Can of Worms: Death of Vortex style... Life of a new one

akuma

#1

Yo yo, Akuma players. I know you’re not deaf. People are hatin on vortexes left and right. Capcom is listening. I start this discussion for the sake of you guys to let your voices get heard. There’s a definite if not strong possibility that Akuma’s vortex is gettin the nerfstick based on all the hate people are givin vortexes in general.

Question for Discussion: What areas would you buff Akuma in if he was to get nerfed in the vortex area?

Also feel free to approach this from any degree of nerfing as possible. If Capcom decides to slightly nerf it with a scalpel, what would you buff? If Capcom decides to take the meat cleaver and hack the vortex to pieces, what would you buff?

Akuma is the demon of Ansatsuken and must stay that way by any means necessary. *takes off Malcom X hat


#2

If they take away the vortex, they have to improve his normals and srk. Might as well just turn him into a ryu with a demon flip and air fireballs if they kill the vortex.


#3

Akumas vortex has been nerfed with each version of the game , nothing left to complain about, we just wait for the changes and adjust our playstyles accordingly . I am almost sure they will nerf his demon flip palm and buff his ultra 2(they love buffing this thing…)


#4

You need to be more specific when you simply say “nerf vortex.”

“Vortex” is a blanket statement that covers a number of mix-up options, all of which aren’t exactly unique to Akuma, although he certainly has more to bring to the table than many characters.

If for example his sweep gains extended recovery, it would cut some setups down. Likewise for extended recovery on his flip grab and also palm. If this were the case and his mix-ups were cut into in such a way, I’d perhaps prefer they relegated him to a damage and stun centric character ala vanilla. Akuma’s oki game exploitation was largely motivated by Capcom cutting into his damage and stun output, which forced us to get dirty to actually deal damage that otherwise came from creative attacking and solid punishing.

A 90 dmg lk tatsu and 160 dmg + 200 stun redball might be an interesting place to start along with sweep (i.e. from lk tatsu) dealing 110 dmg and 150 stun along with fs.hk being a viable option to FADC into after a fireball again. These ideas on paper are absurd, though they are on the assumption his Super/AE/2012 mixup game takes a serious hit and are on the onus he spends a good deal of meter to achieve maximised damage. I guess in a sense he’d return to an explosive damage + stun character somewhat below Evil Ryu albeit with perhaps better mobility.

Its hard to speculate though. I prefer the wait and see approach as its completely unknown as to how Capcom intend to change him, if at all. The character will always remain ‘good’ though I think the biggest fear I have personally is that his changes may well render him sluggish in some way. Once the feel of a character is meddled with in this sense it is very frustrating, particularly for those of us who have been using him since vanilla dropped.

We may well see a change to how Capcom handle hard knock-downs also. One idea many have tossed around is the idea of burning a stock to perform some kind of evasive quick-rise from a UTK. While somewhat “un-Street Fighter” it would assist many characters who have fickle or outright non-existent options on knock-down which in itself is a ‘nerf’ to Akuma and indeed any character who enjoys a bit of exploitative wake-up fuckery which has become a huge component of SFIV’s meta game.


#5

guys hes a spammer and a troll

lol he actually changed the name of the thread after it was closed


#6

SRK is the new FoxNews*.

  • insert any bullshit/useless/braindead fanatics channel here.

And yeah I figured with that much post activity in one day Learis1 wasn’t genuine curious… The subject of the posts spoke by themselves.
I’ll make a new thread talking about st.cl.mk. We need some serous thread after these months of bullshit.


#7

u r being sarcastic yes? o btw mods plz close this thread


#8

leave akuma how he is, leave Fei Long how he is (best designed and fairest toptier), buff the rest of the loser cast


#9

lol he really did make a thread here. What an idiot