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#5484

You know all that bullshit moves that leave certain characters minus but spaced so well that that get you raped if you trying to press a button?
Juri’s s.MK beats all of those situations.


#5485

Messing with iconic designs like Ryu and Ken is usually asking for a disaster. The classic shotos are probably never going to change considerably design-wise, and that’s probably for the best.

Ken is a little more open to changes though, because nobody really wants him to be a Ryu clone anymore.


#5486

Like for all of the people that complain about the minus 2 stuff, they must not know Juri exists.

Juri is the queen of safe minus and in some situations its essentially plus. She’s completely built around the safe minus system.


#5487

The worst is her stores. Im sure they’re negative but I’ll be damned if they ever behaved like it.


#5488

Does it only start off raw 5B?

If so, it probably won’t come up very much. But hey, that’s BB every starter has a different optimal combo.


#5489

And Ed’s fucking flicker punch…


#5490

Goddamn I get away with so much bullshit after a blocked store. All people need to do is press a long medium button like a cr.MK and she is toast.


#5491

Raw 5B, commonly used as punish Combo.

You can do 236B and then the IAD route as punish.
It is the most optimal midscreen combo you can get, since 4k without meter is pretty beafy.


#5492

Super off topic but , GRID 2 ( racing game ) is free on Humble Bundle if anyone is interested.


#5493

@deviljin_01 who was that umvc3 cat that would go into random subforums and find tech for their characters?

Guy who discovered viperball?


#5494

Aren’t all her stores - 2 on block?


#5495

Lambda/Nu always hit hard when the got it.

If memory serves its a 10 frame 5B? I’m surprised there are many punish situations for it, at least where you wouldn’t instead lead with a fatal counter.

I remember with Mu it was the 2B that mattered for most BnB stuff. But Mu 2B was a lot better than Lambda 2B.


#5496

Back before you could tech throws, command grabs weren’t all that unique to begin with.


#5497

The storing move is minus 2, the stores themselves are -2 / -4 / -6


#5498

It was because of range amd damage. Piledriver dealt significantly more damage than regular throws.


#5499

The storing itself is -2 and yet a lot of people will not punish a button after, a lot of times I autopilot a blocked store into cr.MK (6f) xx fireball, which basically gets me back the turn on block due to spacing, because for some reason people don’t take their turn after the blocked fuha


#5500

Pretty sure you’re talking about @Chrisis

I remember us always complaining about how Marlin Pie would just kinda beat his own drum and never use any of the tech. Then Full Schedule came out the woodwork and got a 90 button stick just to do her viper ball and FADC shit LOL.


#5501

they are but some specific blockstrings will leave the opponent at a range where his lights will whiff and the extending hurtbox will get clipped by her st.mk hitbox
e.g. IIRC Chun’s cr.lk after Juri’s cr.lp, st.mp xx store string will whiff and get hit by her st.mk, she needs to press cr.mk to get her turn back


#5502

Mus Buttons are overall Slower than Lambdas and Lambda has overall Safer Pressure than Nu in comparison.

Lambda in CS was also more of a Nu reskin, than Lambda herself.
She’s a different character in CP and CF. Instead of being a full on Zoner, she’s a Zoning/Pressure hybrid with high mobility and ridicoulis Corner game.

Also it’s a 8F Button, meaning with IB you can punish a lot and you can CH a lot of Moves, after they’re slightly - and try to keep their turn. It’s also only -3 what makes it a decent stagger ender. The Hitbox is quiet good. (missread the line)
2B is 9F and 0 on block, her main stagger ender. Hitbox is really good, runup 2B is a great thing to have.


#5503

Ranked today for me.

Akuma, Bison,Akuma,Bison,Akuma,Bison,Akuma,Bison,Akuma,Bison,Guile,yolo Alex then back to Akuma,Bison.