Undamned's USB Decoders (USB to JAMMA, etc.) !

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  • pefclicpefclic Joined: Posts: 10
    Could you, please, start the ordering process ?
  • undamnedundamned Wake up! Time to die! Joined: Posts: 1,687
    pefclic wrote: »
    Could you, please, start the ordering process ?
    I'm still finishing up some details for this next big order. I'm using the few dozen I have built up to take care of early responders. You are already on my list, so if I don't hear from all of those guys soon, there may be enough for you, too.
    -ud
  • Jasen HicksJasen Hicks JasensCustoms.com Joined: Posts: 2,385
    edited April 2014
    Was I not early enough?!

    :-D
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  • slash5150slash5150 Naptime? Joined: Posts: 3,616 mod
    Was I not early enough?!

    :-D

    I'd imagine you made 400 names on SRK just to get 400 orders! lol
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  • Jasen HicksJasen Hicks JasensCustoms.com Joined: Posts: 2,385
    edited April 2014
    slash5150 wrote: »
    Was I not early enough?!

    :-D

    I'd imagine you made 400 names on SRK just to get 400 orders! lol

    Ha! That would be funny... but no. I'm not cleaver enough to think of that!

    Seriously though, this is such a great idea. I had thought about finding something COTS to do this same thing but realized it wasn't available and I didnt have the skills/tools at the time to realize it. UD did a fantastic job with these. The Beta version is great right out the box for my needs and most, so this is a big winner. Definitely some utility outside the gaming community for those smart enough to figure it out!
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  • phaedrusphaedrus Joined: Posts: 818
    I am paid sir.
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  • undamnedundamned Wake up! Time to die! Joined: Posts: 1,687
    Considering the amount of PCBs that'll be in there, I'm wondering if most USB ports will provide enough juice? Because that's already at least 5 PCBs in the converter, PLUS whatever else I'll be plugging into it...
    It won't just be USB that is supplying the power, though. If you are going X360 TE stick to Sega Genesis, the Genesis will be powering your boards from it's controller port. I don't know the power limitations on old console controller ports, but I'm guessing you'll have enough.

    It would probably be a good idea to power up each board you want to use individually and measure current draw. Then you have a some reference values for mixing and matching on future projects. If you want to check power draw on a USB port, you could grab a standard USB extension cable, cut the 5V wire, stick your Ampmeter in there and hook up your PS360 or whatever USB device you want to check power on. Also, many USB controllers only request (in their USB descriptors) 100mA power from the console. I don't know how forgiving consoles are (if they will go ahead and provide 500mA, even though the controller only requested 100mA).
    -ud

  • phaedrusphaedrus Joined: Posts: 818
    And shipped. Thank you sir.
    7 button is trap.
  • pefclicpefclic Joined: Posts: 10
    ok, I will wait...
    This is such a great project :-)
  • DarksakulDarksakul Your lack of faith disturbs me Joined: Posts: 24,258
    I did get the UD USB converter working with a SNES.
    http://forums.shoryuken.com/discussion/comment/8671455/#Comment_8671455

    I will also check the output amps of each retro console you are working on.

    To be on the safe side, I limit 1 converter per controller port on your system.
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  • Jasen HicksJasen Hicks JasensCustoms.com Joined: Posts: 2,385
    @Darksakul‌ - Each time I watch the video I love the part "XBOX 360 Controller, Super Nintendo". Its perfect.

    @FreedomGundam‌ - I like the idea of a one to all controller adapter. I'm very interested to see it done!
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  • DarksakulDarksakul Your lack of faith disturbs me Joined: Posts: 24,258
    Thanks Jasen.

    I could have gone with a stick for that video, but I wanted to show how a modern controller can work with a Retro system using undamned's USB board.
    I did make some changes, I put the UD USB board in a project box with a DB 15 connector attached by a cord. and the SNES Pad PCB is going in another box with a matching DB15 connector.

    I found, although its a bit on the big side, a Spark Fun project box case works well for the board.
    Black case - https://www.sparkfun.com/products/8601
    Clear case - https://www.sparkfun.com/products/8632

    Using their plastic stand offs and matching screws, its too easy to mound the board inside.
    Pro tip: I super glue the standoffs to the bottom of the case.

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  • Lemony VengeanceLemony Vengeance JAMMA pad hacker Extraordinaire Joined: Posts: 463
    PM Replied to. Few questions though.

    1) Can the buttons be remapped on the fly, a la the FGW adapter by toodles
    2) Which buttons are supported on the pad? with only 6, that means two are not able to be used. I saw talk earlier, but didn't see what buttons weren't connected. I'd be down for an 8 button version. I don't even need screw terminals, either.
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  • FreedomGundamFreedomGundam Freedom, ikimasu! Joined: Posts: 2,531
    edited April 2014
    PM Replied to. Few questions though.

    1) Can the buttons be remapped on the fly, a la the FGW adapter by toodles
    2) Which buttons are supported on the pad? with only 6, that means two are not able to be used. I saw talk earlier, but didn't see what buttons weren't connected. I'd be down for an 8 button version. I don't even need screw terminals, either.
    From what I read in the instructions:

    1) Yes. On the fly button-remapping is supported, and is not stored in the UD-USB afterwards, so unplugging your controller/stick and plugging in the next one resets the config (useful for tournament play).
    2) From what I understand, it'd be the "default" Jab/Strong/Fierce/Short/Forward/Roundhouse buttons for Street Fighter, so Sq/Tri/R1/X/O/R2. But I believe any of the 8 main buttons (including L1/L2) can be mapped to the 6 functions.
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  • undamnedundamned Wake up! Time to die! Joined: Posts: 1,687
    Freedom is correct. All 8 face buttons + Home/PS button can be mapped to any of the 6 output signals.

    Next version will have outputs for all 8 face buttons + Home/PS button, but will obviously be a bit larger board, to make room for the extra screw terminals.
    -ud
  • Lemony VengeanceLemony Vengeance JAMMA pad hacker Extraordinaire Joined: Posts: 463
    Did you get my PM? :D
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    This is just... brilliant. Posting to subscribe!
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  • slash5150slash5150 Naptime? Joined: Posts: 3,616 mod
    So I just got done putting one of these together and making sure everything worked. Then played about an hour of ST on my Qanba. So amazing! Thank you again!
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  • FreedomGundamFreedomGundam Freedom, ikimasu! Joined: Posts: 2,531
    Hmm. Here's something that I'm pretty sure hasn't been asked:
    So the majority of people are in favor of having 8+3 buttons available (standard console config), and the next revision of the board will have this. Cool.
    The question is: will the 6+2 (standard arcade config) version still be available afterwards? Or are they getting replaced entirely by the 8+3 version?

    I mean, I'd want a few 8+3 versions around for multi-console use, but it's not necessary for arcade/Supergun use, and I'd probably prefer a smaller-sized PCB (like the 6+2 versions) for those purposes...
    Current at-home stick: Hori VLX Kuro (LS-40-01 + PS-14-K)
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  • FoolinfectionFoolinfection Big fish in a little pond 4 LIFE Joined: Posts: 2,240
    Got mine in today!! Popped them into my supergun and they worked marvelously.
    Will definitely wanna get more in the future to experiment with.
    Welcome to the internet. God help you if you have an opinion.

    I should start keeping written letters in sealed envelopes when I go to tournaments. If i get bodied, I give them one, and when they open it up it says "fuk u"

  • rcaidorcaido Dynamic Bayside Duo Joined: Posts: 8,438
    Did i miss a preorder? How is everyone getting theirs already...:(
  • undamnedundamned Wake up! Time to die! Joined: Posts: 1,687
    Was I not early enough?!
    No, I missed you on the list... since YOU ALREADY HAD ONE. :D You can buy one more for now, though.
    Did you get my PM?
    Replied!
    This is just... brilliant. Posting to subscribe!
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    rcaido wrote: »
    Did i miss a preorder? How is everyone getting theirs already...:(
    Nope. I'm contacting people as their name comes up on my list (order is based on the date interest was expressed, whether it be forum post, PM, or e-mail). As people are responding, some are deciding they'd rather wait for the DB15 versions, so that bumps names on the list (in your favor). Still waiting on a few more people to respond before you are up!
    slash5150 wrote: »
    So I just got done putting one of these together and making sure everything worked. Then played about an hour of ST on my Qanba. So amazing! Thank you again!
    Got mine in today!! Popped them into my supergun and they worked marvelously.
    Will definitely wanna get more in the future to experiment with.
    Glad you guys are pleased! I'm curious: how did you guys handle mounting the indicator LEDs?
    Hmm. Here's something that I'm pretty sure hasn't been asked:
    So the majority of people are in favor of having 8+3 buttons available (standard console config), and the next revision of the board will have this. Cool.
    The question is: will the 6+2 (standard arcade config) version still be available afterwards? Or are they getting replaced entirely by the 8+3 version?

    I mean, I'd want a few 8+3 versions around for multi-console use, but it's not necessary for arcade/Supergun use, and I'd probably prefer a smaller-sized PCB (like the 6+2 versions) for those purposes...
    6 button version will be be replaced entirely (though the DB15 version will support 6 buttons and will also be available). And when I said there would be a size increase, we are only talking like 0.25" inch longer.
    -ud
  • Missing PersonMissing Person Quickly becoming the Sailor Moon S guy. Joined: Posts: 13,872
    Shoot, I may actually consider buying this for its extensibility instead of trying to do another dual mod to my Saulabi. I already have a MC Cthulhu, so this would be a good way to make it more useful. Then anyone else could use their 360 controller/stick with whatever else they want when I'm not using it..

    Basically just put the USB converter in a project box with a DB-15 coming out wired up to JAMMA specs, then every other PCB I use would be in another project box with a DB-15 port in, and an RJ-45/Cable out.

    Thus assuring that if I wanted to add XB1/PS4 support later, it's not too difficult. If I wanted to make it braindead easy, just pick up a crossbone for XB1 and I'm sure somebody will come up with a similar solution for the PS4 later.
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  • megadarvemegadarve Joined: Posts: 5
    Just wondering, it seems that I'm a bit late for the first run, but how would I go about signing up for future releases? Very interested in getting some down here too :O
  • slash5150slash5150 Naptime? Joined: Posts: 3,616 mod
    I haven't really gone into mounting anything to the Jasen standard as I call it.

    Right now the supergun I have it just everything bolted to a sheet of plexiglass...aka overpriced breadboard method
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  • rcaidorcaido Dynamic Bayside Duo Joined: Posts: 8,438
    slash5150 wrote: »
    I haven't really gone into mounting anything to the Jasen standard as I call it.

    Right now the supergun I have it just everything bolted to a sheet of plexiglass...aka overpriced breadboard method

    Will you be bringing this to Northwest Majors?
  • [OCT]Wall-Garants[OCT]Wall-Garants Joined: Posts: 45

    UD left some of this first shipment to me?
    I had asked for u so be ready for sale let me know I would get 2 if possible if not i hope next.
    thank you
  • FoolinfectionFoolinfection Big fish in a little pond 4 LIFE Joined: Posts: 2,240
    My current supergun case is very spacious (just a small toolbox) so I had plenty of room to fit it inside without the indicator being in the way. Got these with perfect timing though since I'm running some ST this weekend at a local gameshop.
    Welcome to the internet. God help you if you have an opinion.

    I should start keeping written letters in sealed envelopes when I go to tournaments. If i get bodied, I give them one, and when they open it up it says "fuk u"

  • undamnedundamned Wake up! Time to die! Joined: Posts: 1,687
    megadarve wrote: »
    Just wondering, it seems that I'm a bit late for the first run, but how would I go about signing up for future releases? Very interested in getting some down here too :O
    I add people as they express interest and then contact them as units are available. You are on the list :D
    UD left some of this first shipment to me?
    I had asked for u so be ready for sale let me know I would get 2 if possible if not i hope next.
    thank you
    Possibly. You come after rcaido.
    -ud
  • slash5150slash5150 Naptime? Joined: Posts: 3,616 mod
    rcaido wrote: »

    Will you be bringing this to Northwest Majors?

    Yes sir!
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  • DarksakulDarksakul Your lack of faith disturbs me Joined: Posts: 24,258
    Guys Chill, Undamned got you covered and isn't going to leave you hanging.
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    This thread exploded this week.
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  • pefclicpefclic Joined: Posts: 10
    Do you think that it would be interesting to combine it with the CronusMax ? You could get flexible button assignment and rapid fire, without rewiring the output of the device.
  • undamnedundamned Wake up! Time to die! Joined: Posts: 1,687
    pefclic wrote: »
    Do you think that it would be interesting to combine it with the CronusMax ? You could get flexible button assignment and rapid fire, without rewiring the output of the device.
    I already have flexible button assignment without rewiring! But if you want rapid fire, sure :)
    -ud

  • DarksakulDarksakul Your lack of faith disturbs me Joined: Posts: 24,258
    pefclic wrote: »
    Do you think that it would be interesting to combine it with the CronusMax ? You could get flexible button assignment and rapid fire, without rewiring the output of the device.

    Don't most retail sticks come with Rapid fire/ Turbo now any ways?

    Also rule of thumb, avoid chaining adapters as you sometimes multiply what input lag a adapter would have.
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  • pefclicpefclic Joined: Posts: 10
    undamned wrote: »
    I already have flexible button assignment without rewiring! But if you want rapid fire, sure :)
    -ud
    Nice to hear !
    Darksakul wrote: »
    Don't most retail sticks come with Rapid fire/ Turbo now any ways?
    Also rule of thumb, avoid chaining adapters as you sometimes multiply what input lag a adapter would have.
    Yes you're right :-)

  • Pez_ManPez_Man AND1 Joined: Posts: 31
    if anyone was wondering you can use the pelican ps2 to ps3 controller adapter to connect a ps2 controller to the usb decoder. works just fine
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  • FreedomGundamFreedomGundam Freedom, ikimasu! Joined: Posts: 2,531
    Popped two of these into my Supergun360 (http://forums.shoryuken.com/discussion/comment/8787612/#Comment_8787612). Now both front-panel USB ports on the classic X360 casing are usable for my arcade boards.
    It's SO MUCH more convenient than having a project-boxed FGW Converter hanging from the front. :D

    Can't wait to come up with more uses for these things.
    Current at-home stick: Hori VLX Kuro (LS-40-01 + PS-14-K)
    Current portable stick: Mad Catz TvC (LS-40-01 + PS-14-KN)
    Current guest-sticks: custom ABS Modular stick (JLF + OBSN-30), custom Saint-stick (Happ/IL Competition)
    Cabinet: custom "Resistor" cabinet (32" LCD, X360, P1=LS-32-01 + PS-14-KN, P2=JLF + OBSC-30)
    Previous sticks: custom Happ CvS2 Double-sticks, custom Happ Hitomi-stick & Xenosaga-stick, custom Sanwa/Seimitsu Neptune-stick and Sylvia-stick, modded Mad Catz TvC, modded Mad Catz Brawlstick, modded Hori FSVX, modded Exar Exaprize

    Looking for:
    CPS2 (green or blue): Hyper SF2
    Naomi GD-ROM: SF Zero3 Upper, Puyo Puyo Fever, Triggerheart Excelica, Ikaruga
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