SA's seem to be SA3>SA2>SA1 in terms of how high tier they are.

    Just a thought. :)
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    Just another thought, which order you you guys think Uriens SA's are in terms of use? Obviously SA3 is top, so which is next?
  • EverdredEverdred seriously casual Joined: Posts: 1,720 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Originally posted by Ssongro
    It seems that some SA's are just more acceptable than others, and this one doesnt seem to be one of them. I mean look at Hugo, all his SA's are widely accepted at any standard, whereas Uriens SA's seem to be SA3>SA2>SA1 in terms of how high tier they are.

    Just a thought. :)

    wouldnt it be SA3 > SA1 > SA2
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  • zeroGzeroG Joined: Posts: 460
    Point is, Urien isn't a Shodokan!! So if you want to play any decent matches with him your going to have to take your sweet ass time to perfect everything. Lord knows I've had to. Well, with the Aegis.
    Stay White for Wade Jones!
  • J BlazeJ Blaze Joined: Posts: 250
    Originally posted by zerog
    Point is, Urien isn't a Shodokan!! So if you want to play any decent matches with him your going to have to take your sweet ass time to perfect everything. Lord knows I've had to. Well, with the Aegis.

    YEah....maybe...but even with the Aegis, I still rate Urien to be one of the easiest to play. He's essentially a turtle, and it's easier to play defensive than to rush that shit down. Chun has got to be the EASIEST to pick up.

    On the other hand, I rate Makoto as one of the hardest to pick up. Constant dashing in and out, moving, poking, mind games...very active joystick movement.

    Oh, and I'll say it again. His Temporal Thunder is USELESS.
  • AneurysmXAneurysmX wryr wyry wryyyy.... Joined: Posts: 1,041
    The aegis is by far Urien's best super and probably one of the best supers in the game. SA1 is fun for casual, SA2 just bites, but without the aegis Urien doesnt really have to much to offer. With it he's super deadly. To be an Urien expert u gotta abuse that mirror.
    There are only 3 things u can do when I come down there and whoop your ass! 1 nothing, 2 like it, 3 activate Genei Jin.
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    Originally posted by AneurysmX
    To be an Urien expert u gotta abuse that mirror.

    It's not a mirror. It's a window.
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    Jason Cole = King of SAI Urien.

    At Evo he practically won all of his matches in pool play with SAI set-ups. It was hilarious! :lol:
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin

    Jumping HK/HP, Crouching LP, Crouching LP, EX Tackle
    Link into "Tyrant's Daughter." :)

    Crouching LK xx Tyrant is very useful, too.

    Edit: You can Link SA1 off a jumping HK... no matter how deep.
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