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I don't get it. People are up in arms over DLC that is overpriced, but see no problems paying 60$ for the same game just patched?
And cutting the playerbase is bad.
I don't get it. People are up in arms over DLC that is overpriced, but see no problems paying 60$ for the same game just patched?
And cutting the playerbase is bad.
(NT)
so, just give it away for free as an update? what if that can't happen? i don't think that has anything to do with "cavemen".Originally Posted by Dark Vincent
actually, i'm pretty sure the developers know more about what needs to be done to release the game than anyone here, including you and i.
They could just do it as a free update a la Championship Edition, and for the guy that worried that sometime down the line the update won't be available from Microsoft's defunct servers they could do what they do with the Left 4 Dead and Oblivion GOTY editions and just package it with the retail version of the game.
I'd like to note that they don't specifically say that he has a daughter. The question was,
- I don't have the game so maybe this gets mentioned in gouken's ending or something, but supposedly, he has a 12 year old daughter, that "probably is as strong as ryu,ken or gouki" and "maybe can do a one handed hadouken like his father can". I say stop adding shotos please
Q: There's something I've always been wondering! That is, does Gouken have a child (daughter)?
A: Hm... that hasn't been revealed, so we can't say much about it. But, if he does have a child, he/she would probably be as strong as Ryu, Ken or Gouki. Since he/she would have Gouken's blood, he/she could probably shoot a one-handed hadouken at about 12 years old.
Also something I thought was interesting that you left out,
Q: We want new characters! There aren't very many right now... Also, we'd like to see some new ultra combos for all characters as well.
A: Hm. Shiozawa would like to release more ultra combos as well! I will be suggesting this to the planner! They will probably add ultra combo II's if there is a next time. ...Probably!
It will probably be a new game on its own. You can't just patch the console version because then it would be hard to play arcade and then play the same characters as well on a console.
"Find me a man who can defeat this robot-ninja and I will show you... yet another robot-ninja..."
bulls shit, patching and versions were very common with company's in those days just not capcom..
midway it was a way of life..
as well as other company's..
madden.. that is all
You're right. Thanks for your corrections.I'd like to note that they don't specifically say that he has a daughter. The question was,
Q: There's something I've always been wondering! That is, does Gouken have a child (daughter)?
A: Hm... that hasn't been revealed, so we can't say much about it. But, if he does have a child, he/she would probably be as strong as Ryu, Ken or Gouki. Since he/she would have Gouken's blood, he/she could probably shoot a one-handed hadouken at about 12 years old.
Also something I thought was interesting that you left out,
Q: We want new characters! There aren't very many right now... Also, we'd like to see some new ultra combos for all characters as well.
A: Hm. Shiozawa would like to release more ultra combos as well! I will be suggesting this to the planner! They will probably add ultra combo II's if there is a next time. ...Probably!
^- Someone requested being able to rotate the camera while replaying matches. Capcom say's they will think about it.
This is just for Japanophiles/Anime-Pervs that want to zoom in on Chun or Cammy's ass. Then again, Japanophiles/Anime-Pervs are what got Cammy into the game to begin with.
- I don't have the game so maybe this gets mentioned in gouken's ending or something, but supposedly, he has a 12 year old daughter, that "probably is as strong as ryu,ken or gouki" and "maybe can do a one handed hadouken like his father can". I say stop adding shotos please
Here we go, Guilty Gear/Blazblue/Doujin-Fighter loli bullshit. This reminds me of the Street Fighter Alpha anime: Not only was it total shit, but they had some random little kid that came outta nowhere (was never in a Street Fighter game) with sadistic super powers that could whup the shit out of the world's greatest warriors like Zangief, while BAREFOOT. Keep this stupid typical-doujin shit out of Street Fighter, please.
- They mention that they could add Rolento (?!) if there's enough demand
But they won't add Dudley, who I believe was the very first contest winner, because he's not a stereotypical black man. I'm surprised Rolento is even being considered, seeing as how he doesn't have a vagina, and the first excuse for shafting him was "He's a Final Fight character."
- They will talk about the stages in a future post, and why each char doesn't have his/her own stage
All the stages and music in this game suck anyway.
- They are thinking about doing a SF4 related survey in the future. I think Capcom did something like this in the Alpha era
When it comes to surveys or game-reception, fans are idiots. They'll just request more brain-dead fanservice bullshit, like adding adult Sakura or big-tittied R. Mika.
- A SF4 "2nd version" is practically confirmed in this post.
Better than nothing. I look forward to it.
- They say a lot of people are asking to be able to choose any song in the game with any stage. Capcom says a lot of effort went into selecting the proper song for each stage, but they will think of adding something similar to the game.
Kind of like Guilty Gear Accent Core? I gotta admit that it's lame that you can't hear the character-specific themes in versus mode, but again, they all suck anyway. That effort was a waste. I'm cool with just playing Ronin Warriors tracks from my hard drive.
See bolded text.
Thank you very much for the info.
"HOLY FUCK!" GAME OF THE WEEK: Project Horned Owl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHTXeftwT-g
(fuckin' Japanophiles didn't even bother to upload the U.S. intro)
Patching does have its benefits, but I still maintain that the amount of money it will cost them to make new characters, adjust/fix old characters, and put in any necessary new stuff (stages, music, online modes, whatever else you want to put here) will not be made up by releasing it as a paid online patch/DLC. They just aren't as viable business models as disc-based games (yet).
Also, forcing everyone to download a patch containing new characters (at who knows how big), then making them pay to use it? I'm sure that'll go over really well with everyone.
I agree that segmenting the player base is bad. But ... what if you WANT to play vanilla SF4, on your old disc, without the patch? Putting in an option to "turn off the patch" is pretty strange, especially considering there could easily be several different patches if they went with this model, and you're essentially trying to play two different games off one disc. How would online work if you wanted to play someone in vanilla SF4? You're back to segmenting the player base again (only now with additional matchmaking issues for Capcom), unless you wipe vanilla SF4 off the face of the earth with the patch update.
As far as deployment, advertising, and cost-effectiveness for Capcom, a disc-based version is probably more appropriate right now. But the game I'm talking about is more than just a handful of move tweaks for existing characters; a problem for which patches are better suited.
winback my hero..
Had some spare time, so I decided to just translate the whole thing.
Q: During the replay, it would be nice to be able to zoom in or move around the camera angle freely.
A: That's a good idea. The characters are really expressionistic this time around, so we'd like to be able to give you the ability to create your very own cut! We'll look into it!
Q: This has been on our minds for quite some time, but didn't Gouken have a daughter?
A: Well...that hasn't been publicly released so I can't really talk about it. But, if he did have a daughter, it seems like she'd be as strong as Ryu, Ken, and Akuma. With that bloodline, she'd probably be able to throw a one-handed hadouken at the age of 12.
(Az's Note: This question is in reference to SF storylines. In the "canon" (don't think this ever appeared in any game) Gouken supposedly had a daughter called Little Miss, who witnessed Gouken's "death" together with Ken. This is just stuff from info books. Shiozawa sounds like she's just speculating here, although its not out of the question that the character could be in development. I would say take it with a grain of salt.)
Q: Why can't we use Chun's Kikousho in the game, although she has it in the anime opening?!
A: Yeah, huh! Well, its probably because the game and anime schedules weren't coordinated together. ...Probably.
Q: Why don't we get to see Sakura's panties in her ending?
A: Its not that you don't get to see them, its just that you didn't see them. ...Probably.
(Az's Note: Fuckin' Japanese perverts...this is like the second or third time they've asked this too.)
Q: Will this blog continue until 2011?
A: What, why 2011?! What are you saying? There hasn't been any talks to end this...huh?
Q: Will there be cross-platform play on the PC Version?
A: There is no cross-platform play from the PC version to either the PS3 or 360. The rankings also start from the very beginning, to take this chance to aim for the top!
Q: Are there any plans for a Spectator Mode?
A: At this point, there are no plans. As this is the most requested thing, I'm sorry I can't give you a more positive response.
Q: No Rolento? There aren't any other characters who move quite like him. So, no chance? I'd really like to use him...
A: Its true that his movements were unique. If you all make your voices heard, there might be a chance...!?
(Az's Note: Seems like the standard "ask for it and...hmm...maybe?!" response they give for a lot of stuff.)
Q: Why don't characters have individual stages? Does it have anything to do with the difficulty of designing 3D stages vs 2D? Also, we'd like to hear more about their development.
A: To answer this, I'd like to refer to the appropriate person. But! As he's out of reach at the moment, I'll put this together with other developmental questions and ask at a later date! Please wait a little bit.
Q: Will the online play for PC cost any money?
A: Nope, its free!
Q: Tekken...Shiozawa, you're pretty interesting! Fight on! If you play Tekken, that means you like fighting games! Which characters are you using?
A: Well, since you've asked! (This isn't a Capcom game...but that's fine, isn't it!) I use the Tae Kwon Do combo of Baek and Hwoarang.. Since TKD is pretty cool, I'm also trying to learn it in real life! I've gotten into it. I go 3 times a week, and I'd like to go to a training camp in Korea. When I mentioned this to Ono, he was pretty amazed. Ha ha ha!
(Az's Note: Fuckin' Japanese nerds trying to get in her pants. ...But I think I've seen her in person, and she's cute so I can't really blame them.)
Q: Also, we were wondering about the double step that beautiful gymnasts often take when landing.
A: That's not a double step, its a light step. Probably!
(Az's Note: Huh? Whatev.)
Q: Will you be taking a survey? Since you've got a blog here where people can express their opinions and all...
A: This blog really is a place where everyone expresses their hopes and opinions. So, I'd like to do it at least once! I'll think about it!
(Az's Note: Pretty sure this would be Japanese only. For English, you'd have to bug the folks over at Capcom-Unity I imagine.)
Q: You've added a disconnect ratio as a penality for ragequitters, but shouldn't you have done more to punish them?
A: The disconnect percentage isn't for punishing people, but to show the connection environment. As a result, we can't really go about dropping heavy penalities on people.
Q: The characters talk to each other during the rival battle, but it would also be cool to have them talking during regular battles. Or how about just a special mode featuring this?
A: Endo (I think a producer) also mentioned this! A small "Confrontational Mode" or something like that, right? This would definitely be exciting! If there's a chance, Endo will work on this, so I'm gonna pressure him a bit to do so!
Q: Is the narrator/announcer's voice Debito? Or someone else?
A: That's not Debito, but a VA pro. But during the loketests, as we hadn't finished the recordings yet that voice was Debito! In the home versions, Debito makes a few guest appearances during some of the opening and ending anime sequences (hint: Fuerte).
(Az's Note: Debito is an American guy who became a Japanese citizen here. I think that's who they're referring to).
Q: About a diagram function to show number of battles and win percentage per character. It would be cool if we could have individual stats as well as total online battle numbers.
A: Yep! During development we had a diagram like this and used it to tweak the characters. Seems like it'd be pretty handy!
Q: We want SF4 wallpapers and themes!
A: While we currently don't have any plans for wallpapers or themes on the PS3 or 360, as the PC version will go on sale soon, if there are going to be PC wallpapers its about time to start working on them! We'll be awaiting your requests!
Q: I've been playing pretty much everyday since the game came out. I'm not getting enough sleep and its messing with my work.
A: This comment makes me pretty happy! Thank you! But you shouldn't slack off at work...nah, please play more!
Q: The blocking sounds between the arcade version and the home versions are different. Please change the home version to have the same blocking sound as the arcade!
A: This is all Mr. Endo. So I asked him about it. "Wow, these guys are hardcore! There is definitely a slight difference. The reason is because the sound that comes out of arcade cabs vs the sound from home equipment is different, so we optimized it for home use. There are definitely other areas of difference, so please listen for them and compare! Thank you!"
Q: Icons and titles are cool, but how about comments that can be displayed either before or after the match? Even fixed dialogue would be fine.
A: Others have also suggested this. I think its a good idea! Communication between people. A nice greeting to start things off. We welcome these kinds of suggestions! The development staff is always saying "If there's a next time...", so please continue to make these suggestions!
(Az's Note: In the arcade, we had "PR" where we could input about 20 characters of text that would be displayed together with our name, BP, guild, and titles. This would be kinda hard to regulate for the home I imagine, but some sort of auto "Good game" or "Let's fight again" you could have pop up after a match would be nice.)
Q: We've been anxiously awaiting a complete SF image collection! We'd buy one for looking and one for preservation! We saw the Artwork Book...and we want more!
A: The artwork book is definitely doing well! When I have time, I also open it up and have a look. 20 years of miraculous images.
Q: On the Overpass Stage - Tokyo (Sakura's stage?), what are they saying? (I think this is in reference to the music.)
A: I asked the music developer, Fukuzawa about this. His answer was "its a secret." I have no idea either!
Q: We want more characters! There aren't enough. And also, new ultras!
A: I would also like to see more varied ultras! So I will pass this along to the planners! If there is a next version, we should definitely see "Ultra II"!
(Az's Note: Like how she skipped over the more characters thing.)
Q: On the volcano stage, on an analog TV the red colors blue, and its not very adjustable and it makes my eyes hurt...
A: Sorry about that. We'll be more careful about it next time.
Q: Is there going to be a SFIV-2 or something like that? Since SFIII went up to 3rd Strike, we've been expecting something....with the CE Mode update and the PC version is this the end of SFIV?
A: Hm! Well, this is the most difficult kind of question to answer! With everyone supporting and playing and getting worked up at events for SFIV, well there's bound to be a "next"! So, please stick with us. I don't lie.
(Az's Note: She pretty much only says that it will continue, but nothing so far as how - other updates, a sequel, nothing like that. Very vague.)
Q: In the CE update the PS3 and 360 had some differences in their features. Was this a result of hardware limitations?
A: Yes. Based on the hardwards, there were certain things we could and couldn't do, so we tried to make the best out of what we had.
(Az's Note: The only real difference is the ability to save replays to the HD, and I don't know why PS3 wouldn't be able to handle this...)
Q: Will the PC version also have voice and subtitle options? It would be nice to be able to set them separately. (Japanese voice + English subtitles, or English voice + Japanese subtitles...)
A: As for the subtitles, they will be displayed in the language selected during install, so unfortunately you can't have separate voice and subtitle options. But you can change the voice options by character!
Q: For the PC version, will we be able to change the names to match up with the international versions? (Vega -> M.Bison, Gouki -> Akuma)
A: Same as the voice, it'll be displayed to match the language option you choose at install. You won't be able to change it during the game.
Q: Guile and Chun are fighting for justice, but Cammy refers to them using an impolite pronoun. Is she being rude or belitting them?
A: Huh? Has Cammy always done that? I don't think she's belittling them, just refering to them as equals. That's my opinion anyway!
(Az's Note: Japanese language/cultural stuff.)
Q: Will we be able to use a controller other than the 360 for the PC version?
A: There are other things you can use. For example, the Hori 360 Arcade Stick! (Although its a bit difficult to find...)
(Az's Note: And the cash register sound goes off in Shiozawa's office. ...I believe there are drivers out there that let you use PS3 controllers on the PC, but I don't know how well they work, especially with Capcom games...)
Q: We know about the PC specs for the game, but what about the monitor?
A: Oh, we didn't write that down? Sorry about that! You need 640x480 at least, but we recommend 1280x720.
Q: As long as Ryu and the SF Crew continue their fight, we'd like you to continue this blog.
A: (Insert Japanese girl gushing here).
Q: SFIV themes and icons are being delivered to the marketplace, but about the icons...we still don't have any for Dan, Fei, or Gen.
A: Ah, sorry about that. We'll look into it.
Q: Will we be able to select the BGM for stages?
A: We see this request pretty often. Everyone has pretty strong thoughts about the SF series music. But, as we put a lot of thought into "Ok, this music for this stage!" or "This music for this character!", letting you select the music...yeah. But it would be nice if we could do something towards this!
(Az's Note: In order words, we don't think you can make a better decision regarding the music than we did.)
"This thread right here and the opinions expressed herein are the reason there never will be another well received 2D fighting game, much less SF4."
- Viscant, 2005
Another SF4?! YES! YES!
They seriously needed to spend more time on SF4, I think. It just feels incomplete. Not enough levels, no special battle intros, some very strange balancing choices, poor anime intros/ends... I mean, for Gods' sake... Vega didn't have a level... Sagat didn't have a level... M frikkin' Bison has to share his level with Zangief because it's a) Russia (for Zangief) and b) a train yard (Bisons' Alpha level).
I think that another iteration of SF4 would be the best thing to happen to the game. PLEASE more levels. PLEASE original character music and levels from SF2/Alpha. C'mon Capcom! It's not that hard. Fill up the Blu Ray space!
Let it be heard that Rolento is welcome to join in the tournament! However, don't forget Dee Jay and T. Hawk. It just doesn't feel complete without those two guys, as unpopular as they were. There's just an unfilled void where they once were... bring them back! Complete the roster!
There seriously just needs to be alittle more spit and polish... it's one of those games that if you don't get right 100%, 99% ain't gonna cut it.
Every character needs their' own level, and their' own theme. There needs to be a choice of supers. There needs to be variety in the roster. Rose, Ken, Ryu, Gouken, Akuma, Sakura, Dan, Sagat and even Seth play too similairly. That's 9 out of the 25 total. That leaves 16 characters who play somewhat differently, and even there exist some parallels. Eg Vega and Gen play very similairly (Gen is basically just a better Vega) and so on.
There needs to be more... 'zip' to the roster... more 'zazz'. Something fresh! I often find myself completely unable to choose a character at the select screen because... well, none of them interest me, really. I've either played them before, or they play too similairly to another character.
If Valve can do it and make a profit from it, Capcom can too. It's just a matter of stepping out of the 1990s and into the 21st century like other successful developers.
Milking SF2 is largely what killed the fighting game fad the first time around. Hopefully they've learned from that mistake.
You could switch between CE and Turbo in the SNES version of SF2: Turbo. I don't see why that wouldn't work in SF4.
Last edited by Data Beast; 05-22-2009 at 08:52 PM.
Well he made it quite clear that the question hints that the speaker hopes it's a girl over a boy. More of that female loli-desire shit.
Thank you all for the further translations.
"HOLY FUCK!" GAME OF THE WEEK: Project Horned Owl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHTXeftwT-g
(fuckin' Japanophiles didn't even bother to upload the U.S. intro)
< my title. Hooray.- I don't have the game so maybe this gets mentioned in gouken's ending or something, but supposedly, he has a 12 year old daughter, that "probably is as strong as ryu,ken or gouki" and "maybe can do a one handed hadouken like his father can". I say stop adding shotos please
It's because of time and/or budget constraints. They couldn't have made a conscious and sane decision to only produce the current number of repetitive and monotonous stages if they had the option of producing more.- They will talk about the stages in a future post, and why each char doesn't have his/her own stage
As previously mentioned. I would wish for SFIV to be patched but if the patching process is too demanding and unfeasable to be written off as a free DLC than I really wouldn't mind a seperate second version given that it presents enough additions and changes to the original game for it to warrant a new release.- A SF4 "2nd version" is practically confirmed in this post.
Finally!- Special intros (Gouken vs Ryu,etc) will probably be added in the next update/next
version
What a load of BS. So, they couldn't have made inputs appear instead of that lame voting gimmick due to hardware limitations.. really?- PS3/XBoX360 differences in the update that was recently released are due to hardware limitations
Thanks for the news and thanks to Azrael for the full translation.
".. In other words, Street Fighter IV is easy to start up with, and if newcomers play it and reach a professional level, those players may be able to move onto Street Fighter III."
-Yoshinori Ono
Judaism and Zionism -Rabbi Goldstein: youtube.com/watch?v=w4YjyCpN4gA
I don't care what they do, they just better add Vega's stage, and theme song. His was the best in SFII imo.
So glad they officially announced (basically) sf4 2nd down, even though it was almost a given.
The little tid bit about ultra's got me interested, If they put something in like 3rd strike where you get too pick 3 different ultras or something it's going to be AWESOME!
The key to winning is consistency, consistency, consisency.
Starcraft: Zerg
SFIV: C.Viper
Blazblue(planned): Jin
Thank you Azrael for translating.
Gouken having a 14 year old daughter? Is there no end to the Japanese being horn dogs? A 50+ year old man having a teenage daughter that will most likely wear something revealing....and dont we have enough shotos?
But I am looking forward to special intros for some matchups such as Ken vs Rufus and Bison vs Guile.
I want the entire SFII Turbo cast to be reunited as well. So that means they should add T. Hawk and Dee Jay to the cast plus I would like to see Hugo in as well. I know Hugo was in SFIII but he was also in Final Fight 1 which takes place around Street Fighter Alpha so I say he has a chance. Plus, I just want a Zangief vs Hugo match for the love of Uncle Jesus.
Everyone! Get your torches lit and your pitchforks ready! We are storming Capcom's headquarters while shouting "SHORYUKEN!!!!"
Gouken is as much a shoto as Urien is.
I don't mind the idea but you know full well people will complain about having to pay for it. Also if some people had the patch while others didn't, you would still be dividing the player base.
I am in the same boat as you as far as what I would like to see. However, I very much doubt they will do it that way.
I'm quite worried for SFIV if they start implementing things on the back of some sort of fan survey if this is the sort of crap people are asking for.
They can do it on the PC but they won't be able too on the 360.
Take Dan's fucking right arm off and give him Megaman's canon. Please.
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