The (Mod-Approved) Skullgirls Tier/Theory Discussion Thread.

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  • NissanZaximaNissanZaxima Joined: Posts: 7,686
    I don't feel like Filia is very good. For now I don't think anyone does less damage than she does, her normals aren't the greatest, her main launcher has no horizontal range, her throws are crap and she's a meter whore

    Fortune and Painwheel seem strong though

    Completely agree on Filia. I feel like her IAD mixups are being overrated and exaggerated by most because the game is so new. She suffers a ton when she is by herself. I could see her being nuts though with the proper assist(s) (which is why I love this game, every character has something going for them).

    I use Painwheel and Filias Psylocke assist and I feel like if Painwheel dies then I lose. Filia by herself seems pretty free.

    I would love to hear your reasoning on why Ms. Fortune is so strong though. She is one of the characters I have very minimal experience with so my knowledge on her is extremely low (her and Double are easily the 2 characters I know the least about). I took her to the training room for like 10 minutes and her obvious strengths just didnt hit me as much as the other characters in this game (I know she has her headless gimmicks but I am very unsure to how strong they are).
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  • FirebrandedFirebranded Aerial Ace Joined: Posts: 3,817
    Completely agree on Filia. I feel like her IAD mixups are being overrated and exaggerated by most because the game is so new. She suffers a ton when she is by herself. I could see her being nuts though with the proper assist(s) (which is why I love this game, every character has something going for them).

    I use Painwheel and Filias Psylocke assist and I feel like if Painwheel dies then I lose. Filia by herself seems pretty free.
    Filia has some pretty amazing GTFO me supers though. But thats thing about Rushdown characters, you want people to GTF Near me. I'm kinda baffled at why she doesn't have a luminous body/ bionic arm/ Kitty Helper.
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  • NissanZaximaNissanZaxima Joined: Posts: 7,686
    Filia has some pretty amazing GTFO me supers though. But thats thing about Rushdown characters, you want people to GTF Near me. I'm kinda baffled at why she doesn't have a luminous body/ bionic arm/ Kitty Helper.

    Yea but if you detect those GTFO supers and block them... then thanks for playing Filia :tup:. That is another reason i love this game. Random hypers are high risk/low reward (I think at least, correct me if I am wrong) that you really need to have a Godlike guess.
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  • FirebrandedFirebranded Aerial Ace Joined: Posts: 3,817
    Yea but if you detect those GTFO supers and block them... then thanks for playing Filia :tup:. That is another reason i love this game. Random hypers are high risk/low reward (I think at least, correct me if I am wrong) that you really need to have a Godlike guess.
    Peacock's super is safe from faraway, as expected.
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  • NissanZaximaNissanZaxima Joined: Posts: 7,686
    Peacock's super is safe from faraway, as expected.

    She needs that though. It makes sense for her archtype. Mike Z if you ever read this comment you are a fucking genius when it comes to character balance. Everything I come across in this game so far I always feel like it makes a bunch of sense. I truly feel like every character in this game has a purpose for choosing them (which is completely opposite of what I think about every other game in the cosmos).

    Fighting game developers take note - less characters that are more balanced >>>>>>> more characters that arent balanced (at a competitive level)
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  • Mr. XMr. X Non Stop ∞ Climax Joined: Posts: 20,239
    Here I thought HFA jumped the gun a bit by making and locking out anything related to tiers.

    You guys aren't even mentioning tools, strengths, weaknesses, matchups or anything really.
    You did not go back in time, this is how the forums look.
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  • FirebrandedFirebranded Aerial Ace Joined: Posts: 3,817
    Here I thought HFA jumped the gun a bit by making and locking out anything related to tiers.

    You guys aren't even mentioning tools, strengths, weaknesses, matchups or anything really.
    The thread has only been around for a couple hours X...you expect greatness so soon? lol
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  • CriminalUpperCriminalUpper =D Joined: Posts: 3,129
    Completely agree on Filia. I feel like her IAD mixups are being overrated and exaggerated by most because the game is so new. She suffers a ton when she is by herself. I could see her being nuts though with the proper assist(s) (which is why I love this game, every character has something going for them).

    I use Painwheel and Filias Psylocke assist and I feel like if Painwheel dies then I lose. Filia by herself seems pretty free.

    I could also see her being effective when backed by 2 good assists like a Cerebella command grab and Double ass bomb. Her point game is underwhelming though, she gets shut down by characters like Parasoul who has a stronger normal game, eventually her IAD pressure just becomes AA bait, once you deny her air approach she'll have a hard time getting in since her ground normals are mediocre to bad. At the same time though she does have some use since her assists are pretty good. HK Hairball is nice for rushdown and her DP assist being a damn good AA
    I would love to hear your reasoning on why Ms. Fortune is so strong though. She is one of the characters I have very minimal experience with so my knowledge on her is extremely low (her and Double are easily the 2 characters I know the least about). I took her to the training room for like 10 minutes and her obvious strengths just didnt hit me as much as the other characters in this game (I know she has her headless gimmicks but I am very unsure to how strong they are).

    I've only been playing her for a little while myself. She deals good damage, I feel like she has a better air game than Filia because of j.HK, j.HP and axe kick. All are stronger for aerial approach than Filia's j.MP or j.HP. She good options for safe pressure thanks to Rekkas, Axe Kick and blockstrings without her head. She builds a ton of meter, especially when headless also. Basically I feel her headless game, once fleshed out, will make her one of the stronger point characters
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    Moved to the SG forum where it belongs.

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  • BeaMBeaM 「Elec!」 Joined: Posts: 332
    The thread has only been around for a couple hours X...you expect greatness so soon? lol
    That's exactly why this thread shouldn't exist yet. D:
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  • FirebrandedFirebranded Aerial Ace Joined: Posts: 3,817
    That's exactly why this thread shouldn't exist yet. D:
    People should be able to discuss this stuff if they do so in a civil manner. It's unfair that there is a ban on tier talk.
    If every other game allows it then why not Skullgirls?
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  • Mr. XMr. X Non Stop ∞ Climax Joined: Posts: 20,239
    People should be able to discuss this stuff if they do so in a civil manner. It's unfair that there is a ban on tier talk.
    If every other game allows it then why not Skullgirls?
    Because you aren't discussing the stuff that decides tiers, you're just making lists with no thought or reason behind it.
    You did not go back in time, this is how the forums look.
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  • NissanZaximaNissanZaxima Joined: Posts: 7,686
    Because you aren't discussing the stuff that decides tiers, you're just making lists with no thought or reason behind it.

    Again you could just, ya know, not come into the thread if it annoys you
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  • FirebrandedFirebranded Aerial Ace Joined: Posts: 3,817
    Because you aren't discussing the stuff that decides tiers, you're just making lists with no thought or reason behind it.
    I'll say this and leave it. People like to discuss these types of things and eventually more and more people will want to. Why wait until a million people are spamming the SG forum with "Who da bess?" or "I think dis da bess!" threads until one is created? I took initiative and started it due to a post of dime's yesterday. Finally, if you look at who's off topic and whose causing trouble it certainly isn't the people who want to talk about these types of things. It's the naysayers causing the ruckus in a civil topic thus far. All I ask is that the mods give this at least a chance to run for awhile.
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  • Mr. XMr. X Non Stop ∞ Climax Joined: Posts: 20,239
    Because it's not the list that is important, it's the reasoning behind the list that are important (tools, options, matchups) and you guys aren't talking about anything.

    The sooner you know this, the better off everyone is.
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  • FirebrandedFirebranded Aerial Ace Joined: Posts: 3,817
    I've only been playing her for a little while myself. She deals good damage, I feel like she has a better air game than Filia because of j.HK, j.HP and axe kick. All are stronger for aerial approach than Filia's j.MP or j.HP. She good options for safe pressure thanks to Rekkas, Axe Kick and blockstrings without her head. She builds a ton of meter, especially when headless also. Basically I feel her headless game, once fleshed out, will make her one of the stronger point characters

    As of now I think Fortune is a better rushdown character than Filia. Filia does not have many good pokes to compliment her speed. Fortune's J.HP J.HK Cr. HK are particularly amazing pokes and Fortune is far from being a slow character. Range and Speed make a great Rushdown character. Filia lacks alot of range.
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  • MacarrattiMacarratti Joined: Posts: 1,421
    Rather than general tier theorizing (way too soon to make anything even approaching a logical assessment of that right now), here's a more specific tier/matchup question for folks to chew on:

    Which character can deal with pressure really well?

    I feel like the zoning characters have some really effective anti-pressure tools. Parasol has napalm cannon with that captain corridor hitbox and invul. Startup, and peacock's teleport is much better for escaping bad situations than I originally thought. Peacock's throw range and lvl3 also make her alot scarier up close than most other zoning characters.

    As a Cerebella main, I feel that she is not in her element when she's rushed down. She's not ass (I don't think any character is truly ass at anything... At least so far) but she definitely doesn't have any cure-alls for that situation.

    I'd like to hear what filia and fortune mains have to say, since I have the least experience with them
  • NissanZaximaNissanZaxima Joined: Posts: 7,686
    Which character can deal with pressure really well?

    It boils down to this games mechanics. Your character is only as good with pressure as you are.
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  • Radiantsilvergun3Radiantsilvergun3 Smooth Criminal Joined: Posts: 11,277
    marking so I can read tier discussions, which are always interesting :D

    Sensei, because the mod over there doesn't like tier lists.
    Because it's too fucking early to be talking about tier lists. You guys just get in your own way worrying about this shit. Shut up and play the game, the tiers will sort themselves out.

    Fuck you guys are stupid.
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  • FirebrandedFirebranded Aerial Ace Joined: Posts: 3,817
    Rather than general tier theorizing (way too soon to make anything even approaching a logical assessment of that right now), here's a more specific tier/matchup question for folks to chew on:

    Which character can deal with pressure really well?

    I feel like the zoning characters have some really effective anti-pressure tools. Parasol has napalm cannon with that captain corridor hitbox and invul. Startup, and peacock's teleport is much better for escaping bad situations than I originally thought. Peacock's throw range and lvl3 also make her alot scarier up close than most other zoning characters.

    As a Cerebella main, I feel that she is not in her element when she's rushed down. She's not ass (I don't think any character is truly ass at anything... At least so far) but she definitely doesn't have any cure-alls for that situation.

    I'd like to hear what filia and fortune mains have to say, since I have the least experience with them

    Fortune has Fiber upper which has an invul.start-up and Filia has updo as counter measures, but as I said before Fortune has much better range and thus she can deal with people farther away than Filia can and she has more space to maneuver in. But Filia does have her speed and looks like a good CH fisher IMO.
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  • Amazing FunbagsAmazing Funbags The J-Cup Lover Joined: Posts: 17,890
    Because it's too fucking early to be talking about tier lists. You guys just get in your own way worrying about this shit. Shut up and play the game, the tiers will sort themselves out.

    Fuck you guys are stupid.

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  • NissanZaximaNissanZaxima Joined: Posts: 7,686
    Because it's too fucking early to be talking about tier lists. You guys just get in your own way worrying about this shit. Shut up and play the game, the tiers will sort themselves out.

    Fuck you guys are stupid.

    Lol people like you crack me up. Come into a tier discussion thread while knowing exactly what is going to be talked about only to post some sort of nonsensical rage post. It "being too early" is irrelevant, even if it is abstract to the highest degree it is only discussion.

    I am going to post this one last time:

    Dont fucking come into a tier discussion thread if it is only going to propell you into some stupid rage post about a tier thread discussing tiers.
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  • ArachnofiendArachnofiend Double Uzis and a Wink Joined: Posts: 2,058
    You only play Peacock :P. Enjoy your opening month runaway spam fests XD.
    Yes because Cable only worked in month 1 mirite
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  • FirebrandedFirebranded Aerial Ace Joined: Posts: 3,817
    Yes because Cable only worked in month 1 mirite
    You know I was just kidding with Arachno, But I think Peacock will settle mid. Shes very strong in the range derpartment and her level 3 throw is perfect to stop pressure. But she really lacks in combo strength and resets, (as expected) and in the end I think this will hurt her somewhat

    EDIT: Everyone, ignore the troll below please.
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  • Radiantsilvergun3Radiantsilvergun3 Smooth Criminal Joined: Posts: 11,277
    Lol people like you crack me up. Come into a tier discussion thread while knowing exactly what is going to be talked about only to post some sort of nonsensical rage post. It "being too early is irrelevant, even if it is abstract to the highest degree it is only discussion.

    I am going to post this one last time:

    Dont fucking come into a tier discussion thread if it is only going to propell you into some stupid rage post about a tier thread discussing tiers.
    I don't care how many times you do, or don't post your stupid little PSA. DON'T MAKE TIER DISCUSSION THREADS WHEN THE GAME IS LESS THEN WEEK OLD!!!

    It's like you fuckers don't even understand how this shit works. You're all scrubs.
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  • ArachnofiendArachnofiend Double Uzis and a Wink Joined: Posts: 2,058
    I would be inclined to agree. Fortunately at my low/mid level play I'm going to be spending a lot of time with people who are going to make my Peacock look S tier. :U

    I will say that Peacock needs to be played on point and it makes me sad to see anyone run her as an assist. This isn't Marvel, you can't run a dedicated assist character who can't hold her own in a fight. Peacock's assists aren't even THAT good. Peacock with an AAA behind her, on the other hand...
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  • FirebrandedFirebranded Aerial Ace Joined: Posts: 3,817
    I would be inclined to agree. Fortunately at my low/mid level play I'm going to be spending a lot of time with people who are going to make my Peacock look S tier. :U

    I will say that Peacock needs to be played on point and it makes me sad to see anyone run her as an assist. This isn't Marvel, you can't run a dedicated assist character who can't hold her own in a fight. Peacock's assists aren't even THAT good. Peacock with an AAA behind her, on the other hand...

    She should definitely be on point, Peacock looks like she doesn't really have a super strong and reliable tool to stop mix-ups when she's thrown in. She definitely has options but not the best ones.
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  • NissanZaximaNissanZaxima Joined: Posts: 7,686
    I don't care how many times you do, or don't post your stupid little PSA. DON'T MAKE TIER DISCUSSION THREADS WHEN THE GAME IS LESS THEN WEEK OLD!!!

    It's like you fuckers don't even understand how this shit works. You're all scrubs.

    Lol ok here is an example you might understand.

    Lets say I hated Golden Retrievers (for whatever reason) and in the general discussion forum there was a thread with the title "The Golden Retriever thread", I would in no way shape or form enter that thread just to get pissed at the discussion that the thread title showed what would be discussed.

    Call me a scrub all you want. You are the moron that entered a thread that had a title which would get you all pissed off in the first place :rofl::rofl::rofl:.
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  • Mr. XMr. X Non Stop ∞ Climax Joined: Posts: 20,239
    Lol ok here is an example you might understand.

    Lets say I hated Golden Retrievers (for whatever reason) and in the general discussion forum there was a thread with the title "The Golden Retriever thread", I would in no way shape or form enter that thread just to get pissed at the discussion that the thread title showed what would be discussed.

    Call me a scrub all you want. You are the moron that entered a thread that had a title which would get you all pissed off in the first place :rofl::rofl::rofl:.
    It's more like "Oh Tier Thread, should be good game discussion in here"

    First post "HERE'S MY TIER LIST GUYS! LOOK NO REASON OR ANYTHING TO DISCUSS, JUST A LIST!"

    and then a bunch of other posters doing the same. There's no discussing, no debating, no talking about tools or matchups or anything, it's just a bunch of lists.

    An early tier list is fine if you can explain "why" everyone is where they are.
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  • xesxes Evil Forrest Gump Joined: Posts: 2,528
    X, learn to ignore posts you don't like (yes its advice I should take myself sometimes, but take it from someone who knows)

    There's always a huge noise-to-signal ratio in these kinds of discussions, especially when a game is brand new like this.
  • Radiantsilvergun3Radiantsilvergun3 Smooth Criminal Joined: Posts: 11,277
    Lol ok here is an example you might understand.

    Lets say I hated Golden Retrievers (for whatever reason) and in the general discussion forum there was a thread with the title "The Golden Retriever thread", I would in no way shape or form enter that thread just to get pissed at the discussion that the thread title showed what would be discussed.

    Call me a scrub all you want. You are the moron that entered a thread that had a title which would get you all pissed off in the first place :rofl::rofl::rofl:.
    I'm even not pissed off. I'm just saying your all stupid for trying to tier a game that isn't even a week old. tiers aren't about speculation and guessing. You don't guess where people are going to fall into a tier list. you play the fucking game and the tiers work themselves out. Tiers are about facts, none of which any of you have.

    You see the thing is a lot of us on SRK actually care about the quality of the discussion that goes on on this website. Chibi cares about the quality of discussion that goes on in the SGs forum, hence he banned this type of thead because no type of quality discussion can come from it because no fucking knowledge of the game has learned yet. We go into these threads and give you guys shit for making them because they are bad threads.

    Guessing one character will end up mid tier with no real knowledge to back it up is not discussion. It mass guessing and it's retarded, and its the type of schlock scrubs scubscribe to, so yea i will continue to call you a scrub because it's what you are. you know what people who arn't scrubs are doing? Playing Skullbitches and learning about the game, like your supposed to. If this game is any good it will be AT LEAST 6 months before any kind of visible tier list even begins to form.

    Stop concentrating on this shit and go play your characters and level up your game. The tier list will form faster that way instead of you guys going "Well i think she plays like this and will ultimately place her here because ethis is how I play her."

    this thread is just you dumb asses going "daddy told me not to do this so I'm gonna play in front of mommy and hope she doesn't say the same thing" when you know you shouldn't be making them because dad already told you not to. Your analogy is fucking stupid to. I understand what your trying to say, i am blatantly ignoring it because the very presence of the topic offends me.

    scrubby children.
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  • Mr. XMr. X Non Stop ∞ Climax Joined: Posts: 20,239
    X, learn to ignore posts you don't like (yes its advice I should take myself sometimes, but take it from someone who knows)

    There's always a huge noise-to-signal ratio in these kinds of discussions, especially when a game is brand new like this.
    I was trying to point them in the right direction to discuss but all they want to do is skip all the important parts and make the list.
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  • CryohCryoh Rock Shock Thunderous Beat Joined: Posts: 9,643
    I'm normally one to just watch threads develop, but in the case of this one, it's definitely premature. Let the game settle out before making a tier list.

    Especially not before the end of the first week. Holy fuck.
  • guitalex2007guitalex2007 Joined: Posts: 3,025
    VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY early impressions (these will 100% change over time)

    Top Tier - Painwheel
    High Tier - Parasol, Cerebella
    Mid-High Tier - Valentine
    Mid Tier - Peacock, Double
    Mid-Low Tier - Filila
    Low Tier - Ms. Fortune

    This game feel really really balanced though. So the discrepancies between tiers is pretty minimal.
    You should fight my Ms. Fortune; bump it up a couple notches :)
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  • xesxes Evil Forrest Gump Joined: Posts: 2,528
    I was trying to point them in the right direction to discuss but all they want to do is skip all the important parts and make the list.

    so take the aggregate of peoples lists and try to turn it into something useful. "Most people seem to think Parasoul is high- or top- tear, what do you guys think about that?"

    Right now everything is lost by the tier thread commandos trying to get the thread shut down, though. It's basically impossible to talk about anything else.
  • Radiantsilvergun3Radiantsilvergun3 Smooth Criminal Joined: Posts: 11,277
    so take the aggregate of peoples lists and try to turn it into something useful. "Most people seem to think Parasoul is high- or top- tear, what do you guys think about that?"

    Right now everything is lost by the tier thread commandos trying to get the thread shut down, though. It's basically impossible to talk about anything else.
    I think you guys should play the fucking game more and actually learn it before you go spouting BS. It's only been like 4 days how is anyone supposed to know what Parasol is like at high level play when high level play doesn;t even exist yet? which by the way is what Tier lists are about. What characters are like when played at peak level.
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  • FirebrandedFirebranded Aerial Ace Joined: Posts: 3,817
    Honestly there was good conversation. But as always some people have to ruin it for others. I may start something off of SRK though for people who really want to talk about it though. Although I may suggest that this thread be deleted just because its apparent that people have to mouth off at things they dont want to contribute to. I'll give it a few more days, if the conversation isn't solid I'll be requesting a delete.

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  • Radiantsilvergun3Radiantsilvergun3 Smooth Criminal Joined: Posts: 11,277
    There's nothing to contibute to. You don't know how these characters are supposed to played at Peak Level so there was no worth while conversation going on. THAT'S THE POINT peopl are trying to make to you guys but you keep sticking you fingers in you ears and going "LALALALALALA Don't come into topic if you don't like it LALALALALA"
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  • NissanZaximaNissanZaxima Joined: Posts: 7,686
    It's more like "Oh Tier Thread, should be good game discussion in here"

    First post "HERE'S MY TIER LIST GUYS! LOOK NO REASON OR ANYTHING TO DISCUSS, JUST A LIST!"

    and then a bunch of other posters doing the same. There's no discussing, no debating, no talking about tools or matchups or anything, it's just a bunch of lists.

    An early tier list is fine if you can explain "why" everyone is where they are.

    I understand where you are coming from, however, I feel the last page or so people have been discussing why they think characters are good or not good. I would certainly agree if it was just a bunch of people posting personal lists, but it has hardly been that.

    For me personally I admit my list I posted was very juvenile when it came to ranking what character where. I will repost it right meow and explain why I think what character goes where. Again, not my list is very very very very young and it will most certainly change over the course of time I have with this game.

    Top tier:
    Painwheel (insane mobility, good damage, and ability to unfly-refly creates infinite amounts of mixup opportunities)

    High tier:
    Parasol (Great normals, Napalm bomb or whatever that move is called)
    Cerebella (Nuts damage and really good up close options)

    Mid-High tier:
    Valentine (Dat Wesker.......)

    Mid tier:
    Peacockl (Nice keepaway, decent normals for when foes get close, full screen punish hyper ect.)
    Double (Very very limited time against this character, ranking it here for now until I understand all her options)

    Mid-Low tier:
    Filia (Good mobility, so-so close normals, meh damage.... AMAZING assist though)

    Low tier:
    Ms. Filia (see Double. The one opponent I played that used her In had almost no trouble with, thus the "low tier" stamp)

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  • xesxes Evil Forrest Gump Joined: Posts: 2,528
    I think you guys should play the fucking game more and actually learn it before you go spouting BS. It's only been like 4 days how is anyone supposed to know what Parasol is like at high level play when high level play doesn;t even exist yet? which by the way is what Tier lists are about. What characters are like when played at peak level.

    Discussion and thought processes are emergent.

    It's just as interesting to see what people think at first, and how that opinion changes as the game grows as it is to figure out what's top tier and whore it out... actually it's substantially more interesting.

    This kind of discussion is a process.

    Firebranded, if you do that the terrorists win!
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