Old 03-15-2004, 08:58 AM   #1
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Okay so we all know on 3S akuma has two hidden SA the shungokusatsu and the KKZ sorry but I forget the full name of the second SA so ill just refer to it as the KKZ. In 3S capcom decided to give akuma a hidden SA called the KKZ probaly because the first one is so damn hard to get in unless you connect it with a roundhouse or you are very good at fakeouts. So anyways this new SA was designend to be the ultimate special it done at least 75% of damage on any character and had an infinite invincibility frame but this special did have its defects. This move comes out so slow that any opponet can see it coming from anywhere on screen so this special is very difficult to get in. The irk i have with this special is its so called infinite invincibility frame because i can recall one time where i was fighting my friend at the arcade in 3S he had alex i had akuma. We were just fighting but him like an asshole chipped me to death, that no good cock in the ass fucks his own grandmother piece of shit! During the next round i decided to play the role of the asshole and chip him to death by doing the KKZ on him so i did but almost instantly after i pulled out the KKZ he done alex's stomp and was able to hit me out of my special WTF i lost the round. This letter is for anyone who has had similar experiences with the KKZ or knows something i dont to leave me a reply about it.
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Old 03-16-2004, 05:06 PM   #2
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akuma can get hit right before he punches the ground, thus stopping his super completely. wouldn't know why, since he is SUPPOSED to be invincible until after he hits the ground...
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Old 03-17-2004, 08:45 AM   #3
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thanks man, if you know any other wierd stuff about akumas 2nd hidden SA it would really help to know
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Old 03-18-2004, 11:29 AM   #4
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You can combo it off of a reset jab. So, like: c.mk, lk hurricane, reset jab, KKZ (I'm pretty sure this is the way it goes...ya' just gotta' make sure you input 2 of the down taps before the jab...and the jab has pretty rough timing)
I HAVE seen this landed in tournament play, too....just not frequently.
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You can combo it off of a reset jab. So, like: c.mk, lk hurricane, reset jab, KKZ (I'm pretty sure this is the way it goes...ya' just gotta' make sure you input 2 of the down taps before the jab...and the jab has pretty rough timing)
I HAVE seen this landed in tournament play, too....just not frequently.
Yeah, JR Rodriguez can do this; I've been on the business end of it quite a few times :( I'm not sure of the timing though, as I've tried it a lot but they always land first.
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Old 03-22-2004, 10:47 AM   #6
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Iv'e been trying to pull this combo on the dreamcast but i cant seem to do it so if anyone can leave me a link or a video that shows akuma doing this combo i would really appreciate it
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Old 03-27-2004, 07:21 PM   #7
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Old 03-27-2004, 09:08 PM   #8
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I know a player that dashes into the raging demon. VERY difficult to escape.
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Old 03-29-2004, 08:59 AM   #9
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I've also been trying to do a dash in raging demon but always seem to get the first jab in, but its potential is great. No one sees it coming and it is nearly inescapable.
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Old 03-29-2004, 09:08 AM   #10
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I've also been trying to do a dash in raging demon but always seem to get the first jab in, but its potential is great. No one sees it coming and it is nearly inescapable.

Just make sure you do the 2 jabs during the dash then as the dash ends F, lk,hp.
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Old 03-30-2004, 06:04 PM   #11
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Barely saw the video man those were some sweet ass matches and the akuma combo damn...damnnn! I gotta get better with my akuma or at least with the combos i cant do i.e. reset jab to KKZ.
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Old 03-31-2004, 02:27 AM   #12
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my motion for jab reset > kkz

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is everyone else doing this? because sometimes i get the crouching jab and it really annoys me =P
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Old 03-31-2004, 02:58 PM   #13
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I've also been trying to do a dash in raging demon but always seem to get the first jab in, but its potential is great. No one sees it coming and it is nearly inescapable.
As a matter of fact, raging demon at point-blank range is COMPLETELY inescapable if they don't hit you or jump before it comes out. Unlike slam dance or hyper bomb, you cannot jump out of it after the super flash.

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Old 04-01-2004, 05:49 PM   #14
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As for the Jab reset to KKZ thats baby piss just do the KKZ really fast immediatly as soon as you press Jab and it will combo if your fast enough.
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Old 04-02-2004, 01:18 PM   #15
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and if you're not fast enough you only lose 2 bars and half your life bar.
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Old 04-02-2004, 03:07 PM   #16
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As for the Jab reset to KKZ thats baby piss just do the KKZ really fast immediatly as soon as you press Jab and it will combo if your fast enough.
Is that an unblockable?

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Yes its unblockable as long as you do it right.
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Old 04-04-2004, 05:36 PM   #18
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one time? as in hurricane kick > jab > down > punch x 3?
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Old 04-08-2004, 07:26 AM   #22
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All this fuss over a KKZ reset SGS is a far better super so is messatsu gou hadou come to think of it. *sighs*
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Yeah.. Lightning super sucks..

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Old 04-09-2004, 12:54 PM   #24
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I dont know man, you sure just one down tap. Iv'e tried this on the DC and i got nothing. I done exactly what you said l.mk, weak tatsumaki, jab, down and all 3 punches. Were you trying to say that you need to have 2 of the down taps during the reset jab and then pull another down tap and all 3 punches or were you serious about only having to have one down tap.I seen your match against Frankie3s and i seen you pull said combo so please do tell exactly what you did when frankie screwed up on the tatsumaki.
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Old 04-09-2004, 02:28 PM   #25
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Bullshit.. You have to tap down 3 times.. Not just once. -_-

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