Community Tierlist - Guy help requested!

guy

#1

Hello Guy mainers,

At Community Tierlist - overview you can see a brand new dynamic tierlist which is a combined effort of all people on the SRK character forums.

The goal of this web application is to get all people who main a certain character to give their opinion on that character matchups, and then to combine all that data in one overall list.
The idea worked pretty well when performed by the Rose forum (http://shoryuken.com/f277/rose-mis-fortunes-rose-match-up-poll-263465/), most users reached a consensus and Rose got a nice analysis that ranked her around 13th to 17th place, on par with the latest opinions on her by American and Japanese top players.

If all character forums take a small effort to go vote on their character we will get:
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[] a per character average of matchups
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] a community-generated tierlist
[] a cross-matchup view on each matchup (as for example Guy vs Ryu will be ranked both in Guy view as in Ryu view)
[
] and when enough data is provided: a statistical view on contested matchups, on agreed upon matchups and more!
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Because this list is open, and inputs are sensitive I took a few measure to get better results:
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[] You can only vote once per character
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] You need to provide the forumcode of you character to validate your vote (provided here), so that you can’t simply click around and vote on anything you want
[*] The extreme votes are removed statistically (10% lowest and 10% highest are discounted)
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Abel forumcode is: guy102731
Please copy/paste this in the forumcode box

I will gradually go to each character forum to collect votes. After your vote you can copy/paste your input to this thread for further discussion.

Hopefully we get a good result! :slight_smile:

Web application: Community Tierlist - overview
Forumcode: guy102731


#2

Here’s what I voted:

viper: 6.0
guile: 5.5
bison: 4.5
chun: 4.5
deejay: 5.5
ibuki: 5.0
seth: 6.0
vega: 5.0
dudley: 5.0
sagat: 5.0
cammy: 4.5
makoto: 6.0
dhalsim: 4.5
rufus: 4.5
gouken: 6.0
adon: 5.0
ken: 5.0
rose: 4.5
hakan: 5.5
akuma: 4.5
balrog: 4.0
honda: 3.0
zangief: 4.0
dan: 5.5
sakura: 5.0
ryu: 4.0
hawk: 4.5
cody: 5.5
fei: 4.0
abel: 5.0
blanka: 4.5
juri: 4.5

I didn’t vote on the match ups against El Fuerte and Gen.

And, according to the poll, here’s what Guy’s match up numbers are looking like:

Community tierlist - Character Viewer


#3

User Cheech Wizard voted on guy
viper: 5.0
guile: 4.0
bison: 4.0
chun: 5.0
deejay: 5.0
ibuki: 5.0
seth: 5.0
vega: 5.0
fuerte: 5.0
dudley: 5.0
sagat: 4.0
cammy: 4.0
makoto: 5.0
dhalsim: 5.0
rufus: 5.0
gouken: 5.0
adon: 5.0
ken: 5.0
rose: 4.0
hakan: 5.0
akuma: 4.0
balrog: 3.0
honda: 3.0
zangief: 5.0
dan: 5.0
sakura: 5.0
gen: 5.0
ryu: 3.0
hawk: 5.0
cody: 5.0
fei: 5.0
abel: 4.0
blanka: 5.0
juri: 5.0

I refuse to use .5’s in my list.


#4

User Lord_BlueFungus voted on guy
viper: 6.5
guile: 5.0
bison: 5.0
chun: 5.0
deejay: 4.5
ibuki: 5.0
seth: 7.0
vega: 6.0
fuerte: 5.0
dudley: 5.0
sagat: 5.0
cammy: 5.0
makoto: 6.5
dhalsim: 5.0
rufus: 4.5
gouken: 7.0
adon: 5.5
ken: 5.0
rose: 4.0
hakan: 6.0
akuma: 5.0
balrog: 5.0
honda: 5.0
zangief: 4.0
dan: 7.0
sakura: 6.0
gen: 5.5
ryu: 4.0
hawk: 5.0
cody: 5.0
fei: 4.5
abel: 5.0
blanka: 6.0
juri: 5.0


#5

User Shadoken voted on guy
viper: 5.0
guile: 5.5
bison: 5.0
chun: 4.5
deejay: 5.0
seth: 6.0
ibuki: 5.0
vega: 5.5
fuerte: 5.5
dudley: 5.5
sagat: 4.5
cammy: 4.5
makoto: 5.5
dhalsim: 4.5
rufus: 5.5
gouken: 5.5
adon: 5.0
ken: 4.5
hakan: 5.0
rose: 3.5
akuma: 5.0
balrog: 5.0
honda: 3.5
zangief: 5.0
dan: 6.0
sakura: 5.5
gen: 5.5
ryu: 4.5
hawk: 5.5
fei: 4.0
cody: 5.5
abel: 4.5
blanka: 5.0
juri: 4.5


#6

User Losha voted on guy
viper: 5.5
guile: 4.0
bison: 3.5
chun: 4.0
deejay: 4.5
seth: 4.5
ibuki: 5.0
vega: 5.5
fuerte: 4.5
dudley: 5.0
sagat: 4.5
cammy: 4.5
makoto: 6.0
dhalsim: 4.0
rufus: 4.5
gouken: 6.0
adon: 4.5
ken: 4.5
hakan: 5.5
rose: 3.5
akuma: 4.5
balrog: 4.0
honda: 3.0
zangief: 4.0
dan: 5.5
sakura: 5.0
ryu: 3.5
hawk: 4.5
fei: 4.0
cody: 4.5
abel: 4.5
blanka: 5.5
juri: 5.0

Didnt vote on Gen I think. Pretty even all around I 'spose.


#7

User Alboshinobi voted on guy
viper: 4.5
guile: 4.5
bison: 4.5
chun: 5.0
deejay: 4.5
seth: 5.0
ibuki: 5.0
vega: 5.0
fuerte: 5.0
dudley: 5.0
sagat: 5.0
cammy: 4.5
makoto: 5.0
dhalsim: 4.5
rufus: 5.0
gouken: 5.5
adon: 4.5
ken: 4.5
hakan: 6.0
rose: 4.0
akuma: 4.5
balrog: 4.0
honda: 4.0
zangief: 4.0
dan: 6.0
sakura: 5.0
gen: 5.0
ryu: 4.0
hawk: 5.0
fei: 4.0
cody: 5.0
abel: 5.0
blanka: 6.0
juri: 4.5

I think I got some AE matchups mixed with ssf4 lol but its not much different


#8

I think it’s pretty obvious that the results will be far from the actual truth because the opinions differ too much (especially for Guy), but here’s my take:

viper: 5.0
guile: 6.0
bison: 5.0
chun: 5.0
deejay: 5.0
seth: 6.0
ibuki: 5.0
vega: 5.0
fuerte: 5.0
dudley: 5.0
sagat: 5.5
cammy: 5.0
makoto: 6.0
dhalsim: 6.0
rufus: 5.5
gouken: 6.5
adon: 5.0
ken: 5.0
hakan: 6.0
rose: 5.0
akuma: 4.0
balrog: 5.5
honda: 4.0
zangief: 5.0
dan: 6.0
sakura: 6.0
gen: 5.0
ryu: 5.0
hawk: 5.0
fei: 5.0
cody: 6.0
abel: 4.5
blanka: 6.0
juri: 5.0


#9

User Blooddrunk voted on guy
viper: 5.5
guile: 5.0
bison: 4.5
chun: 5.0
deejay: 5.0
ibuki: 5.0
seth: 5.5
vega: 5.0
fuerte: 5.0
dudley: 5.0
sagat: 5.0
cammy: 5.0
makoto: 5.5
dhalsim: 4.5
rufus: 4.5
gouken: 6.0
adon: 5.0
ken: 5.0
rose: 4.5
hakan: 6.5
akuma: 5.0
balrog: 4.5
honda: 4.0
zangief: 4.5
dan: 6.0
sakura: 5.5
gen: 5.0
ryu: 5.0
hawk: 5.5
cody: 5.0
fei: 4.5
abel: 5.0
blanka: 5.0
juri: 5.5

Played a few games yesterday had a bit of more insight on a few matches but pretty much the same.


#10

Using .5’s are weird to me, I’m not gonna use them either.

My List.

C. Viper: 6.0
Guile: 5.0
M. Bison: 3.0
Chun Li: 5.0
DeeJay: 5.0
Seth: 6.0
Ibuki: 5.0
Vega: 4.0
El Fuerte: 6.0
Dudley: 5.0
Sagat: 5.0
Cammy: 5.0
Makoto: 6.0
Dhalsim: 4.0
Rufus: 6.0
Gouken: 6.0
Adon: 5.0
Ken: 5.0
Hakan: 6.0
Rose: 4.0
Akuma: 5.0
Balrog: 4.0
Honda: 4.0
Zangief: 4.0
Dan: 7.0
Sakura: 5.0
Gen: 6.0
Ryu: 5.0
Hawk: 4.0
Fei: 4.0
Cody: 5.0
Abel: 4.0
Blanka: 4.0
Juri: 4.0


#11

User Legend Of K1 voted on guy
viper: 6.0
guile: 5.5
bison: 4.0
chun: 4.5
deejay: 5.0
seth: 5.0
ibuki: 5.0
vega: 5.0
fuerte: 5.0
dudley: 5.0
sagat: 5.0
cammy: 4.0
makoto: 5.5
dhalsim: 6.0
rufus: 5.0
gouken: 6.5
adon: 5.5
ken: 4.5
hakan: 6.0
rose: 4.0
akuma: 4.5
balrog: 5.0
honda: 4.0
zangief: 4.5
dan: 5.5
sakura: 4.5
gen: 5.0
ryu: 4.5
hawk: 5.0
fei: 3.5
cody: 5.5
abel: 5.0
blanka: 4.5
juri: 4.0

the only thing i can comment on is the fact that i have no idea what Juri’s yall are playing because Juri can completely and utterly destroy Guy. She has ALL the tools she need to keep him out EASILY, and if she gets him on wakeup, he cant do jack shit. the matchup is basically free if she gets Guy knocked down, and even moreso if hes in the corner on knockdown. this is how i view the guy / juri matchup:

1/2 - full screen distance: 6/4 Juri’s favor. If Juri doesnt want Guy in, hes not getting in. Period.

Juri on wakeup: 6/4 - 6.5/3.5 Guys favor. Depends on the amount of matchup knowledge both players have. Guy can put a lot of pressure on Juri and can hurt her pretty bad once shes on wakeup. There are two problems with this though. 1) Guy needs to get in and get a knockdown. 2) Guy cant play 50/50 crossup shenanigans with Juri. She gets a free get out of jail card with EX counter. dont even try and say " oh i can bait it out". EX counter is a 1 frame move and can EASILY be done on reaction if youre buffering.

Guy on wakeup: 6/4 - 7/3 Juri’s favor. Guy isnt getting away from Juri when hes on knockdown no matter what he does. Plain and simple. he cant reversal, he cant backdash, he cant even bushin flip vs a meaty fireball because juri recovers too fast. he cant do jack shit except block. If Juri has FSE active ? psh forget about it. Its basically lights out.

no one has to believe what i say about this of course, but ive been on both sides of the match as a former Guy main, and as a current Juri main. either way, those are just my 2 cents.

  • K1

#12

I honestly think it goes either way, It all depends on who can pressure the other harder, plus Juri knows not to get hit often by Guy so she will opt to try and go for the zoning method which is better for cause she can keep Guy out well, but once Guy gets in or if Juri makes a painful mistake. 2-3 Combos can lead to stun and even death. Only her EX counter is useful IF she does the dashes if she jumps up its a free EX tatsu or TK Izuna. Same goes for her Divekicks they are not smart to use to try and get in on Guy, Neither of the two can really reversal each other, Guy can easily grab her out of Pinwheel with Izuna or Bushin, as well as her backdash.

But K1 I’d like to fight your Juri is as well as your Gen :stuck_out_tongue:


#13

sure thing Blood, just send me a friend request again. I deleted Gman because we kinda stopped playing lol. Im always up for some matches. Maybe i can convince you of my beliefs with my Juri.

Gen is just plain fun <3 haha


#14

Lol, I remember we had an argument about Juri way back. You insisted Guy beat her straight up 6 -4.


#15

You did? aren’t you Legend of K1 cause I could have sworn you were there still.

And you were always on netflix… you jerk.


#16

:confused:
[media=youtube]QTFPiNcH1ew"]YouTube - Kiryu Tsukimiya [Guy] vs jrojro5963 [Juri[/media]

LOL just a jab at the conversation. All in fun.

Here is another [media=youtube]teuw9fyYMbI[/media]


#17

^^ Like i was saying, If Guy gets in, its a pretty bad match for Juri.

2 things:

  1. This is Kiryu were watching.

  2. That Juri didnt look like he had any idea how to approach the match


#18

I was just messing around! I main Guy and use Juri as a secondary. I do believe that Juri is an excellent character she has so many tools to use and she gives people a hard time. Her fireball variety is awesome. I really like the fireball fake then release when they think your done. LOL I use her just to play around. In all honesty I picked her up because my daughter likes her. LOL Guy is still my dude he is just so much fun. The stuff Otaku is doing in AE makes him very promising.


#19

Juri was the only match I second guess . She is like the only character that can zone Guy , Its worse than Sim . But I think Guy does well versus weak reversals , so IDK , its tough to call .


#20

Quite a few characters can Zone Guy out,