6th Loketest Report

[Kunai]

Hi. Saturday is done.

No new characters or stages at the loketest. No whining plz.

10 game win limit imposed for this loketest.

Basic gameplay is the same. Revenge meter builds as you take damage OR if you eat an attack with Saving Attack. Remember when I said that it was worthless to eat stuff like fireballs with SA if you can easily avoid them, 2 loketests ago? Well, now it may be worth it to eat one occasionally to build your Revenge Meter.

Cancelling a regular or special move to Saving Attack still takes 2 EX Stocks, or 1/2 a Super Bar.

Dictator is slightly nerfed... scissors kick puts him in a distance where he can't continue to poke you. Torpedo seems more punishable. ONE MAJOR FLAW THAT STILL NEEDS TO BE FIXED: Dictator's super (Knee Press Nightmare) - After he does his two scissors kicks, his slide will hit but PASS THROUGH the opponent when blocked. Unless he is sliding towards the corner at the end of his super, he cannot be punished because he will be too far away. Hopefully, someone will fix this because it's pretty glaring. I mean, when people block his regular slide, he will not pass through and he can be punished easily.

Dictator is still a bastard because of his Devil's Reverse stuff and easy shorts-to-scissors kick or super. But the nerfs prevent him from being too unpunishable. If they fix his super, he will be OK, but he's still pretty high-tier because of his priority of moves and his attack range.

C.Viper is still crap, unfortunately... it's confirmed that her EX Thunder Knuckle does not have superarmor. Will try to see if you can pass through fireballs with the move, but I doubt it. I will play with that some more tomorrow. She dies to runaway players, like Dictator and Claw IMO, because it's hard to close the distance when she is not within sweep range. She still needs more... definitely something that can help her when an opponent is further than sweep range.

I hope they tweak the other three newcomers... otherwise they are just fodder for the old schoolers to practice their combos. Abel is the only one who has a ton of potential to be great, IMO.

I am friggin tired so I will log off for now.

[SN3S]

Originally Posted by Kunai

Hi. Saturday is done.

I am friggin tired so I will log off for now.

1. Good, now the SA isn't like insta-meter building like parries were.

2. God damn, a super that you can't punish well if you block it? That's bullocks.

3. Poor viper; she really sounds like Alex now, but with even less of a long-range game. Hopefully you can pass through fireballs with it, because that'd give her a bit more options... So far I really want to play as the newcomers, but they don't seem like they'll offer much beyond a fun play every now and again.

Thanks for the news man, we appreciate it.

Too much power indeed...

[COUM]

What worries me is that, given the arcade version is confirmed to have gone gold, the fact that there's even another loke presumably means updates are going to be patched into the game over the internet. Seeing as patching a console game isn't such a simple process (it costs A LOT to patch a game over XBL thanks to MS fees), this doesn't bode well for console/arcade agreement, unless the updates to the arcade version are going to be very rare...

[Dwin]

I don't understand why Viper was nerfed in the first place. This news doesn't bode well for the newcomers.

[Cyrox]

Originally Posted by SN3S

2. God damn, a super that you can't punish well if you block it? That's bullocks.

Too much power indeed...

Well, they are in 3s aswell. A bunch of supers can only be punished in certain situations like Ibuki's SA1, Necro magnetic storm, fireball supers and so on.

[Kaepora]

What, no Akuma? I thought Capcom had him confirmed!

[Azrael]

Kunai, you're a beast for going up to Tokyo for more SF4. Sorry to hear that Viper is still as threatening as a treasure troll though. Did they at least make her ultra not totally sucky?

Originally Posted by COUM

What worries me is that, given the arcade version is confirmed to have gone gold, the fact that there's even another loke presumably means updates are going to be patched into the game over the internet. Seeing as patching a console game isn't such a simple process (it costs A LOT to patch a game over XBL thanks to MS fees), this doesn't bode well for console/arcade agreement, unless the updates to the arcade version are going to be very rare...

In the latest interview, Ono says that he's going to observe what happens with the arcade version and then made changes/adjustments for the home version. So the home version you buy will essentially be the patched arcade version right out of the box. It doesn't really seem like he's wanting to promote the arcade version all that much - almost like the arcade version itself will be one big global loketest.

[shatterstar]

nerfed Viper = angry shatta.

[blazeu25]

Originally Posted by Azrael

Kunai, you're a beast for going up to Tokyo for more SF4. Sorry to hear that Viper is still as threatening as a treasure troll though. Did they at least make her ultra not totally sucky?


In the latest interview, Ono says that he's going to observe what happens with the arcade version and then made changes/adjustments for the home version. So the home version you buy will essentially be the patched arcade version right out of the box. It doesn't really seem like he's wanting to promote the arcade version all that much - almost like the arcade version itself will be one big global loketest.

thats pretty cool imo. bc alot more ppl gona play the home version anyways so i support that

[Hatred Edge]

Hopefully Viper is improved as well as the other new comers.

[SN3S]

Originally Posted by Cyrox

Well, they are in 3s aswell. A bunch of supers can only be punished in certain situations like Ibuki's SA1, Necro magnetic storm, fireball supers and so on.

Well true, but none of the 3S supers really put the person who whiffed it in a good position. (E.G. Alex's SAII, the bounce from blocking it pushes both chars like 1/3rd of the screen away from each other)

So if that's the case with Bison, it's not all that bad, but from my initial reaction, it seems as if he can have the super blocked, then end up behind the person and follow up easily.

Originally Posted by shatterstar

nerfed Viper = angry shatta.

As well as an angry SN3S and Kunai...

We gonna have to smack someone methinks

[azis]

Thanks a lot, Kunai.

Is Seth the boss? Is he present on the 1p cabinet?

[Gutter Trash]

if you guys played as Boxer, did you test out the Four Dash attacks ?

Charge b, f +P
Charge b, f +K
Charge b, df +P
Charge b, df +K

because in that captivate video, he did a Dashing Overhead, I just wanted to know which command it is and which old move is getting replaced.

thanks peoples!!

[sonicguile]

Originally Posted by Kaepora

What, no Akuma? I thought Capcom had him confirmed!

i think he a hidden character

[Stuart Hayden]

Or he's just not in the game.

[PUffy2k316]

I don't think they just wouldn't put him in. He's too important at this point.

[Jinrai]

You might have to hold the punch button to get the overhead rush, like Q.

[Lvl.3]

Originally Posted by Azrael

Kunai, you're a beast for going up to Tokyo for more SF4. Sorry to hear that Viper is still as threatening as a treasure troll though. Did they at least make her ultra not totally sucky?


In the latest interview, Ono says that he's going to observe what happens with the arcade version and then made changes/adjustments for the home version. So the home version you buy will essentially be the patched arcade version right out of the box. It doesn't really seem like he's wanting to promote the arcade version all that much - almost like the arcade version itself will be one big global loketest.

So they're not going to have 'patches' for the arcade version, and leave as is? If the arcade version has problems (like Bison Super) and not fix it, that might not only discourage the casual and hardcore gamer from playing at the arcade, but from buying the home version too.

Originally Posted by StuartHayden

Or he's just not in the game.

Akuma and the rest of the HC charactes really need to have some testing done on them. I hope the HC versions will be upgradeable/patchable. Who knows what other broken shit has yet to be discovered in the arcade version.

[Jimmy Bones]

Oh well for the first time, i'll be playing a new SF game without Akuma.
Sounds cool to me.

[capcom2d.com]

Originally Posted by Kaepora

What, no Akuma? I thought Capcom had him confirmed!

I don't think Akuma was ever officially comfirmed, it's all just fans saying he "has to" be in it. Like people were saying Cammy "has to" be in the game and "pretty much confirmed" when she wasn't in the slightest.

It sucks Viper is so low, she's my favorite new design and i think her model looks the best out of the whole cast.

[kariido]

Thanks for the report Kunai.

I am somewhat saddened about the turnout of this loketest. Oh well, Capcom still have time to polish and balance the game before it hits other ports.

[AdverseSolutions]

Wow so they go to a trouble of designing a new character (C. Viper), putting her in the opening movie etc. but she loses to everyone. What's the point?

[Stuart Hayden]

Originally Posted by AdverseSolutions

Wow so they go to a trouble of designing a new character (C. Viper), putting her in the opening movie etc. but she loses to everyone. What's the point?

Alex. =D

[RagingStormX]

Truthfully bison,s super is fine, I prefer him to go thru. In other games his Knee press nightmare left him safe and in a position to keep poking, I cant think of any game where that super wasnt safe except the lvl cvs2 version, all other versions were safe.

[SN3S]

Originally Posted by StuartHayden

Alex. =D

I'm aight with that though, becuase I main Alex in 3rd strike.

So long as I put up a fight, eh?