*The "padhacking" thread*

[TheRealNeoGeo]

I thought a padhackingthread should be started so that everybody can see where to solder on different pcb´s.
Also, please write a little under each of them so people understand what it all means in the picture (some pcb`s need resistors and stuff and everybody do not understand it).

http://arkadesticks.com/hackedpads/D...fficialpad.jpg
INFO: This is from the Official Dreamcast pad.

http://arkadesticks.com/hackedpads/PSOneDualShockH.jpg
INFO: Where to solder on a PSOne Dual Shock Serie "H" controller (On the back off the controller it says what series it is under "Made in China").

http://arkadesticks.com/hackedpads/w...and3.3volt.jpg
INFO: How to wire a PSOne-pad to buttons and Sanwa (or Seimitsu) joystick. It also showes where to solder to get 3.3Volt.

http://arkadesticks.com/hackedpads/XboxS-Pad.jpg
INFO: How to solder a Xbox S-Pad. On each wire (except the start and back) you solder you have to put a resistor on it.

http://arkadesticks.com/hackedpads/Xbox360wired.jpg
INFO: Where to solder on a Xbox360 (wired) pad.

PS: If a moderator could change the topic from "tread" to "thread" it would be nice, sorry my bad.

[Demon Dash]

Nice idea. Pad hacking is one area I've always wanted to venture (I say always, but I mean more since I got into sticks), but obviously lack of skills gets in the way. I'm happy with my knowledge of sticks atm, as far as wiring and general knowledge goes I'm perfectly fine. Hopefully in a couple of years I'll be on my way to cutting my own cases and soldering things my self, but right now it's way too much and far too expensive for me to get into.

[Som]

the black stuff that you colored blue and red... do you solder directly onto that? it doesn't stay on even if i put flux on it. or am i supposed to take that off somehow first?

[Rickstah]

Scrape the black stuff off with an exacto knife or something similar, and it should have a gold type of medal underneath it to which you can solder onto.

[Knuckledust]

Great idea, I'm glad this exists.

[Som]

alright thanks, im gonna try that

[pxldtz]

ill post pics up of the sf:ac pad later. i need to go buy a new cam first.

[nmbr1krush]

Thank you for this.

[leaveal]

great idea.

[final_cut]

Thanks, I'm gonna try that H-series hack this weekend. I always depend on someone else to do it for me. I didn't know that image even existed!

[Dj_Matrix]

lol... geo man i was just fixing to do this too... just got me a new sony t9 6.0mp camera and i was hacking like crazy... altho i dont do xbox so thats great man... good shit

[Paik4Life]

As usual, Per takes the initiative to help out the building community. A very comprehensive list of PCBs.

~Paik

[OngBak]

Paik, where do u buy your wires from? I'm looking for 26 gauge wire. My area don't have them.

[TheRealNeoGeo]

What xboxcontroller should one use when doing custom sticks you guys think? Pros and Cons?

[Paik4Life]

You know what I think, Per : )

Reflex Arcade:
Pros: Very easy hack. Everything is labeled. All buttons/directions have their own grounds. Can be done solderlessly. Headset functionality. Small PCB.

Cons: Harder to find controller. Rather expensive when you factor in shipping (about $20). Solder points are pretty small compared to easier hacks.

1st Party (Regular or S):
Pros: It's a first part PCB so optimal compatibility and reliability.

Cons: Both are rather hard to hack because of the triggers and small solder points. Also it is a lot more difficult to hack the memory card/headset slot. Also still very expensive PCB. A larger sized PCB.

Ongback: I don't buy 26 gauge wire. I'm assuming you looked at RadioShack. If you can't find it there, your best bet is to probably find it online like eBay or Vectorplus. I use 22 gauge and it's easily found at RadioShack in both solid and stranded in at least 3 different colors.

~Paik

[Demon Dash]

I dont think I'll actually be doing this now, but could someone tell me what I'd need and how much it would cost for a nice starter pack for hacking pads? I honestly don't know what I'd need besides a soldering iron.

[pxldtz]

TheRealNeoGeo:
i'm biased here. cause i simply love the sf:ac pad for xbox for pad hacking. i'll definately up some pics today of the inside of my pad. it's so super to hack and solder. NO ANALOG STICKS! makes for a VERY slim profile; so whether you decided to toss it in a project box or toss it into your stick casing, it's perfect. As a matter of fact, i suggest it for both xbox and ps. price is wicked aswell. $10.00USD.

Demon Dash
read above what i posted for TheRealNeoGeo. $10.00USD pad. $7.00USD Radioshack iron. $3.00 solder. i used a 30watt iron. also, spilt solder on this pad is very easy to clean up.


to everyone
i forgot to mention that the headset slot is easy as well. cutting the pins and extending them is no problem at all.

[pxldtz]

as promised. the inside of the sf:ac pad for xbox.

with some simple diagrams i put in.

http://www.disillusioned-inc.org/sfacpad_dpad.png
http://www.disillusioned-inc.org/sfacpad_button.png

remember to zoom in. (that is, if your browser scales them down.)

sorry it took so long. my friend gave me his old sony mavica 3.2 camera. no one sells mini cdrws anymore. and this camera can't be hooked up to just take pics an transfered. so i had to buy some minicdrs (sucks cause i can't erase).

but the pics came out wicked clear :)

[BIG BEEF!]

Anyone got a pic of a PS controller M

[TheRealNeoGeo]

pxldtz
Does that controller have memorycardport on the top of it?

[pxldtz]

TheRealNeoGeo
actually no. the memory card port is on the bottom. like the xbox360 control.
i'm going to be doing another box this week strictly for xbox. so no db25 adapter on it. i'll take pics of how i wire up the headset/memory port.

[TheRealNeoGeo]

pxldtz
How is it with other games on xbox, works 100%? Does it work emulatorgames played on xbox also?
Oh, so it is possible to talk with headset when playing LIVE on it?
And when you hack it you do not need resistors like on the usual Xboxpad and Xbox S-Pad?

[pxldtz]

TheRealNeoGeo

i haven't tested it on other games really. I tested it on that Outrun game, but the game itself wouldn't go past the LOADING screen with the control plugged (before the soldering in retail condition) so i'm guessing that games that actually need the sticks will have problems. so any games that don't work with the actual sf:ac stick won't work with this i guess.

it's good for emulators no problems. there's only ONE THING that i don't really like. since there are no thumbsticks, you can't press r.thumb to bring up the menu (90% of emulators on xbox use this button to bring up the ingame menu i havent checked if this can be changed.) i have a separate control in player 3's slot for this so its not a very big problem.
well i play on xlinkKAI (modded xboxes get banned from live) and the headset works fine.
so it wouldn't be any different than live. it would work fine on there to.
no resistors needed at all. drop-solder-plug-n-play. the triggers are pure digital not pressure sensitive or analog.
if you have any more questions go ahead and ask. i'll be happy to answer.

[Stellarola]

I hacked a couple Madcatz microcon controllers. I'd say those were the easiest pads to hack ever. I only did the xbox ones, maybe the ps2 one is just as easy. It has huge holes in the pcb to solder to and has a shared ground. Nothing better than that!

[pxldtz]

Stellarola

do you have any pics of this pad hacked and soldered? price? availability? anything special needed like adding resistors? ( ie. like the oem xb control ) or is it straight solder and thats it?
i'm trying to pick up as many hackable pads as possible before all the xbox ones disappear.

and yes, a shared ground is awesome :)