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    INactive gamers: Triple Troll

    Wow, so where to begin. Ah yes, the beginning.

    So I decided to help out for this event for the hell of it seeing as making something smooth running like this tournament was going to be good for the community and as already said by Active Gamers LA that this was for the community. Also, they had a good amount of sponsors that I wanted to meet so just marketing myself out there. I go ahead and ask about a week in advance if we were going to be setting up the night before and was then told that everything would be setup but there was a party on that night and I should come. I was hesitant since gas prices are raping me right now but I thought it would be good to go to see who I was working with the next day and to see some friends.

    I arrive and am told that we will be doing final setup at around 7am the next day. I arrive at 7am only to wait until 8am for someone to arrive. I am the first person inside the building and see that the only things "setup" are 3 fold-away tables on each end of the room and 3 small bleachers to sit and watch the main matches. No setups nothing. I started to wonder to myself how this was supposed to start at 9am or 10am as promised. Finally when some stuff arrived we started to setup. It seemed that the person in charge was busy and I was being hounded by this old guy who was a sponsor with some comic book store for his 6 tables and such. I decided to take initiative and start setting things up and letting people know where shit had to go. We had a dire lack of consoles to start off and more 360s than PS3s which didn't seem too big of an issue. There were however a bunch of 360 consoles that had component only and no HDMI support. For this they just moved them over to the BB setups. Kind of sucks since BB always gets shafted. We only had 360 setups for BB until some of my friends brought their PS3s for the tourney. So while setting up I am lead to think that it's just hook shit up, get power from the wall, and connect and we should be good, right? Wrong. Turns out that they were very limited on the supplies they bought. They kept running back and forth from the store bringing back power strips, extension cords, etc. At this point I'm thinking to myself that this shit should have been done waaaay before hand. At this point it's 9:30am and people are all standing outside in the cold. I ask them if we should let them in but they don't want to until everything has been setup.

    After I setup what I can I ask if there will be more monitors since we didn't have that many. They start to unpackage some brand new monitors that they bought (brand escapes me) so I start to setup on them only to find out that there are only VGA and DVI inputs, no HDMI at all. I go ahead and ask them if we had any dvi to hdmi converters since that would be the only logical explanation why they would have bought these. They assure me that the monitors have HDMI inputs in them. I send them over to check telling them that they are not on the monitors. After realizing that they didn't have any they pack them up and put them aside. I ask them when we would be getting more monitors and they just shrugged. We never got more monitors than what were shown there.

    At this point the time is around a little after 11am and things are getting very hectic outside with people waiting for hours just to play something or just be out of the damn cold. I bring in a couple people including my friends that have consoles to let them borrow and try to get them wrist bands to be in the venue. Now, as listed on the tourney posting, if you brought a console then venue fee is comped. The guy giving out the wrist bands though would not comprehend this though and I had to explain it to him about 6 or 7 different times. He was very adamant to get them to pay even though it was comped. Also, no, they were not entering any tourneys, just spectating. I find out after this incident that they even tried to charge the people from Aksys Games entry fee even though the BB tourney portion was sponsored by them!!!

    I then go to the consoles, what they had was setup and some more consoles finally came in around 11:20am (better late than never). Of course people are still waiting outside. I count how many of what games we need for each console and go to tell them so we can have everything setup and finally let people in. They go ahead and tell me to not worry and they would take care of it. Instead they put me on duty of the opposite side of the venue guarding a door to make sure no one without a wrist band gets in and to tell them to go around. I go ahead and sit down in front of this door eventually passing out (I had an hour of sleep the night before). I wake up over an hour later and hear some music from the DJ that was there. I think to myself that they have finally let people in and people are playing. I go back to the area where shit is setup and NOTHING HAD CHANGED!!! People were still outside waiting while they let 1 or 2 people in at a time and many setups still had no games in them.

    Finally people started to get let in at around 1pm. Only thing is, apparently someone forgot to take all the preregistered applicants and put them in the computer and get them ready for their tournies. So everyone that came in first went to the middle island to give their name and register. Now this doesn't sound too bad until it came to my attention that there was a person at the door that was collecting venue and fee for games. Now anyone who came in was just as easily able to tell them that they wanted to enter this tourney and they would have added their name. Half of SFIV contestants didn't pay venue or price to get in.

    At this point I was sick and tired of all the bullshit that was going on and told them that if they needed anymore help to not ask me as they were way too unorganized. Hell, they didn't even know who was supposed to run the BB tourney. We had to just go ahead and start it ourselves and not worry about anything else.

    Oh yes, also the side tournies for Brawl, 3s, and HD:R never took place. People that paid for them never got their money back either. Apparently, they were supposed to take place on the upper floor but it was taken up the whole time. From what I remember since I was the first there they told me that the upper floor was being used for a dance room but only until 2pm. Since we let people in at 1pm and tournies didn't start until a while after that this shouldn't have been an issue. I think this was just their scape goat since it didn't seem like they had enough monitors.
    Okay, the best part of it all. So, BB is the first tourney to end. I go up to the guy running the whole shebang and ask him for the money. I am then told that the main guy (owner of Active Gamers) has the money and he would be there soon. This is told to me a little before 7pm. We wanted the money so we could go out and eat and just leave since everyone was fed up with the tourney already. An hour rolls by, they assure me they are trying to contact him but he is not picking up his phone. We start to get more irritated since we're really hungry. They finally pull us out at around a little before 10pm and tell us that they don't have the entire amount of money for ANY of the games. What was supposed to be $2200 was only $1580 per game. They said they would mail us a check or something later in the week. Of course people are pissed since we were told cash up front. I ask them why and they tell me that the amount of money from the entrance fees for the pot doesn't add up to $2200. I stop them right there. I tell them that I was told by Aksys that they put in the straight amount of money for BB itself and they should have the full amount for us now. They then switch their story and tell me that it's in the bank mixed with other funds and they can't retrieve the money now. Of course all the players that were supposed to get money were pissed. SFIV players wanted to take monitors as collateral in case they didn't get paid. Who can blame them, with all the times the fighting community has been shafted.

    Also, I finally learn that people were charged for parking when this was not supposed to be. Also, when the amount of spots were filled for parking they did not try to fit more cars in, they just told people that they weren't allowed to enter. There was no place to park on the streets either so people just ended up not being able to attend.

    Pretty sure this covered it. I know many many people were, and still are, pissed including myself. I try and do a nice thing by helping out just to see the minimum or less being done. I wash my hands of this tournament. They had too many people with no knowledge on how to run a tourney. They should have definitely trained everyone in this before sending them to hold a gathering of this proportion.

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    I dropped in late to the tournament. From what people were telling me when i got there, I assumed that it was just rookie mistakes that was causing all these problems. Then I realized rookie mistakes would be something like West Coast Warzone where a two man team busted their asses off night and day with proper equipment and proper trial runs to prepare for a big event, only to undergo some delays due to unforseen circumstances. From what you're describing, this tournament would just be a result of plain lack of common sense, effort, and preparation along with some retards manning the door and parking lot.
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    Yeah my roommate I've been playing with came down here with me from Vegas to play, pre-registered and shit.

    He registered again in the middle to make sure and still wasn't put into the brackets. By the time we talked to them it was too late to put him in the tourney so they refunded him $26 and told him the other $10 would goto Spectator fee. Pretty bullshit, imo.
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    Damn that sounded hella sketchy. I honestly think ActiveGamers were way over their heads when they did this thing. Their previous tournies barely 15 people showed up, and now they trying to run a Major-level tourney? Yea, that wasn't gonna happen. I also heard the stream was ass too.

    Here's my theory why there was no money to be given: they just lost a shit load of money. From what I hear, ActiveGamers was created through the backing of some entrepreneurs. From what I believe...they have like 10-20k in funds. The only way they make money is through food and venue fees. I know for a fact they definitely lost money for every one of their tournies. Look at the results for every one of their tournies, barely anyone showed up to pay their stupid ass venue fee and buy their shitty ass Costco pizza.

    Glad I didn't go to this, because I had a feeling it wasn't gonna pan out after going to their last two tournies.

    They gambled big, because they were probably expecting at least SB4 like numbers. Well, I doubt they got half as many. Now they just lost a shit load of their funding, so of course they gonna start back tracking like a bunch of pussies when the bread has to be paid.

    Shit is whack yo, everyone shoulda listened to pherai hahahahaha
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    Quote Originally Posted by marn View Post
    Spectator fee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marn View Post
    Yeah my roommate I've been playing with came down here with me from Vegas to play, pre-registered and shit.

    He registered again in the middle to make sure and still wasn't put into the brackets. By the time we talked to them it was too late to put him in the tourney so they refunded him $26 and told him the other $10 would goto Spectator fee. Pretty bullshit, imo.
    ;(


    I shoulda stole one of the monitors.





    Way to leave the doors wide open with no heat in that bitch, too.

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    Oh, and that speech/announcement by that dude was COMEDY.


    "Listen, I'm a Gamer. Been a Gamer all my life..."

    Anytime someone would ask him a question, expect to hear that line 3-4x repeated.
    Simply Mediocre.

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    Shit is mad serious
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    I really want to know where the extra $6 came from and where the fuck all the money went to enter a game ($10) went in terms of the pot.

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    I also wanna point out that the HDR entrants never got our entrance fee refunded after they canceled the HDR tourney. And poor Afrolegends and DGV and a couple other guys, they came here solely for HDR, showed up at 11 or whatever like everyone else, hung out for hours while there was no Remix, and then not only was the HDR tourney canceled, but nobody even told them that it was canceled, so they ended up staying until nighttime for 100% no reason.
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    the list of bullshit tonight

    - get there at 9am...shit wasnt even remotely ready..as i was told to show up by 10am so i can get some practice games..nothing was setup,which left me - hungbee - keno to sit there, debating about life on mars and the importance of chlorophyll in plants ...tournament didnt start till past 1pm

    - what is up with the extra 10 bucks for parking,charging and arm and a leg for a tourny, and on top of that a steep parking fee that was UNADVERTISED

    - shit was disorganized - sloppy - unprepared ....beyond rookie to me..this was (as Haunts from iplaywinner would say) a Fisher Price My First Tourny

    - playing SF4 on XBOX and PS3..the difference in timing and speed on these two systems is night and day

    - slow as molasses progress in terms of getting matches done

    - fucking freezing our asses of in STATE OF THE ART GYM

    - what was pretty FUCKED UP was afrolegends - DGV and his brother showed up under the impression that HD Remix was still going on (this was about 6 or 7pm) and I had just heard whispers that it was cancelled..how do this biggest diservice to these players..take their money and not have the gall to announce that the tourny was cancelled..you left them hanging under the false pretense of HD still in effect

    - for an pretty hyped and pretty expensive tournament.. everything was a mighty fail from activegamers.. i know some of the employees tried their best (reg - justin - darryl the parking attendant)..but ultimately this MAJOR bad of a tournament falls on the shoulder of the head of activegamers..NOT EVEN SWEET MAHALIA JACKSON AND AUNT JEMIMA COULD COMBINE FORCES TO COME UP WITH A SWEETER SYRUPY CONCOCTION TO SUGARCOAT THIS MESSY DINGLEBERRY OF A POOR EXCUSE OF A TOURNAMENT
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    Active Gamer LA's should be listed in "Tournament Promoters and venues to avoid thread": http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=197094
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    Who was that guy White collar shirt with red tie (Tournament Organizer) that came to the TV/Projector stage and yanked the controllers from the girls that were playing, then walked off?

    that was a pretty dickhead move.

    ggs

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    Wow, that is some wack bullshit there. Seems like they were just trying to ride the hype and got in way over their heads, who ever that crew is.

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    Alright, that's a lot of issues covered, but most of them can be attributed to the staff of HAX.

    1. Parking. Although this was resolved within the first few hours of the day, the parking staff WAS told that parking would be free for Triple Threat, however for some reason or another, they decided to start charging anyway. This was not the fault of Activegamers, and they solved it as soon as it was brought to their attention.

    2. Venue Fee at the Door. This was also not the work of Activegamers, but the HAX staff not understanding the system already in place.

    3. Side Tournaments. The side tournaments were scheduled to be held in the upstairs room, however HAX allowed another group in there at the same time. Again, not Activegamers' fault.




    Also, some of your information is wrong.

    For Parking, once it filled up, there WAS space on the streets, and the parking attendant informed me, among other people, that that was an option from the very start.

    The issue with the money was blown way out of proportion. Activegamers handled it very professionally, and from what I hear, all of the contestants will receive their prize money in under a week.




    It wasn't the perfect tournament, but every tournament has its flaws. For being their first major tournament, I think it was done pretty well, and a whole lot more could have gone wrong. To be honest I had a lot of fun today, and I know a lot of other people did too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkMan View Post
    A big fuck you to the guy who stole a monitor.

    A big fuck you to the guy who stole a TE stick.

    A big fuck you to the guy who stole the 360s.

    A big fuck you.
    Damn.

    There's no excuse for that.

    Was it a Round 2 TE? If it is, I'll hunt the guy down if I get to keep one as a reward d=
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    What a shitty situation, Hellfromabove. Keep us updated as to if everybody gets their refunds/job earnings.

    And Wonder_Chef, it seems to me that HAX staff was not informed properly if they started charging for all sorts of stuff. A proper meeting/briefing prior to the event could surely have prevented this from happening.

    Ofc not having been there, this is just my take on what has been posted.
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    active gamers blames the venue as well.


    i dont know, i was PISSED OFF at having to wait for 3 extra hours... i was also pissed off at having to pay for parking. in defense of active gamers, when i first got there at precisely 10 o'clock, the parking attendant told me that i had to pay $10 to park inside the venue... when i pitched a bitch about the fact that this hadnt been advertised, dude told me that not even active gamers knew about it before the that morning...


    but once inside the tourny was well, pretty decent minus the fucked up shit with hdr and smash and payout and time waiting outside... (thats alot of ands)


    i feel for the players, pretty much i think people said it best when they said that AG just doesnt really know how to run a tourny... they're rookies. i'd like to think that that is all that really happened.... inexperienced people. as that means that things can be done in the future to prevent such stupidity, like not having a pre-party and actually setting up the venue the night before instead of the day of.


    i'd like to give them another chance as the venue was BIG and that in itself was very nice not having to be nuts to butts with funky gamers that dont bother to shower...


    but of course its really up to top players and whether or not they will continue to support AG... if they do, then others are sure to follow.


    i'd like to see AG come out of this lesson learned, ready to do right next time... anyone that supports the community should be given a second chance as we dont have that many people doing for us... our arcades are dying and ssf4 will probably be the last streetfighter game as we know it.






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    A super big "die and burn in hell" to whoever stole my 360, my tekken six, my blazblue, and my SF4.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raizikolo View Post
    A super big "die and burn in hell" to whoever stole my 360, my tekken six, my blazblue, and my SF4.
    If you can, keep an eye out on xbox live. The guy might be stupid enough to log on, then you can inform microsoft and they can inform the proper authorities.

    Other than that...damn that fucking sucks. You would think activegamers, or indeed the players around there, would have kept an eye out for shady ass mother fuckers stealing shit....
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    Jesus man.

    What the fuck is up with all these shady ass tournaments going on. Can we have a thread here that explains people the basics of this shit so this HOPEFULLY doesn't happen as much?

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    Oh man, I knew this venue was too good to be true.
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    I think this should go under
    "tournament promoters (edit: AND VENUES) to avoid"
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtsac kid View Post
    NOT EVEN SWEET MAHALIA JACKSON AND AUNT JEMIMA COULD COMBINE FORCES TO COME UP WITH A SWEETER SYRUPY CONCOCTION TO SUGARCOAT THIS MESSY DINGLEBERRY OF A POOR EXCUSE OF A TOURNAMENT
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkMan View Post
    A big fuck you to the guy who stole a monitor.

    A big fuck you to the guy who stole a TE stick.

    A big fuck you to the guy who stole the 360s.

    A big fuck you.
    Quote Originally Posted by Raizikolo View Post
    A super big "die and burn in hell" to whoever stole my 360, my tekken six, my blazblue, and my SF4.
    Man that really sucks for the both of you and im sorry to hear that. But if the venue was so big how did (the people who stole stuff) they get it and walk out with it? wasnt the equipment guarded?
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