Any vegans or veggies here?

This is after all a thread intended to bring out the veggies or vegans in the community, why are you even here? Go to KFC or something. Having hecklers around bull baits technical discussions - cause and effect.

Also,* Soap boxing* is a layman attempt to describe pontificating. Here’s the problem kiddo, when we bring up things that are falsifiable we are no longer proposing a dogma. Your tantrum (and lightbulb jokes? didnt know those existed anymore) is to be expected as you are holding to a losing position, being defensive in that situation is natural. Now, calm your man-tits and read the title of this page. Read closely, I know its hard. This is for vegans, not for you. I made the disclaimer as I didn’t want another boring technical debate I just want to talk about food or light subjects here.

I try to do the “free range/grass fed” thing when it comes to eating animal products. I think the whole argument of “humans aren’t meant to eat meat” is absolutely absurd (we have incisors for a reason), but the animal products will have all kinds of shit in it that you don’t want in the typical locations of raising 'em, from hormones to natural body chemicals released due to trauma that just taint it all. You know how much more tender a piece of meat will be if the animal isn’t absolutely horrified before its death? If the last thing they do is tense up, it makes for poor meat.

With all that shit going down, it’s unsurprising people go vegan these days. It just sucks 'cause animal products are far and away the best forms of protein we can consume. That, and a vegan lifestyle is fucking expensive. So is a “free range” lifestyle, for that matter.

That being said, any of you vegans in here obtain telekinetic powers yet?

I will avoid the tooth debate as its documented to be null with regard to dietary predisposition, plenty of great lectures on YouTube. That said, I will not argue that humans are “meant” to eat meat, as they had to at one point. Many believe our venture from the bonobo-esque diet we came from (we still have the same tongue and intestinal layout) occurred due to a predictable food shortage. All that said, meat is an after-the-fact development. I hold it was useful for a time before we could properly farm, now its arcane and ego-driven (as is the case for meat consumption among Chimpanzees, its a display of dominance).

I must say, please do not propose the “veganism is expensive” argument, its a myth. I can live off fruit for $35 per week, rice is ~$1 per 1000 calories or less, add peas (dirt cheap) and you complete the two missing BCAA’s. Mexican food is dirt cheap, easily appropriated for vegans. Beans + tortilla. Vitamins are cheaper for vegans, Kale will eclipse most rivals and is cheaper than chard. Vegan powers tend be strange behavior from animals, clear skin, good cardio, etc. Telekinesis would be awesome tho. Imagine multitasking with invisible arms. Another strange power among aging vegan women is looking younger, the side effect for vegan males is dreadlocks form after about 3 years being vegan.

I skimmed over the thread, but what is OP’s rationale on being vegan?

Fag

Perhaps you should read your first post before you start telling others to read the title, I seem to remember something about not being preachy there.

i’ll edit whenever I got more time but pretty much the sentiment of “killing animals” is blown out of proportion. I’ve heard that vegan leader comparing chicken farms to the holocaust and then saying “it’s slaughter” and how could you eat something that has suffered for your pleasure, etc etc. Well, according to that logic, eating plants is ok because? Oh right, plants “don’t suffer”, they just die. Cool story. Without trolling, these people are saying that if let’s say a cow was not raised the way it is now but instead raised in a sort of theme park life with massages and stuff and then put to sleep (the same way dogs are put down “humanely” whenever they are suffering too much) in a painless way you would be ok with that right? So it’s not about “zomg killing animals is bad” because you would still not touch that cow.

It’s a flawed argument that leads into a healthy lifestyle.

I’ll also comment later on how people have seem to forgotten that some species exist solely because humans “made” them. Like the dog or cow. Dogs didn’t exist. They are actually wolves mutated (Canis lupus and Canis familiaris) by early humans that took them to help them with tasks such as hunting/herding/company/etc. Same thing with cows. Cows are a mutation/evolution/whatever of a wild bovine that existed before. Not a single wild bovine contains the amount of fat and eats as much as cow. Cows are the result of years of farming. Dogs aren’t wild animals. Cows aren’t wild animals. Leave a cow for a year in the wild, see if she is still alive. Diseases, lack of food, predators, etc will have your cow medium rare before your hippie mind realizes they can’t survive on their own. Same shit happens with dogs, all those street dogs barely survive on trash and whatever they find before they spread diseases or get become road kill. So is it ok to raise them for us to consume their meat? I don’t see any “ethical” reason why not. Are the conditions in the US too extreme maybe when it comes to animal treatment? Sure, lobbies will probably keep it that way independently of your life choice. Could they be raised differently? Yes, Europe and Canada already do. Should we stop eating meat then? Up to you but there are options out there if you are against animal cruelty just so you know.

Jokes about vegans thread? Okay!

How many vegans does it take to change a lightbulb?

Spoiler

They’ll never change anything.

On a serious note, was a vegetarian for the first 16 years of my life, was the last person to find out. Technically a pescatarian or whatever since fish was allowed. Still eat a fair amount of Quorn and Sosmix stuff and at work, ordering vegetarian is the only way to guarantee fresh food.

I’ve mentioned it before on here, but Hugh Fearnley Wittingstall’s book, Veg Everyday, is great and you’ll learn a lot from it.

Anyone in New York or LA should check out Babycakes NYC, vegan pancakes, waffles, donuts, frosted cupcakes, you name it.

Alright man, I’ll chill back on the jokes. Sorry for being offensive, but I’ve had mean vegans try to tell me what I should be eating and it pisses me off. But that doesn’t give me the right to be rude to you. Sorry.

For what it’s worth, I try to buy local beef and pork from the butcher, and I always get free range, organic fed chicken and eggs.

I have a question for you though- what is your stance on honey? Are bees considered animals and is honey an animal product? That’s a serious question, and if you can answer it I’ll stay out of your thread and not heckle anymore :smiley:

Ur not offensive, ur morelike the guy that sits behind u in a theater cackling at the non-funny scenes. just noisy.

I love pancakes, recently I learned how to make them with a rice cooker.they come out cray.

Dude, I totally do that!

My rationale at first was that it was an experiment. I was into local game and organic meat before, then I decided to see what would happen if I adopted a vegan diet. So far so good. The meat I consumed was organic chicken, elk, venison, and salmon. So I figured the confirmation bias of switching from bad meats to good veggies would be eliminated as I already ate the good stuff.

My primary sport is trail running, but its rattlesnake season so I cant

I assumed as much. I don’t take u seriously at all tho so you can act out all u want.

Well that’s a relief. I’m not here to be taken seriously, obviously.

But seriously, what’s up with honey?

Ok, I’ll revise. Veganism is expensive if you want to eat well and not just survive. The above “cheap vegan” is tastebuds optional, and barely beyond the variety of a college student’s ‘meals’. Making GOOD vegan food gets pricey. Same goes for going free range, same goes for going gluten free (though I’m pretty sure this one’s the most expensive of the lot). I know that one all too well considering my wife’s limitations. They’re ultimately better options, and if you do it right, you should be able to get away with eating less due to the diet, but more often than not, you’re going to see a bigger dent in your wallet from food alone (which at the same time could be merely shifted from the medical expenses you previously were spending due to the unhealthy eating habits).

It also really depends on your location. Areas that are more vegan friendly are going to have more competitive prices. You’ll more likely be able to find comparable goods in Portland than you would, say, Atlanta.

And my god help me if that telekinesis joke went over your head.

Best option to avoid cruelty is not eating meat, I don’t expect others to feel guilty for being part of the industry as when I was a meat eater I had none either. It would be unfair to use veganism to try and put others down, for basically being in the same position I was in. I don’t want to get into the technical arguments here, butts will get hurt. I’m always interested in the technical debate among those who hold oppose subjectivity, else its just talking past one another. PM me an invite if you use an intellectual forum or start a thread with that intention. For now, I really just want to know who in the SRK FGC is on the veggie level.

Again wrong, seriously just ask if you want answers. As for the joke, it didn’t, but I wanted to throw in a dreadlock reference since its my favorite stereotype.

Unfortunately I mostly cook Asian food, so I can’t offer that many cheap+good American recipes. But I assure you that cost-wise, unless you got local game (like me), being vegan is still cheaper. Most of the “VEGAN ANTI-GMO #BANBOSSY” labels out there are marketing gimicks. What IS pricey is the Organic Frutarian diet or one that includes a bunch of processed foods. Vegan paddies (if you like burgers) are totally cheap to make as the primary component is black bean. If you are seriously curious about cost-effective vegan recipes I can post some links. The college-diet quip is funny, as I’ll eat burritos any time anywhere and dgaf what social context it has XD. My discovery of how to make good chipotle sauce has basically merged the Burrito dimension with my own.

All I gotta say in regards to cost is my wife has done a lot of experimentation with various styles of food due to her gluten sensitivity, including lots of rather good vegan dishes, and they still end up costing about the same per serving than a solid steak dinner (homecooked). That, to me, is expensive. Eating burritos is fine once in a while, but fuck that shit’ll get old quick. I do like my bocaburgers as an alternative, but my wife can’t eat that.

And you really, REALLY need to either read or watch Scott Pilgrim, man. That joke should be flyin’ over no one’s heads.

This, overall the cost will balance (unless u make things from scratch). Going vegan to cut food expense is ill advised imo as that mentality could lead to messing up macros. Ive never seen Scott Pilgrim. Boca is bottom tier, but still tasty in a pinch. I disagree on getting old with burritos man, just thinking about burritos makes me want to tear down a wall to get to one. add the avocado and fresh crunchy veggies and im seeing red.

Fix this before I start calling you LordWilliam the 2nd.