Warriors Fate: Street Fighter story thread, revived

[vasili10]

Thanks Vasili.

According to Sagat's ending, from what is said:


Sagat

Immediately after Seth was defeated, Sagat realizes himself that in the midst of battle with Ryu, they were both talking together through their fists. In order to make sure of how much his own self changed, he resolves to fight with Ryu again.

Can this mean he fought Ryu for their rematch, only to want to fight him again? Unless I missed something but it looks like there was no victor from their battle.

Sure thing.

Possibly; I can't be sure about this one, as I can't tell if Sagat's realization is from his battle with brainwashed Ryu or from them actually meeting and fighting later on when they're both clear-headed and much less prideful of themselves. The console versions will hopefully help out here if the arcade ending script doesn't.

[Sano]

Akiman's girls of the month for the last two months of Gamaga magazine! As usual I have no idea who they are.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...Akioctober.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...kinovember.jpg

[vasili10]

Akiman's girls of the month for the last two months of Gamaga magazine! As usual I have no idea who they are.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...Akioctober.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...kinovember.jpg

Pastel from Pop'n Twinbee & Hatsune Miku from Hatsune Miku Project Diva (assumed name*)

*In other words the game's yet to be released, and it's title's subject to change.

[Sano]

Hey that was fast! Thanks again!

[vasili10]

Hey that was fast! Thanks again!

Sure thing. Y'know, just noticed, clicked, found, posted, happened to shortly after you did, that's all.

[Kataklysmic]

Rose has been confirmed! The one Zero character we should give a damn about is in!!!

http://img377.imageshack.us/my.php?image=n82009cy1.jpg

C'mon Ono, you said there'd be unlockables! Put Ibuki and Elena in this bastard and you'll do Kinu's Famitsu cover justice! http://img253.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sf4magzdb5.jpg

[True Tatsu]

Rose has been confirmed! The one Zero character we should give a damn about is in!!!

http://img377.imageshack.us/my.php?image=n82009cy1.jpg

C'mon Ono, you said there'd be unlockables! Put Ibuki and Elena in this bastard and you'll do Kinu's Famitsu cover justice! http://img253.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sf4magzdb5.jpg

well hope against hope, there could be 4 unlockable SF3 members behind the 4 SFA members (like Makoto, Ibuki, ???, Oro)

I just wouldn't hold my breath

As for Rose... she could be...

Spoiler for :

Abel's baby momma, poor Remy

[The_Shakunetsu]

Wow rose was in. Ultima got one of his speculation to be in. Yet there's still one random select that is not occupied.

[True Tatsu]

Wow rose was in. Ultima got one of his speculation to be in. Yet there's still one random select that is not occupied.

perhaps it is the one random select... or charlie/shadow

hmm... wonder if Ultima knows his site is down today?

[Rokiseph]

Balrog doesn't used Ki just raw power in his attacks, at lest i think he doesn't use Ki.

Good, you actually understand his usage of Ki somewhat.

I would actually say it this way, he is *very* untrained in his use of Ki.

You won't see him doing a what is seemingly a light move to destroy a large piece of a wall. He would always need to prepare and make big movements to break it apart.

Someone like Gen or Gouki could however, just Do a simple looking blow with their fist on a portion of the wall, but you can still see it breaking the same, because they know how to channel their qi. Oh wait, ok, think Ayers Rock.

In martial arts, People would deem Balrog as more of a External stylist, him using more of his muscles, and unintentionally chanelling qi if he ever does so.

People who look at Gouki would say he is comparatively more of an internal Martial artist. And You could look at Gen and say that he is Even more so one (Although at this point, Gouki having more muscles is mo0t because we're just talking about usage of Ki). They're the real qi masters here.

a random list of External to internal style, for people who understand this concept, would be like this.

Balrog -> Dan -> Ken -> Ryu -> Gouki <?> Gen.

[vasili10]

First up on the Zero 3 offerings, Karin collaborations from the SFZ3 Gamest mook. These require a little Final Fight 1989 year-type adjusting, since Karin is 16 alongside Sakura as will be shown later on.

Lady Karin's Secrets ~special chapter~

199X, January 1, Karin grasped the magnificent "scorned eye". But, with bundling gaps of daily repose. From Daigen Juurou "Never mind looking hard at the earth!" were the riddled words announced. This from having been born as a girl to the Kanzuki house, it is to say that if she doesn't charm at minimum 5,000 people of the world's gentlemen she cannot inherit the family headship, the true final training Kanzuki house ultimate hidden mystery "graceful pupil" is the so-called subject she would master. Incidentally her mother, Nadeshiko is said to have charmed 50,046 gentlemen.

Lady Karin's Secrets ~that first~nativity chapter~

197X, September 15, a supersized typhoon directly hit the Kantou region, observing in the open sea that one miniature archipelago a magnitude of more than 5, with victory for a certain pro baseball team for the first time in ten some years? she was raised with both arms this day, Kanzuki Karin. This existence receives life. Her father being Kanzuki Daigen Juurou had wished for a wholesome son, a daughter's birth a discouragement. But with a word of "Karin is to be reared as a son" uttered, it's serious so to speak.

Lady Karin's Secrets ~that second~childhood chapter~

198X, July 25, Kanzuki Karin (time of age 9). Passing with only a small quantity of water and food, she's thrown into Fuji's sea of deep forests. This being a tradition formerly of the Kanzuki house, if she cannot return safely, as heir she would disqualify from establishing the fortune. It is assuredly that it's one rigorous pursuit of knowledge. Her father, Daigen Juurou thinking of suffering more than 2 weeks from his own experience, chose as the time Karin's summer vacation but, merely 4 days she had come to safely return.

Lady Karin's Secrets ~that third~blossoming chapter~

199X, April 19, even 50 heads of bulls roaring noisily around in the streets! At that place Kanzuki Karin (time of age 14) happened to be present, impressively she stills 50 heads of wild bulls. A seemingly unbelievable incident but, the fact was that actually Kanzuki Daigen Juurou arranged the so-called "wild bull fifty line" training. To the fulfiller of this, it is said would be the passing down ritual of the wealth to inherit in the Kanzuki house.
Being a digression, several tens of years before Daigen Juurou even contended for this trial, 49 heads it seems were worn out.

Lady Karin's Secrets ~last part~space chapter~

199X, June 30, Kanzuki Karin (time of age 15), is beyond the scope of the atmosphere with the Kanzuki house's private use space shuttle Cerise 8. This being for the sake of learning the Kanzukiryu public skill inner mystery "scorned eye", from beyond the scope of the atmosphere to overlook the earth to say a lie seems to be a truly? non-understandable training. Really, from which period had this training progressed is a spot to be bothered but, consider the acquirings of also Daigen Juurou and, surprising history is perhaps possibly profound.

Next time, R. Mika's alleged sponsor match with Zangief. Thanks as always for reading minna-san.

[Sagatryu]

Still under desire rather the white stuff seeing in Gouken Shin Shoryuken Ken is Steam or Air. Steam would basicly be part of the water element since it is vaporized water.

edit on releate note Dudely also use wind in his corkscrew blow and uppercut super. the main diffrences between the corkscrew blow and the Gigaton Blow is that Dudley does not wind his body up when he does it. he just lows his legs stretches his arm back . unlike Balrog who actually winds up before throw out his gigaton blow and he does this very fast.

[Rokiseph]

Manifestation of Ki

I see a lot of people thinking that Ki must have potential before it can be seen.

I need to elaborate that the more powerful you are, the more you don't need to see the physcial movement of your body, or see actually see the manifestation of Ki.

Example

Ken VS Ryu

Ken manifests his Ki into fire, but that doesn't mean he's powerful, actually, each time you manifest your Ki into one of the traditional elements, it's probably only going to do physical damage.

Ryu however, focuses on inner strength, his chanelling of Ki doesn't need a physical manifestation, just ask people who have been hit by his Shin Shoryuken (Kidding). Could even Balrog (Boxer) do that strong a gut punch with that small amount of movement? Probably not, and the reason is because Shin Shoryuken is a very very Ki based attack (No you can't see any 'manifestation' of Ki). It's doing internal damage, more so than Ken does with Shoryureppa or Shinryuken.

Some of you may already see the pattern throughout the series on who is using ki based moves and who is not as much (And all that fall in between), and actually relate them to the character and character design, but for those of you who still can't see it, read up more on internal/ external martial arts, then you'll start to understand the differences between Ryu, Ken, Gen, Gouki and Oro (And practically the whole cast) even more.

[Sagatryu]

acutally i am talking about the white stuff around his he has around his hand in his shin shoryuken you can see it here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbIvCF7C1Zo

and this is what happens when he misses

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZdBj...eature=related

edit: Ryu's hard shoryuken does with a white wind trail on it.

Ryu's white wind trail in SF4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CqcIASZZV0



wind effects on Balrog's Speicals

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpLDbDO0QO0

edit: Wind can be create without using Ki If some one has enough speed or can hit with enough force they can create wind as a side effect. so Ryu doesn't need to create wind with his Ki, he can do that just by punching with enough speed and force. I almost forgotting this fact about wind.

hajime no ippo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7Vh8tVPjHk

edit 2 : this is not manifestation of Ki into wind. the wind is being create by the speed and force of Ippo's punches.

[Rokiseph]

Yes, you'd be right on that, that kind of wind is just from the physical aspect from the punch hehe...

[Ultima]

Wow rose was in. Ultima got one of his speculation to be in. Yet there's still one random select that is not occupied.

What do you mean "one of his speculation"? I called Gouki, Gouken in the arcade version, and the 4 Alpha characters and 4 New Stereotypes in the console version. I'm 8-0 as far as "speculation" goes!

Full disclosure: I've been saying stuff under the cover of speculation, but I was not actually speculating. It's stuff I've known about from inside sources since June. :P

And according to those same sources, if all goes as planned, T.Hawk and Dee jay are next (and last). I hope they can reach their targets!

[TiamatRoar]

Karen stuff

...heh. You know, as outrageous as it is for Balrog to kill an elephant or for Ryu to dodge bullets, one really has to remember that such things apparently are par for the course for Street Fighter characters in everything (and not just fighting). I mean, seriously, Karen has to charm 5,000 gentlemen just to be a Kanzuki heir (and her mother charmed over 50,000 O_o) and got thrown into a deep forest at 9 years old.

And that's Karen. Street Fighter characters are hardcore.

(although I guess Sakura meanwhile... er, played videogames with her brother or something )

[aerialgroove]

And Sagat can dive for 20 minutes.

[Sagatryu]

the yellow thing on the end of sagat's uppercut during his ultra is not fire . it's a tiger shot. If projectiles composed of ki behave like light waves. their colors should match the colors on the color spectrum.

color spectrum

Violet

Blue

Green

Yellow

Orange

Red


edit Red mix with Blue = Purple

[Truest Strike]

Sure thing.

Possibly; I can't be sure about this one, as I can't tell if Sagat's realization is from his battle with brainwashed Ryu or from them actually meeting and fighting later on when they're both clear-headed and much less prideful of themselves. The console versions will hopefully help out here if the arcade ending script doesn't.

Here is hoping they do. I mean, I always thought the fight between them was very important in their story, on who finally get's that clean victory. Even when SFIII came out, I felt the outcome would be mentioned, yet it wasn't brought up. I like both characters immensely, so I'd be alright if a double-ko happened since I know how much that fight means to both of them

the yellow thing on the end of sagat's uppercut during his ultra is not fire . it's a tiger shot. If projectiles composed of ki behave like light waves. their colors should match the colors on the color spectrum.

color spectrum

Violet

Blue

Green

Yellow

Orange

Red


edit Red mix with Blue = Purple

Sagat does have the ability to manifest flames, right? At the end of his Tiger Raid (where is foot is on fire) is where I've seen it, but I think that was it. Aren't his other projectile attacks compared to being mauled by a tiger? If that was for his Tiger Shot's, then I can't imagine how is Tiger Cannon would feel like.

[The_Shakunetsu]

What do you mean "one of his speculation"? I called Gouki, Gouken in the arcade version, and the 4 Alpha characters and 4 New Stereotypes in the console version. I'm 8-0 as far as "speculation" goes!

Full disclosure: I've been saying stuff under the cover of speculation, but I was not actually speculating. It's stuff I've known about from inside sources since June. :P

And according to those same sources, if all goes as planned, T.Hawk and Dee jay are next (and last). I hope they can reach their targets!

wow that really cool i hope it would happen like you say and thats great news. I just hope for one thing for capcom would follow something like an expansion on the Arcade that is similar to the console.

[vasili10]

Side story update @ CJ's SF4 console page today, about Lauren. Be back later with the unleashing.

[True Tatsu]

Sagat does have the ability to manifest flames, right? At the end of his Tiger Raid (where is foot is on fire) is where I've seen it, but I think that was it. Aren't his other projectile attacks compared to being mauled by a tiger? If that was for his Tiger Shot's, then I can't imagine how is Tiger Cannon would feel like.

I think that TigerRaid is also representative of tigershot energy (not as convincing but...) while kicking.

Yes Sagat's power seems truly volital and violent. It makes since that despite loosing he put Adon in the hospital.

I'm thinking they may have peaked at ultima's SFP roster and also shot for the completes direction but with realistic expectations. They likely set some priority pattern...

8WW
4 new SF4
4 champs CE
4 boss (Seth, Gouki, Gouken, Gill/Urien 3/4)
4 NW ST (2 priority, 2 possibly)
8 SFA (4 priority,4 removed)
4 SF3 (2 possibly)
4 FF (4 removed)

[vasili10]

Ok 'tis ready:

Her Family

That day, Lauren was grappling with her elementary school writing.
The theme given to her from famed language teacher Ms. Sarah was a strict issue, "my family."
For Lauren, resting her chin on her hands looking up at the ceiling, she was thinking about it while her feet not reaching the floor swayed to and fro.

For Lauren, were 3 important people as family. Mama and, her rabbit Cicero, and then Aunt Emily.

Cicero, being a stuffed toy mama gave her for her 5th birthday, fluffy white, could be some spottish pink satin, is a very fantastic rabbit. Aunt Emily, the times when mama isn't at work, is a person who comes to help out in the house. Awfully kind, skillful in song. Even sewing being her specialty, a bag but a one-piece dress but, Lauren wants whatever she makes to give her. In addition, the food Aunt prepares is incredibly delicious. Having returned from school Lauren, sees the evening cook's collection of goods,
"So yummy!"
For the slaved-over menu, next day, they'd certainly line up at the dining table. Previously, mama had said that, "If Lauren gets along well with Ms. Emily, mama is glad," she said smiling, but that smile seemed a bit lonely. Lauren peered into mama's face, "Mama, number one is mama of course!!" she said with a serious look.
"Awkward in song but, don't take on appliques also, even burn the food a little bit, such things have nothing to do with it! Mama is the best!! There is no mama like my strong and cool mother! You can do tricks, besides before that when you took keri-ed that robber..."
"Oh Lauren."
Mama, quickly touched a finger to Lauren's lips.
"What...! Where did you recall keri? Don't be using such words!"
The shape of her mouth was laughing but, mama with only one eye when made narrow was when she got angry.
"I'm sorry."
As a genius Lauren apologized.
Be it boys be it girls, there's no using dirty words. So to say, was mama's favorite phrase. Even having expected Lauren to understand that well, which ones though were the dirty words, Lauren occasionally couldn't come to understand.
"Umm..., Mama kicking the robber, when she sent the robber flying into the counter her form was amazingly great, is all I was saying."
"I see, thank you."
Mama sweetly smiles, gently she stroked Lauren's head. Lauren, likes very much when mama's hand strokes her head. Warmly, fluffily, as though a sense of security completely hugs her.
"Hey mama. I, want to become like mama don't I."
Saying that, for mama her eyebrows rose on one side, she roughishly inclined her head to the side in doubt.
"Oh my, but mama is awkward in song, she doesn't take on appliques, she doesn't prepare any delicious food right!?"
"Aunt Emily is doing those for us it's okay!"
With that, Lauren continued.
"If I become strong like mama, I'll be able to do them together with work right?"
"Lauren..."
If mama was blinking in glittering surprise several times, she would delightfully smile.
"That's right isn't it. If Lauren were to prevail on such a grand scale, work together with those perhaps. Certainly would be enjoyable."
Thinking to grandly open for Lauren her round eyes, instantly her whole face expressed a smile.
"Absolutely!!"
And, mama's forehead knocked onto her own forehead with a clunk. Mama softly closed her eyes, Lauren also closed her eyes and, there was mama's usual scent. A tender fragrance of flowers. Unable for patience her eyes open and, Lauren as it is tightly hugs her mama about, she inhaled that sweet smell with all her strength.
"Mama, I love you!"
"Mama also loves Lauren!"

...is the extent of what she recalls remembering, spurred on by the feelings of wanting to have waited at the entranceway for mama's return, Lauren firmly beared with it.
"I'll quickly write my composition, and if mama comes back I'll read it to her and!" She says delightfully and, Lauren immediately hurries to the pen.

[Sagatryu]

these basic physic laws governing all fighters attacks even ones with the mastery of Ki.

1 potential energy

2 mass

3 acceleration

4 kinetic energy

4 force

5 Velocity

6 momentum

7 Work ( the amount of energy transfered by a force)

measure in Joules and foot pounds

8 Power ( the rate at which work is performed)

9 Energy ( Store work)

10 pressure ( this only applies if the fighter is pushing on something. the only attacks that would use pressure would be holds such as bear hugs and choke holds.)

The stuff about Ki wouldn't apply to bison since he's not using Ki , he's using pyscho power which would be be of a diffrent nature. so it would have it's own rules it follows. it seems that unlike Ki , psycho power has to be visibly seeing before it has potential.