Howdy, Stranger!

It looks like you're new here. If you want to get involved, click one of these buttons!

Hi! We are in the final stages of the SRK forum migration. Soon, we will lock the forums so we can transfer over all the discussion threads. Please expect a downtime of a few days while we implement the migration. Thx for your patience.

DevilJin 01 · Get some shill in yo system · mod

Its cool. I ended up doing a lot of eating around different places and money matching, hanging out in the salty suite etc. You were the first good Spencer I've played in a while so it was good playing you the few games I did. Next major we meet up I should have my new theory team ready.

About

Username
DevilJin 01
Joined
Visits
12,284
Last Active
Roles
Registered, Moderators, Premium
Points
39,961
Posts
59,237
  • Re: Cell Thread - Utter Perfection

    Discord is ass.

    Good shit Final
  • Re: The SFV Lounge: SRK is ALIVE. AE Hype is BACK! DISCORD going the way of DISCO

    Froztey wrote: »
    hey guys I'm back here forever as GD invaded the Discord

    Po's Poing broke out of the Netherealm

    When's Falke?
  • Re: The SFV Lounge: SRK is ALIVE. AE Hype is BACK! DISCORD going the way of DISCO

    I want the first copy.
  • Re: The SFV Lounge: SRK is ALIVE. AE Hype is BACK! DISCORD going the way of DISCO

    Chris T is Chris G if he didn't bother to adapt.

    Thats why I don't bother with Twitter. Not dealing with top players throwing out GameFAQs levels of rhetoric
  • Re: Dragon Ball FighterZ General: DBZ Subforum Edition

    Dime wrote: »
    That’s the thing DJ, all that can also be accomplished with a different assist like a beam. You can even combine 2 assist if you abso fucking lutely need to just bulldog your way in... call an assist and super dash, then call the next assist just before your super dash makes contact.

    Etc etc.

    Once again, not saying the assist isn’t really good, but you can accomplish most of the things it does with other assists... you just have to generally have slightly better timing and/or spacing, generally speaking.

    Yamchas assist is probably really underrated right now. It’s no Vegeta assist but the fact that the shit doesn’t knock down/into a tech hit and locks down really fast is HUGE.

    Vegeta assist is a projectile assist that can cover most of the relevant screen space on the screen. You can't do super dash + any other assist and get the cheapness in lockdown or screen coverage that you can with super dash + Vegeta. It's just not in the game. That's just with 2 buttons + call assist. Add that with a lof of other techniques the point characters can do and I'm sure it only gets more nutty. You're basically homing in at at the opponent with something that beats a lot of shit in the game to already cover air and ground, then calling an assist that covers a lot of the ground and a good portion of the air.



    Yamcha's assist has no priority in neutral compared to Vegeta assist. You can just press most attacks or ki blasts at it and it'll go away. Meaning it's pretty much rapid slash tier assist. Can only use it after you've already locked someone down and has no real strong neutral use to help push your way in the neutral. It's not a projectile either so can't use it to beat projectiles or pass through projectiles. It even loses to regular ass ki blasts. At least beam blasts can beat out Vegeta and super dash, but still require a lot of commitment and can be baited easily.

    There is literally no assist in the game that is as good as Vegeta's assist and there is no assist where you can do "similar things". Vegeta's assist lets you do things in the neutral and lockdown that no other assist can do. It's like CapCom or Jam Session with no other comparable assists to select from. Pretty much none of them even come close. The space coverage, speed it effects that space and lockdown ability is clearly unmatched in this game and I don't see 2 months going by without most of the relevant players using it. Unless arksys comes in and tears it down again, you're going to have to use that assist.

    If you're on the ground just doing ONE reflect as he's coming out pushes him away completely. No extra lockdown or anything. He's basically gone off one reflect. Vegeta, you're still dealing with shit.

    That tech seems kinda lame, i feel like if you just reflect it doesnt matter, and resets to neutral.

    That leaves a point I can bring up.Reflect already has its issues against pressure. It's for if you make a good read to start. You can't stay on the ground all day in this game so you have to put yourself in a position where you're telegraphing yourself heavily to use the reflect. Which Vegeta is the best assist to have any ways if you're worried about reflect since Vegeta assist gives you the most options to continue pressure if they do reflect. Most other assists if they get reflected are basically taken off the screen. With Vegeta assist you can still create pressure and counter measures even if they reflect.

    The reason people aren't abusing reflect is that it has to be done at a part of the screen where it's risky to stay at all the time any way and you can't cancel or call anything during it. It's a big commitment even if you can mash it once it connects. It's not like pushblock at all where you can always react and just use it. Especially in a vs style game where people can bait you to throw something out like that. You have to shut down your movement to make it worth using.