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  • Re: Guilty Gear Xrd -REVELATOR- one of life's gilty pleasures

    I highly doubt DBZ will kill GG. For starters, the game looks/sounds like dumbed-down for the masses garbage, something DBZ fan boys will play for a few months and then forget. Second, GG players are very dedicated to the game, we have been playing for over a decade now...
  • Re: Guilty Gear Xrd -REVELATOR- one of life's gilty pleasures

    Ky to me is at an acceptable level. He's really fucking strong, but it's not over the top like with Chipp and Raven. Even with Chipp, he's obviously really strong, but he still has to approach through the air at predictable angles despite having low health, so you can blow him up if you're reading where he wants to go. His corner game is probably a bit too strong though. However, at least with Chipp it's only the corner where you die, Raven gets incredibly scary oki from anywhere on the screen, doesn't have to take as much risk in his approach, has more health, has a better conversion game, and has j.S (every bit as obnoxious as Chipp j.D) along with a laundry list of other godlike normals. He's for sure the strongest character in the game right now, even with his ostensible "bad" matchup with Chipp.

    With all that said I think they could fix him pretty easily. The big thing is that his normals need to be fixed (they fixed 2H, now they need to fix a few others). In addition to being too dominate, the hurtboxes are set in such a way that makes it almost impossible to defensively burst against Raven (one of the announcers at ArcRev was actually saying that a lot of top players have started to almost exclusively gold burst against Raven for that reason). That's a massive strength, and imo it's a bit much. I also think that he maybe shouldn't get a meterless confirm + kd off a throw considering how strong his oki is; just giving him a KD + time to toss a ball is fine. Anyone have any other ideas/criticism?
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  • Re: Guilty Gear Xrd -REVELATOR- one of life's gilty pleasures

    Raz0r wrote: »
    I still like Raven's 6P but yeah, it's not the best. Still, it covers his head completely and I still can get combos off of a normal hit depending on how they get hit. It tends to lead to a 5S into a jump combo into j. D where pressure can then be applied.

    I dunno why you guys keep responding to this ass clown who refuses to admit he doesn't know what he's talking about.

    It is one of the best in the game. 6P after his dash is basically full invul, it's one of the best counter poking tools in the game and requires a really hard call like backdash to beat it. It starts up in 9f and has 1-6f of upper body invul and 7-11f of above the knees invul, that's really good. As an anti air it really compliments his other amazing anti air tools well (5K, 5H, etc). Saying it is one of the worst 6Ps is ludicrous and speaks volumes to the kind of down playing that is taking place here
  • Re: Guilty Gear Xrd -REVELATOR- one of life's gilty pleasures

    Naeras wrote: »
    Naeras wrote: »
    Raven has nothing on Rev Johnny or SIGN Elphelt, and I think several other of the SIGN top tiers (Ram, Zato, Millia) were significantly scarier than Raven is now, too.

    Is it the fact that Raven is an easy character, while the others here are either intermediate or incredibly difficult to play?

    This is my biggest issue with him by far. Chipp is really strong (although not as strong as Raven), but he at least has some hard to learn execution techniques and still has to take risks in his approach while being really low health. Johnny requires a fair bit of executional prowess and the same can be said for El (she has a ton of character specific combos and doing her unblockables requires an intricate knowledge of wakeup timings among other things). Raven has none of those things. Even pre-patch Sin was less egregious than Raven. Raven is just way to simple, his oki/mixup is just too straight-forward strong; he's the easiest, most straight-forward character in the game while also being the strongest character in the game, which imo is terrible design and a really silly combination.

    However, I think you're wrong about some other stuff too. Ravens normals are virtually unchallengable too, he has the best normals in the game on the ground and in the air. Any hit he gets leads into a knockdown and then you have to guess (even off a so-called "bad" knockdown his pressure forces you to guess, and off a good knock down you literally guess high/low). He has the best fireball in the game and can play a solid keepaway, his neutral in general is really amazing. He's every bit as good as some of those characters you mentioned above. He's basically a turbo-charged version of Ky; Ky with a command grab, wayy better conversions, way better mixups, better neutral/normals, an invincible forward dash, ans a better fireball. His trade off is slightly worse defensive options, yet he still has one of the best metered reversals in the game. Not to add that this is all on the game's most simple character. It's just really fucking dumb, and like I said, it's bad design. If he had all that but required eddie execution then I literally wouldn't give a fuck
  • Re: Guilty Gear Xrd -REVELATOR- one of life's gilty pleasures

    Muttonman wrote: »
    Watched the finals in the morning, Ogawa was on fire. I had previously said that I thought Omito was the best current player, but goddamn that read on Venom.

    Shame about all the Chipps and Ravens in top 4 though, if only they were balanced!

    Neither SIGN nor Revelator Elphelt ever made a top 8 at Evo, yet this year we had a Raven and Chipp in top 8...