Why do people say Vegeta and 18 have short range? I mean sure they can't smack you from a mile away like 16 or Cell, but all their grounded mediums move them forward quite a bit and have good active frames.
Now Yamcha, THAT is a character with shitty mediums...
P.S. lol at the dude who downvoted anyone who disagreed with SonicFox.
His opinion about Vegeta seems to be a personal thing. "Every other good player and their mothers play Vegeta so I'm gonna be edgy and say he's actually bad".
Even if SonicFox is an amazing player, we know he loves to find out some broken shit of relatively underused or underestimated characters and make it work so well it they end up getting nerfed. Take anything he says about tiers with a grain of salt.
lol at Chris T's arguments. "I could play characters that can actually do stuff, but instead I'll complain about my own fair character that I want to be slightly better".
All good players ended up leaving their mains behind if they were not competitive and winning again tournaments, yet he still sticks to Ken and complain if he can't win with him. Either you accept being a casual that only wants to play his favorite character or you adapt.