Adon Strategy and Match-up Thread

welp, just found out something really helpful against AKUMA

high EX air hadouken? lk jaguar kick goes right under it

Adon doesn’t really have a block string to my knowledge. But what I do is somewhat of a Block string/Frame Trap.

Crouching LP, Crouching LP, Crouching MK, MK Jaguar Kick

It can be beaten but it looks safe and the thing is only about 1 or 2 moves can beat.

Lemme give you an example:

When I do it against Guy he can’t punish me unless 1 of 2 things

1: I mess up the Timing
2: He uses ex TATSU

those are the only two things that beat it when playing against Guy.

So experiment with it and use one jab sometimes depending on your spacing.

Yeah kinda figured that out by accident. but it happened more than once so I know it wasn’t a fluke

Dunno if this is the right place to post this…Thought you guys might be interested, we’re having a New characters only tourney (PSN) tomorrow:

http://shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=236621

Hope to see some of you there :tup:

Against a good fei long?

Hi, old timer from Brazil…
I am a Adon, Cody and Vega player.(no more shotos for me since sf4) Can you guys help me against good fei longs with Adon? Seen like well spaced rekkas, that get stopped on the 2nd in block strings are completaly safe, leading to “choice” in counter normal, flame kick or whatever he chooses…

Sorry, if I made some spelling or grammar errors.

little T. Hawk tip to punish the Condor Dive on reaction

  • If you can tell he wants to hit or chip, you can hit him with a light kick Jag. Tooth when hes coming at you, instead of taking the chip and hitting him with a jaguar kick

i dont know about doing jaguar tooth on condor dive but if i would rather block and get a knock down on hawk instead of ending up next to him :o

I havent read all the pages here, but I have some problems playing with blanka players. I know blankas roll can be punishable on block by using a lk jk, but good blankas dont use the roll. Blankas hop game is damn nasty and he can crossup like nothing. The thing Im thinking in testing is to turtle like hell. Im not used to turtling but against blanka I dont know what other option I have.
Anyone any tips?

yeah man blanka is a tough cookie, i have a hard time against him also

Blanka has a very high jump, and it makes it easy to dash under. Remember that simple jabs are your highest priority attack. By a lot. Poke poke poke until he doesn’t want to attack anymore, then start looking for an opening. It’s not an easy matchup at all, but you can keep Blanka honest.

EDIT

Are you doing this on reaction? If so, I want to know how many frames c.MK is and how many other moves have the same number of frames. This could revolutionize Adon’s footsie game.

For the blanka match up, I honestly feel confident against Blankas with Adon.

I always run with Jaguar Revolver. Once that meter is full, you’ve just shut down every blanka ball, every rainbow ball, and vertical ball. All of them are Ultra 1 punishable on block and Jaguar Kick punishable on block . I avoid as many Jaguar Tooths as possible because of the vertical ball. Only other tip I can give you is get used to Blanka mix ups and try and shut him down before he can’t get his rhythm going.

Okay, so I’ve been messing around with tk jks on grapplers a lot lately and it’s really devistating for them. In the gief matchup you can completely shut him down with neutral j. hk and the perfect way to set this up is baiting his spd and doing the ex tk jk to punish it. Same goes for abel and mostly any other grappler.

according to my friend who plays Ryu c.Mk is 5 frames when in complete animation and he told me its his longest recovery move.

I dont play by frame data though.

I just played the Ryu match up again right now, and I was able to punish low forward.
But it is all spacing based.

That’s what footsies are all about! Dancing around in and out of range to catch something or in this case punish.

I’ll have to look up the frame data on that move and see if any of Adon’s other tough matchups have an Achilles heel such as this. But the JK won’t be safe on anyone with a command throw.

Im used to play against ryus, and dont have many problems against them, but blankas are something different. I know you CAN punish blankas roll with U1, but for one reason or another I only have landed it once in at least 10 attempts. I think timing is strict here. You can use the U1 against a blocked normal honda sumo headbutt and it will hit 100% all the time, but with blanka if you use the U1 immediately after a blocked roll, you wont get the last animation that inflicts the real damage.
cr. HP seems to work against blanka somehow. Right now I think the matchup is a 4-6, and a turtlefest.

My 2 cents say that the blanka matchup is 5-5. Neither character has a safe approach. Both characters can be punished on blocked specials with ultra 1. It really comes down to who can be more patient. Noone is getting damage in this matchup unless they punish or take a risk.

In regards to punishing blanka balls with u1, you have to wait a second or so before punishing. If you do it right away and you get a reversal, you’ll likely only get the first 3 hits. You have to hit blanka after he lands, but before he recovers, which is like a 2-3 frame window.

I’m not sure if it’s been posted before, but i feel it’s important to note that t hawk’s condor dive can be punished with u1 as well. It’s like honda’s fierce headbutt, in that you can do it asap, and it’ll hit fully every time.

Played at a local tournament this past weekend. finished 9th out of 43. /sadface.

Lost to honda and rufus.

can’t say i’m experienced in either of those matchups yet.

for honda, I was doing well with zoning with s.mk to stuff headbutts. when headbutts weren’t coming, well timed jaguar kicks did the majority of damage. Being the genius I am, after finding out this was working I stopped doing it and eventually lost.

for rufus, I lost 3/4 matches do to ultra 2 eating my jaguar kick. I think i got hit a total of 4 times. 3 as an ultra kill from ultra’ing my jaguar kick and 1 from a jumpin. Not much to say about this matchup. Don’t Jump. Don’t do random jaguar kicks. Good defense and Knowledge that you can rising jaguar fadc or trade rising jaguar into ultra in some cases will keep Rufus from dive kicking you to death.

Adons alt, colors 2, 5, 7, and 10

best colors

This.

Adon’s dash > Blanka’s crossup. Hell Adon’s dash > every crossup.

It’s that quick wake up mixed with that buff forward dash. You can even go under demon flip and cross up tatsu.