Dan Strategies and Match-ups

[Sugami]

Mix it up after the Dan Knee with throws, back dashes, Kouryukens (FADC'd preferably), EX Dankuu combo maybe even Focus Attacks (suggest Lv1 then back dash) and vertical jumps as well as the Knee "combo".

The corner is exactly where you want them, some characters have a nightmare getting out (Dhalsim for one) so you'll want to keep them there as long as possible.

There's also j.MK cross-up into combo or fake cross-up j.LK (might cross-up on certain characters depending on distance).

[ChuckBartowski]

Originally Posted by Sugami

Mix it up after the Dan Knee with throws, back dashes, Kouryukens (FADC'd preferably), EX Dankuu combo maybe even Focus Attacks (suggest Lv1 then back dash) and vertical jumps as well as the Knee "combo".

The corner is exactly where you want them, some characters have a nightmare getting out (Dhalsim for one) so you'll want to keep them there as long as possible.

There's also j.MK cross-up into combo or fake cross-up j.LK (might cross-up on certain characters depending on distance).

Thanks :) Also, can I do anything after an FADC Kouryuken?

[Krackatoa]

Originally Posted by ChuckBartowski

Thanks :) Also, can I do anything after an FADC Kouryuken?

Yes. If you watch Sanford in action, he always does a Neutral Jumping MP. You can also HK Danku (The last two hits juggle), but it's a tight link.

If you want a ridiculously tight link, you can also jump into an instant EX Danku...

The n.j.MP is the best bet, I would say, as it does a fair amount of damage compared to the other options, and you don't have to buffer mid-dash, making it safer if your opponent blocks the KRK.

[Sugami]

Yeah go for the n.j.MP, HK Dankuu link is just weird, think it's spacing dependant and stuff. When you land it you're at a good range to fly in with an EX Dankuu when you both land, it's so fast the only thing that'll (probably) beat it is a dragon punch (and lariat probably >.>) but they'd have to predict your attack, which is unlikely.

[Krackatoa]

What's the rough frame advantage on that? Do you have one on landing?

[Hawk]

Originally Posted by Krackatoa

If you want a ridiculously tight link, you can also jump into an instant EX Danku...

The link is that bad? It doesn't seem that way. I've had way more problems getting out the HK Danku juggle.

EDIT: Also, how the heck do I get out of G3? I've been stuck here for eons unable to find any matches whatsoever.

EDIT MK.II: A couple of things I forgot - Ultra off of reversal AA focus is probably the coolest shenanigan I've come across. Hard to set up for but so awesome when it lands. Also, what can I do after an AA KRK? The same options I have off of a FADC'd KRK? I've just been doing EX Gadoken for the amusement factor.

[Pasqual]

Here's the vid I promised a while back of Dan's jHK crossing up and linking to Ultra.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW0rrmaBKv8

Risky but it's there. Enjoy!

[Sugami]

Originally Posted by Krackatoa

What's the rough frame advantage on that? Do you have one on landing?

No idea, it's pretty impossible to tell :P You're still rising when you hit them but they still have to do that little mid-air flip before descending.

Originally Posted by Hawk

The link is that bad? It doesn't seem that way. I've had way more problems getting out the HK Danku juggle.

EDIT: Also, how the heck do I get out of G3? I've been stuck here for eons unable to find any matches whatsoever.

EDIT MK.II: A couple of things I forgot - Ultra off of reversal AA focus is probably the coolest shenanigan I've come across. Hard to set up for but so awesome when it lands. Also, what can I do after an AA KRK? The same options I have off of a FADC'd KRK? I've just been doing EX Gadoken for the amusement factor.

You just have to be quick with jumping and doing EX Dankuu like in Ken's Hard #5 trial but from what I've seen you only seem to land one hit so really not worth it.

That's why I got myself to G2 a while back, so won't be stuck with no one to play but I don't play Championship Mode anymore anyways :P

Reversal AA focus? If it is a reversal it'll break focus so I don't know what you're talking about x_x;; EX Kouryuken would do more damage than EX Gadouken but still not an aweful lot of added damage for the meter, I'd rather just use HP version as AA and not bother with the juggle. If you catch them almost directly above you you may be able to land a Dankuu, best to go with MK version in case you don't so they can't quick getup and hit you whilst you're still recovering.

Originally Posted by Pasqual

Here's the vid I promised a while back of Dan's jHK crossing up and linking to Ultra.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW0rrmaBKv8

Risky but it's there. Enjoy!

I imagine it's character specific too. You wouldn't link into Ultra unless you just jumped over a fireball and therefore knew the j.HK would land :P

[Hawk]

Originally Posted by Sugami

Reversal AA focus? If it is a reversal it'll break focus so I don't know what you're talking about x_x;;

I guess a counter hit then? What I'm referring to is when you smack somebody in the air with a focus attack and they're sent twirling away instead of just falling back.

[Kikuichimonji]

There are five things you can try after a lp koryu AA.

• EX Koryu for 60 damage, fairly reliable
• EX Gadouken for 60? damage, equally reliable
• Air EX Danku, I've never tried it
• Immediately HK Danku. Your lp koryu has to hit really meaty for this to work, though
• Neutral j.mp. I don't know if this connects with spacing though.
• Has anyone ever tried to do air hk danku? I wanna try that now.

[Pasqual]

Originally Posted by Sugami

I imagine it's character specific too. You wouldn't link into Ultra unless you just jumped over a fireball and therefore knew the j.HK would land :P

You are right, it is character specific, albeit the only character I know off the top of my head I couldn't get the link on was Seth. I used Dhalsim for the vid... because it's pretty easy on him, to be honest.

[Sugami]

Originally Posted by Hawk

I guess a counter hit then? What I'm referring to is when you smack somebody in the air with a focus attack and they're sent twirling away instead of just falling back.

That's just hitting them in the air with a Focus Attack. FA1 think they just plop to the ground, FA2 they spin a little and have juggle properties so it's possible to connect a Kouryuken if you're quick enough, FA3 makes them spin for miles and gives them "free juggle" properties allowing for Ultra to land otherwise it's easy to hit them with a Kouryuken.

Originally Posted by Kikuichimonji

There are five things you can try after a lp koryu AA.

• EX Koryu for 60 damage, fairly reliable
• EX Gadouken for 60? damage, equally reliable
• Air EX Danku, I've never tried it
• Immediately HK Danku. Your lp koryu has to hit really meaty for this to work, though
  
• Neutral j.mp. I don't know if this connects with spacing though.
• Has anyone ever tried to do air hk danku? I wanna try that now.
  

n.j.MP always connects, you just have to be quick on the timing but the spacing is fine.

Can't remember who said it but it's around these forums somewhere, when it comes to Dankuu juggles the first hit can't juggle but the second and third can. So the problem with trying to use air Dankuu other than EX is the first hit can't connect and obviously the follow-ups would be too slow to land :(

I'm hoping EX Kouryuken will allow both hits to juggle in SSF4 *shakes fist*