First off, here are the results from 3s:
- Alex Valle
- Justin Wong
Now let’s talk about the results. First off, everyone who is not familiar with this tourney can read the original thread here.
I’ll sum it up for anyone who didn’t know the deal. Basically JC Media was hosting a 3s and T5DR tourney at Buy.com’s LAN 2007 event. The tourney was set to use PS3s with converters for sticks. The entry fee was $25 and the prizes were $500, $200 and $100 respectively.
JC Media said:
With that said, here is what ACTUALLY happened. We were urged to get there at 2PM so the tourney could start at 3PM. Unfortunately Tekken ran late for one reason or another so we didn’t actually start until around 5 or 6PM. So that’s strike one.
We were promised that we were going to start on time and we didn’t and there was no apology or explanation.
Pretty much everyone brought their own PS2 joystick because we were told that they were going to have converters. Unfortunately NOBODY’S stick worked with the converters. The next thing we tried was using one of those new Hori sticks that are built for the PS3 that people use for Tekken. That didn’t work either, maybe because the PS3 doesn’t support non-PS3 pads for PS2 games? I’m not sure why it didn’t work, but it didn’t. We were lead to believe that all these technical kinks and issues were going to be worked out earlier in the week. Strike two.
At this point we had two choices.
- Get a refund and call it a day
- Reach some sort of compromise
Those that opted for the refund were met by a surprise and had to leave their contact information so that either they would be contacted or a check would be mailed. Even those who had paid in cash that day.
You might think that getting a refund was the best thing for everyone at this point and you are probably right, but the reason that a lot of us didn’t want to get refunds was because if everyone got refunds except for let’s say 4 or 5 people, then that increases those players’ chances of winning a significant chunk of change, regardless of whether they actually deserved it.
The compromise that we reached was that we could use PS2s, even though I specifically asked if we could bring our own and use those, but was told by JC Media on the 29th that we couldn’t because they didn’t want us to bring anything except a stick or joypad. Luckily, Ken I and someone else had a PS2 handy so we had that taken care of.
At this point, the shit hit the fan. The TVs used were causing massive lag on the PS2s, probably around 3/4 of a second! It was like playing on Xbox live except worse. After all the reassuring JC Media did, it didn’t matter. Whether or not they were the same TVs as they used in Washington DC, it didn’t matter. The TVs were hella laggy and there were only two things that we could do about it: get a refund and don’t play or use the only analog CRT TV in the ballroom.
Those of us that still didn’t want to make it any easier for other people to make some easy money wanted to use the analog CRT TV that was on stage and no longer being used because Tekken finals were over. Unfortunately we were told that we could not use that TV.
At this point everyone was pretty agitated and I don’t believe the JC Media staff was holding up their end of the bargain. CRTs were NOT purchased as promised and lag WAS a MAJOR problem even though we were assured it wasn’t.
At this point it was suggested that we all receive refunds and still play in the tourney for the money to compensate for this entire mess, but the JC Media staff did not want to do that.
Finally the tourney started on TWO DONATED PS2s while the rest of the event was coming to an end. They were literally taking down the entire set up, including all the lights, booths, banners, etc, WHILE WE WERE STILL PLAYING. The finals WERE NOT on stage as promised, as the lights were already on and pretty much everyone else had already gone home because the event was running late. Granted, part of the reason it ran so late was because the 12 of us that decided to stay and play collectively took a long time to make up our minds about exactly what to do about this, but obviously this shouldn’t have been an issue in the first place if:
- JC Media had actually taken the 2 minutes it took to test the setup that they had been advertising for over a month
- CRTs had been purchased
- JC Media would have allowed everyone to bring their PS2s and CRTs instead of telling us not to
I believe any of those options would have produced a great tournament, as the rest of the event was very well done.
In short, every promise JC Media made to us as a community was broken. We felt cheated, we started late, the finals were not on stage, the converters didn’t work and most importantly, THE TVS HAD LAG.
I can’t think of another time that the 3s community as a whole has been disrespected like this. JC Media continually asked us to pre-register as well as pay a huge entrance fee, but made no effort to show us the courtesy to just try out the setup they were planning to use before we actually started.
Mike Watson, Ken I, scottind, as well as myself all raised valid concerns about HDTV lag and joysticks and we were all assured that this would not be an issue and that we would not feel cheated.
There was a lot of talk in the past few weeks about how JC Media did not run good tournaments and about how we should not enter. I decided to have a little faith and not only pre-registered as requested but pre-paid with Paypal. Never in my wildest dreams could I have imagined that this tourney would have turned out so horribly wrong. For those of you that pre-registered and decided not to come or were thinking about it and decided not to come, you made the right decision. I was wrong for trying to support this tourney and giving them the benefit of the doubt. I wish I could have my 25 bucks back, but more importantly, I’d really like those 6 hours of my life back instead.
How To Fix This Ordeal**
- Admit responsibility
- Refund EVERYONE in full including the winners