Blasphemy! Recording Erros in the Offical Bible


#1

Yes it’s true, our beloved word of God is unfortunately imperfect.
Join this project, get a copy and help proof read and improve the Holy Book by leaving your corrections here.

This is a community effort where all players can share findings and proof read each others’ work and will ideally (when finished) will serve as a point that perhaps whoever is responsible for the digital version of the bible can use it for an update.

Treat this as a science
Share with everyone your findings but also explain in detail method used to generate your result and if possible explain how the method works and how we can safety trust your finding(s).

The subsequent posts will be divided
To begin it’ll be divided between information regarding general game play, and character specific information.

Have at it
Happy Blaspheming!


#2

Forward Dashes

forward dashes

Spoiler

Correct (Listed Error)

Dudley = 18, (19)
Rose = 20 (19)
Hugo = 22(21)

Oil Hakan = 18
Dry Hakan = 20 (not listed)

Back Dashes

Back Dashes

Spoiler

Dudley = 24 (25)
M.Bison = 25 (26)
C.Viper = 28 (27)
Cody = 26 (27)
Gen = 28 (27)
Makoto = 28 (27)
Oni = 28 (27)
Yang = 28 (27)
Yun = 28(27)

Explanation

[spoiler = explanation]
*I make the assumption that all level one focus attacks in the game inflict 16 frames of block stun on the opponent

One example and explanation as to how I did this.

If a character’s forward dash is 20 frames, lets use Blanka for example
you would take the number 16* and subtract 20

16-20 =-4

So that means, after a level 1 focus attack + forward dash, Blanka would be -4 (frame disadvantage)
meaning he could be punished with 4 frame specials (or faster) but Not be 5 frame reversals (or slower)

Training mode: Verified that Blanka is indeed -4
Punished by **4 frame reversals
Guile’s Flash Kick
Ken’s mp Dp
Adon’s lk Dp
Guy’s Ex tatsu

and is NOT punished by ***5 Frame reversals
Sagat’s Dp
Cammy’s dp
Fei Long’s dp

One more example
Ryu’s forward dash is correctly listed as 18
we can verify this

16 - 18 = -2
-2 = Punishable by Zangief’s spd(2 frames) but NOT by Seth’s Spd(3 frames)
In training mode
Have Ryu be the dummy
Record Ryu doing a level up focus attack + forward dash and then hold up!

Pick Zangief and Seth
Use their command grabs and record the results

*So the idea is to determine the frame disadvantage on a lvl1 attack + forward dash by using the appropriate speed reversals and then using that data to calculate the forward dash.
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Reversals’ used in training mode

Reversals

Spoiler

of frames

1 - Zangief Ultra I
2 - Zangief SPD, Ken’s lp Super, Chun-li’s super, Command Grab Ultras from non-grapplers
3 - Ken Hp Dp, Dudley Hp Dp, Seth and Hakan SPD
4 - Ken Mp Dp, Adon Lk Dp, Guile Flash Kick, Guy Ex Tatsu, Hugo Ex Wall Grab
5 - Sagat Cammy Fei Long Dp Abel/Honda/Makoto Ex Command Grab
6 - Abel Super, Fei Long Lp Super, Makoto Ultra I, Viper Ultra I
7 - Cody Ultra II, Rolento Ultra II, Fei Long Lp Rekka, Makoto lk Karakusa
8 - Dudley Ultra I, Makoto mk Karakusa
9 - Rufus Ultra I, Fei Long Mp Rekka Makoto Hk Karakusa
10 - Seth, Fei Long, Cammy Ultra I, Fei Long Hp Rekka
11- Cody Mk Ruffian
12 - Hugo Super, Ibuki Lk Tsumuji, Poison Lp Rekka
13 - Abel Ex Cod (his new buff :))
14 - Abel Ultra I
15 - Dan Ultra II
16 - Abel Mp Cod
17 - Abel Hp Cod


#3

save


#4

Characters

Abel

Abel

[details=Spoiler][/details]
Adon

[spoiler= Adon][/details]

Akuma

Akuma

[details=Spoiler][/details]
Balrog

[spoiler= Balrog][/details]

Blanka

Blanka

[details=Spoiler][/details]
C.Viper

[spoiler= C.Viper][/details]

Cammy

Cammy

[details=Spoiler][/details]
Chun-Li

[spoiler= Chun-li][/details]

Cody

Cody

[details=Spoiler][/details]
Dan

[spoiler= Dan][/details]

Decapre

Decapre

[details=Spoiler][/details]
Dee Jay

[spoiler= Dee Jay][/details]

Dhalsim

Dhalsim

[details=Spoiler][/details]
Dudley

[spoiler= Dudley][/details]

E.Honda

E. Honda

[details=Spoiler][/details]
El Fuerte

[spoiler= El Fuerte][/details]

Elena

[spoiler = Elena][/details]
Evil Ryu

Evil Ryu

[details=Spoiler][/details]
Fei Long

[spoiler= Fei Long][/details]

Gen

Gen

[details=Spoiler][/details]
Gouken

[spoiler= Gouken][/details]

Guile

[spoiler= Guile][/details]


#5

Guy

Guy

[details=Spoiler][/details]
Hakan

[spoiler= Hakan][/details]

Hugo

Hugo

[details=Spoiler][/details]
Ibuki

[spoiler= Ibuki][/details]

Juri

Juri

[details=Spoiler][/details]
Ken

[spoiler= Ken][/details]

M.Bison

M.Bison

[details=Spoiler][/details]
Makoto

[spoiler= Makoto][/details]

Oni

Oni

[details=Spoiler][/details]
Poison

[spoiler= poison][/details]

Rolento

Rolento

[details=Spoiler][/details]
Rose

[spoiler= Rose][/details]

Rufus

Rufus

[details=Spoiler][/details]
Ryu

[spoiler= Ryu][/details]

Sagat

Sagat

[details=Spoiler][/details]
Sakura

[spoiler= Sakura][/details]

Seth

Seth

[details=Spoiler][/details]
T.Hawk

[spoiler= T.Hawk][/details]

Vega

Vega

[details=Spoiler][/details]
Yang

[spoiler= Yang][/details]

Yun

Yun

[details=Spoiler][/details]
Zangief

[spoiler= Zangief][/details]


#6

save


#7

Ryu’s close standing roundhouse mistakenly listed as special and super cancelable.
It is in fact only super cancelable.


#8

Nice touch with the typo in the title.


#9

Ken
far standing MP listed as 80 damage its actually 70
Crouching HK listed as having 20 recovery frames it has 21 recovery frames.


#10

How did you figure the recovery part?


#11

@splurgendii‌ Dantarion’s tool. They removed two frames of blockstun from his AE2012 sweep and removed one start up frame everything else is the same

8/3/21 [-6] > 7/3/21 [-8]

Arcade was 7/3/19 [-6] :frowning:


#12

I know that it lists Yang’s Forward walk speed as 0.047 in the book, I dunno about the digital version. It’s 0.057 in actuality

Note that they are updating the digital version with corrections.

P.S. best of luck! Sounds like a large under taking for this project, I know how much work something like this can be :wink:


#13

merging with the thread for this


#14

Is there a complete list of the things that are different from what the Official Bible says? Frame data changes and/or anything else. I want to pencil in the changes to keep it current. :slight_smile:


#15

If they’re updating the digital version, then I guess it would make sense to just crossreference with the book as they update it?