Mr. Warzard wrote: »
Not saying EX Iori isn't all that, he's for sure top tier. And that's fine if you want to have him as the best character in the game, that's a separate argument (I for sure rate him behind Karate and Kim). But I don't agree that he's a full tier higher than Karate and Kim. That's what I found surprising.
EX Iori is more versatile than Karate and Kim, and probably has the best oki in the game. However, overall his normals are worse than both (especially in the air), and his damage is worse as well. He is the only one of the three with an infinite, but the infinite is not dominating the game by any means, and remains a risky thing to burn resources for.
I don't even know that his meterless game is better than Karate and Kim, who don't really need meter to execute their gameplans. (especially Kim, who gets hard knockdowns all day regardless of meter) The difference is that Karate and Kim get even better with meter, while EX Iori's damage potential doesn't get the same boost.
LoyalSol wrote: »
Hwa doesn't need meter to be scary by any means. He actually is pretty damn good on point. Most people know about all the things he can do while drunk, but regular Hwa still has a lot of tools to watch out for. He has probably one of the most annoy sets of normals in the game. Between s.A, slide, s.CD, s.D, etc. his set of normals is obnoxious and also converts easily into massive damage. His buttons even give Kim troubles. He's also got a ton of shenanigans
I've found when playing Hwa point that instead of getting drunk in the 1st round just play it straight and then if you win the 1st round you can choose to HD (His 2 bar does an easy 80%) or activate drunk mode.