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    The Old Arcana HYPE Thread - S! AH2 comes out in 2 weeks, RIP AH1

    LOL!! Stay hungry for DAT MWC, along with AH2 in majors hopefully.

    http://guardcrush.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page - The Arcana Wikipedia
    IRC Channel - EFnet #Arcana
    PS2 Menu Translation - Thanks to Zakuta
    Color Chart

    Since the other thread had a ton of posts and too much clutter, with the news announced, i figured it's best we create a new thread with more information at the beginning. Here we go:

    What is Arcana Heart?
    -Arcana Heart is a 2D fighting game created by Yuki. It was released in Japanese arcades December 22nd 2006.

    What kind of characters are in Arcana Heart?
    -It involves a cast of only females. For more information on the characters, check out this link here:
    http://www.examu.co.jp/arcanaheart/chara.html
    and
    http://arcanaheart.sakura.ne.jp/index.html - Where it says the names of the characters, it shows their moves

    How do you play the game, and what are the notations while you're at it?
    -Everything is done in the number notation. Here's what it is:
    u/b u u/f
    b - n - f
    d/b d d/f

    translates into

    789
    456
    123

    A = Light
    B = Mid
    C = Strong
    D = Homing Button

    66 = Dash Forward
    44 = Backdash
    66 in the air = Air Dash Forward
    44 in the air = Air Dash Backwards
    7_8_9 = Jump
    7_8_9 in the air = Double Jump
    27_28_29 = Super Jump
    866 = Instant Air Dash (also shortened to iad or IAD)
    A+D = Throw (can usually be followed up into a combo, but has a somewhat large break window)
    6A+D = Alternate throw (can't be followed up into a combo, but has a small break window)
    A+D (at time of getting thrown) = Throw Break

    There is air blocking, but certain moves cannot be blocked in the air.

    What does the homing button do?
    -It has 4 purposes:
    1) Homing Cancel (abbreviated to HC), you can cancel your moves with the D button to create a Homing cancel (provided you use one homing bar of your homing gauge). This has a couple uses, you can use it to continue combo's by cancelling the recovery time of moves. You can also use it to turn a normally unsafe move into advantage by cancelling the recovery on it. These two are the main uses for homing cancels. As for the notation, if something is written HC6, then you homing cancel forward.
    2) GC = Guard Cancel, while guarding, you can use the D button to cancel through and cancel the blockstun. Similar to Homing Cancels, GC6 is guard cancel forward, GC4 is guard cancel backwards. If you guard cancel forward (depending on your arcana choice, but we'll not get into that now), a red shield that clashes the opponents attacks pops up in front of you as you charge forward. If you guard cancel backwards, your character takes a jump back (meaning it'll go over lows) and then if you don't cancel the jump back in the air (only certain moves can be cancelled in this way), your character will automatically run forward after she's done with the jump back.
    3) Movement. You can use the D button to do movements that you couldnt normally do. If you hold down the D button and your opponent is on the other side of the screen, you'll fly toward your opponent, literally. If you hold down forward and D, you'll dash along the ground, 4D will do a quick backdash, but like a guard cancel backwards, will send your characters with a forward dash after that.
    4) Arcana usage - to be explained below

    Can you explain the homing gauge a bit more in depth?
    -There are two different effects of using a homing bar. If you use a homing cancel or a guard cancel, one bar of your homing gauge gets "X"ed out.
    -If you use the D button to move or you tech off the ground or wall, it takes one bar of your homing gauge, but does not X it out.

    How do i get my homing bars back then?
    -There are 2 ways, one is to activate your arcana that you get once a round. This replinishes your homing gauge fully, and can only be done once a round.
    -The only other way is time. If your homing bar is Xed out, then you have to wait for the X to disappear before your bar can begin to recover. Once the X disappears, your bar will begin to regenerate until it is full. Then it works on the next bar until your gauge is full. Now bars regenerate anytime you DONT use a homing cancel or guard cancel. If you're sitting there doing nothing, it'll recover (even if it doesnt look like it when the X bars are there, theyre indeed recovering). If you're hitting the opponent, if youre getting hit, your bar will recover. However, once you use a homing cancel if you're comboing the opponent, your bar will not recover for the duration of the combo.

    What is an "Arcana"?
    -An Arcana is something that you choose after you select your character. They're all "themed" (ex, fire, water, dark, death, etc) and each do different things, whether it be give a fireball to your character, or the ability to teleport or set out traps on the ground. There are three main parts to an arcana choice:
    1) Moves. They each have their own movelist that's done with the D button. The stone one has a 41236D move thats a big stone punch. The leaf one has a 236D which is a vine hit forward. The fire one has fireballs. The lighting one has lightning strikes. etc. All specials are done with the D button. However, some arcana's have things that they give to the character that isn't a direct attack. An example is that Partineas, the Love arcana has a special ability that if you double jump in the air and then hold [8], you'll float down as opposed to falling at normal speed. This is just one such example.
    2) Supers. In addition to regular attacks, they each have their own special super. It takes one bar for each of these as well, just like a regular super. All Supers are done with the D button.
    3) Arcana summons. In Arcana activated mode, done with A+B+C, which acts as a burst and will get you out of MOST attacks (not during the middle of supers, but any other time, yes). During this time, your special bar depletes and during this time, each arcana has a different "effect" that is linked below. In addition, you can summon the actual arcana itself with 236A+B+C. This differs depending on which one you choose. Some of them are a one time grab and its either hit or miss, others are a giant attack on the screen, etc. They're all different. Using that uses up the rest of your special bar, whether you had 9 bars left or half of your last bar left, it will drain it and do the same damage.
    For a list of the arcana's and what they do, go to the same link as before:
    http://arcanaheart.sakura.ne.jp/index.html
    Under the characters is the arcana section. Here's the translation of the links in order (some of the names of the arcanas might be a little off, but its something like that):
    Love arcana Partineas
    Electricity arcana Bhanri
    Time arcana Anutpuda
    Wood arcana Moriomoto
    Earth arcana Otsuchi
    Fire arcana Lang Gong
    Wind arcana Tempestras
    Dark arcana Gier
    Evil arcana Dieu Mort
    Water arcana Niptra
    Steel arcana Orochalekos
    And as promised from above:
    What each arcana does after the A+B+C activation

    Any other things i should know?
    -As i mentioned earlier, if you do A+D to throw the opponent, you can follow up with a combo (for most characters) if you use a homing bar, but the break window is much larger than if you throw with A+D. Hence why when watching vids, you might see more players using 6 or 4A+D instead of the other one that does more damage.
    -Clashing properties: Thanks to someAzNdude for this post
    -When you tech off the ground or off a wall, you are invulnerable to attacks, but very vulnerable to throws. However, after you tech, you can do special and super moves almost immediatly off the ground.
    Moves that are unblockable in the air (thanks again to someAzNdude for the list, i just edited a couple things):
    All 3Cs and 6Cs are air unblockable no matter which character is using it.
    Certain characters have air unblockables other than 3/6C
    Mei Fang, Yoriko, and Konoha has 6B
    Kamui has 3B
    Kira has 2B, 5B, 5C
    Maori has 623A
    Fiona has 623AB
    Love Arcana 236A+B+C activation super

    Wow, sounds awesome! Console port anytime soon?
    Sabin Edit - PS2 RELEASE WAS ANNOUNCED BY ATLUS TODAY - COMING OUT IN THE USA 4/08/08. GET LOLI!!!!!!!!!

    -Why yes, in fact, it was just announced that OCTOBER 11th, 2007 for the JAPANESE PS2 is the release date of the game. For more info, go to the Offical Arcana Heart PS2 Site
    And also on October 11th, the Official Hori Arcana Heart Joystick comes out as well.
    Opening movie to PS2 version:
    will update shortly

    Whats this i hear about Arcana Heart and Arcana Heart Full? What's the difference?
    -Arcana Heart Full is an update to Arcana Heart that was released around April. Because it was about $800, some arcade operators did not recieve it. The difference comes down to balance differences for the characters, and a training mode in the arcade version. There's a few graphical differences, such as the pictures of the characters under their names and the color of the clock, but not much else.
    For a list of all the changes, check out this post

    So which one is the console version going to be?
    -The console version will be Arcana Heart Full, but will give the option to use the regular Arcana Heart versions of characters. Most likely, all tournaments will be run on Full only, though.

    Any other console information? Translation, etc?
    -Translation: Right here in this post

    Well, until then, is there any place i could go to play it outside of Japan?
    -Sure, Chinatown Fair in NYC has an Arcana Heart Full machine,
    University Pinball in Philadelphia now has an Arcana Heart Full machine, Arcade Infinity in California has an Arcana Heart machine, and Planet Zero in Houston has an Arcana Heart Full machine. Also, lovegety in Toronto has a Regular Arcana Heart machine.

    Story?
    Overall story still not translated. So far (thanks to Orka) the only character who has a translated story so far is:
    Fiona Mayfield

    Match Vids?
    http://youtube.com/user/arcanaarcana is a good source for vids for people to watch. However, they haven't added a new vid in 2 months, but they have many good vids on their site.
    Other sources for vids:
    http://www.youtube.com/user/tokinomiyarei
    http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=PIANIST999
    http://www.youtube.com/user/ftnr18
    http://youtube.com/user/henvoke recently put up some vids

    IRC Channel?
    #arcana on efnet - We consistently have at least 35-40 people in there. If you have any questions or just wanna talk about arcana, head in there. Many of the regulars in this thread frequent that channel.

    Anywhere else to go?
    http://www.guardcrush.net/forums/index.php? - A small forum with a bit of arcana info
    http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=121441 - The old legendary Arcana thread.
    http://guardcrush.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page - The Arcana Wikipedia

    Tier List?
    - Long story short, arcana is too hard to tier. Arcana's make a huge difference. However, it's widely agreed that in the original AH, that the 3 K's make the top three characters, Konoha, Kamui, Kira. For top tier Full, the Japanese players tend to think Lieselotte is top tier, but after that, it really gets fuzzy because any of the characters are really good. However its widely agreed that Fiona and Yoriko are at the bottom (theres almost no question about this one), but that doesn't necisarilly make them unplayable, or unable to win with them. They just take a bit more effort because their damage output is low for the risk involved with the character. Everyone else in between is just that - somewhere in between. Keep in mind the arcana selection also makes a huge difference to some characters. Having a top tier character but a bad arcana can lose to a lower tier character with a good arcana. I will say this though:
    The game is balanced enough where you can play whatever character you want to and still win.
    Those wondering who the top is so they can play them and win, its not that easy. Those wondering if their character is gonna be bottom tier, don't worry, you'll be fine with whoever you pick as long as they match how you play. So stop asking about tiers and just play who you want to. You'de be better off watching videos to see how characters play instead of looking at a small list that says which characters are better than which. =P
    edit: It doesnt look like people understand the concept of:
    The game is balanced enough where you can play whatever character you want to and still win.

    You can ignore everything i wrote about tiers up above as long as you look at this. Ill say it again:
    The game is balanced enough where you can play whatever character you want to and still win.


    Character Specific info:
    HeartNana's Lilica Bread and Butter Combo explanation
    HeartNana's Lilica arcana evaluation

    What's this i hear about a fan-disk?
    -8/17/2007 is the release of the first (assuming there are more) Arcana Heart Fan-disk. The contents of the disk are located in this post

    Other info:
    Lingo and other abbreviations (or nicknames given):
    AH = Arcana Heart
    AHF = Arcana Heart Full
    236X = 236A, B, or C, no difference in which button used. The 236 is just an example, but the X means any of A,B or C can be used for the move.
    KSD = Kira Sama Driver - Her 360 spin the joystick throw (Thanks to Saotome Kaneda for this one)
    Anal Beads = The Earth Arcana (Otsuchi) 41236D punch (Thanks to Saotome Kaneda for this one)
    FS = Flash Step, Lilica's instant cancel, click on the Bread and Butter combo link above for an explanation
    GuruGuru Punch = Heart's 236A+B
    Pentagram = Yoriko's 632146X
    Spike = The Nickname of Yoriko's staff - Miche
    Oppai Robo = Mei Fang
    Oppai Smash = Mei Fang's air 1236X
    Robo Tackle = Mei Fang's 623A+B
    Sister Drop = Maori's 22X
    Nee-San = Maori's 421X
    Dash Punch = Konoha's 623X
    Water Bubbles = Niptra (water arcana)'s 214X or 214A+B floaty bubbles
    Fire Super = Lang Gong (fire arcana's) 632146D
    Boomerang = Tempestras (wind arcana's) 236D
    Push Block = Tempestras (wind arcana's) 6D while blocking


    Super Battle Opera Qualifiers List (English)
    Suber Battle Opera Qualifiers List (Japanese)
    More to be added soon...if there's anything you have questions about, please post in the thread and and one of us will do what we can to answer it.

    http://guardcrush.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page - The Arcana Wikipedia
    Last edited by Sabin; 07-23-2008 at 07:55 PM. Reason: usa ps2 release
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    I'm first in here!!!!

    Who is the sword chick?I didnt bother watching match vids as of yet but with the impending realease I better get my knowledge up.

    EDIT:HeartNana, link the old thread too because that one is just too legendary to forget.
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    Good thread. Excited about the news of Arcana Heart to PS2. Those that know me know that this is my kind of game.

    P.S. Her name is Kamui.
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    yes! its coming to the ps2. i want to play this game so badly but theres none around here.
    Strategy Zone lurker

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    Whether this topic is needed or not, first post is very good/helpful.
    Originally posted by Sabin:

    voted for mbaa at evo guys

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    This game looks more animu than Melty Blood. This is AWFUL.

    p.s. H.Nana WHY ARE YOU NOT GOING TO EVO! RAWR
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    95,000+ views. I'm gonna miss the old thread. But at the same time I guess this is gonna make people on SRK more aware of the ps2 port, and thats a good thing.

    You fuckers better all jump on this when console release drops, dont let our hard work be for nothing! :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by altergenesis View Post
    Good thread. Excited about the news of Arcana Heart to PS2. Those that know me know that this is my kind of game.

    P.S. Her name is Kamui.
    Thanks man....Now the only thing I have to do now is develop a scene for this game in my area. Easier said than done.

    EDIT:
    Quote Originally Posted by Sabin View Post
    95,000+ views. I'm gonna miss the old thread. But at the same time I guess this is gonna make people on SRK more aware of the ps2 port, and thats a good thing.

    You fuckers better all jump on this when console release drops, dont let our hard work be for nothing! :)
    I cant speak for everyone, but I do appreciate all you guys hard work. I think no one was hardcore enough to care because there was literaly like 4 places you had to be to play it. A new game for consoles that's been in the arcades is kind of a big deal. Here's to hoping this makes it into evo next year.
    Fuck you people.

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    i think the one in richmond, Canada is Regular last time i checked

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    Quote Originally Posted by shijui View Post
    i think the one in richmond, Canada is Regular last time i checked
    They didn't update it yet? I haven't been there since the second week after they first got it, which was a long time ago. =x
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    I haven't played this game yet but will I be able to pick this up at an American game store ever?
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    POSTING IN LEGENDARY THREAD


    The other one will probably get closed soon.











    EDIT: 6[C]
    Last edited by Saotome Kaneda; 07-05-2007 at 01:20 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PARKER C.MURDOCK View Post
    I haven't played this game yet but will I be able to pick this up at an American game store ever?
    Most likely not, unless that american game store sells imports.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeartNana View Post
    Most likely not, unless that american game store sells imports.
    that sucks, i guess I'll have to get back on play-asia.
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    Goal in October: Order Jap PS2 and Arcana Heart. Finally, I can lust over the characters from the safety of my own bedroom.

    Not that I don't do that already.

    I mean I don't.

    I mean-
    Your arguments are invalid, I drowned a shark.

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    I didn't knew people actually played Arcana Heart!!

    Every time I go the arcade to play AH, nobody plays it at all!!

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    So the PS2 version is AH or AHF! ?
    What is there not to know?¿?

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    We have no knowledge yet if its Full or not.

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    There's no reason for them to make the PS2 version NOT AHF.

    Gorehound - people play it, just not in Cali, it seems, since nobody ever hears anything from them. Most of the people that are on here who play are:
    NY/EC area
    Texas/LA area
    Foreigners in Japan or were in Japan
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    I'll likely be accepting money matches from everyone starting around october 13th.

    It won't be the same without someone asking when the ps2 release is coming out every other page.....................or will it?

    When's the ps2 release?
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    im in this thread


    also dont forget about my HOW TO PLAY ARCANA HEART!!!!! video tutorial

    people need to step their shit up and start playin once console release comes .. no excuses!!
    http://www.youtube.com/user/woofycakes

    wacth my vids

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    Quote Originally Posted by woof View Post
    im in this thread


    also dont forget about my HOW TO PLAY ARCANA HEART!!!!! video tutorial

    people need to step their shit up and start playin once console release comes .. no excuses!!
    What if we have a good excuse like working 11 months a year on the other side of the planet where you might get shot every day and no one else plays video games or something? I know it's kind of a weak excuse but hey, I can try.
    Your arguments are invalid, I drowned a shark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faight View Post
    What if we have a good excuse like working 11 months a year on the other side of the planet where you might get shot every day and no one else plays video games or something? I know it's kind of a weak excuse but hey, I can try.
    cant hear you
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    wacth my vids

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faight View Post
    What if we have a good excuse like working 11 months a year on the other side of the planet where you might get shot every day and no one else plays video games or something? I know it's kind of a weak excuse but hey, I can try.
    stop pwning plz
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saotome Kaneda View Post
    stop pwning plz
    Get deployed to the sandbox so we can play Arcana Heart. Please. <3
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