Community Tierlist - Juri help requested!

juri

#1

Hello Juri mainers,

At Community Tierlist - overview you can see a brand new dynamic tierlist which is a combined effort of all people on the SRK character forums.

The goal of this web application is to get all people who main a certain character to give their opinion on that character matchups, and then to combine all that data in one overall list.
The idea worked pretty well when performed by the Rose forum (http://shoryuken.com/f277/rose-mis-fortunes-rose-match-up-poll-263465/), most users reached a consensus and Rose got a nice analysis that ranked her around 13th to 17th place, on par with the latest opinions on her by American and Japanese top players.

If all character forums take a small effort to go vote on their character we will get:
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[] a per character average of matchups
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] a community-generated tierlist
[] a cross-matchup view on each matchup (as for example Juri vs Ryu will be ranked both in Juri view as in Ryu view)
[
] and when enough data is provided: a statistical view on contested matchups, on agreed upon matchups and more!
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Because this list is open, and inputs are sensitive I took a few measure to get better results:
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[] You can only vote once per character
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] You need to provide the forumcode of you character to validate your vote (provided here), so that you can’t simply click around and vote on anything you want
[*] The extreme votes are removed statistically (10% lowest and 10% highest are discounted)
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Juri forumcode is: juri3273922
Please copy/paste this in the forumcode box

I will gradually go to each character forum to collect votes. After your vote you can copy/paste your input to this thread for further discussion.

Hopefully we get a good result! :slight_smile:

Web application: Community Tierlist - overview
Forumcode: juri3273922


#2

Heh, I’ll start

User Jamp voted on juri
viper: 5.5
guile: 5.0
bison: 4.0
chun: 5.0
deejay: 6.0
guy: 4.0
seth: 5.0
ibuki: 6.0
vega: 5.0
fuerte: 5.0
dudley: 5.0
sagat: 5.0
cammy: 4.0
makoto: 6.0
dhalsim: 5.0
rufus: 4.0
gouken: 6.0
adon: 5.5
ken: 5.0
hakan: 6.0
rose: 5.0
akuma: 4.0
balrog: 5.0
honda: 3.0
zangief: 6.0
dan: 6.0
sakura: 6.0
gen: 6.0
ryu: 6.0
hawk: 6.0
fei: 4.0
cody: 6.0
abel: 6.0
blanka: 5.0


#3

thx mate


#4

User snipernightowl voted on juri
viper: 5.5
guile: 4.5
bison: 3.0
chun: 5.0
deejay: 5.5
guy: 5.5
ibuki: 6.0
seth: 6.0
vega: 5.5
dudley: 5.5
sagat: 5.0
cammy: 5.0
makoto: 6.0
dhalsim: 5.0
rufus: 5.0
gouken: 5.5
adon: 5.5
ken: 5.0
rose: 4.5
hakan: 6.0
akuma: 4.0
balrog: 4.5
honda: 3.5
zangief: 6.0
dan: 5.5
sakura: 5.0
gen: 6.0
ryu: 5.0
hawk: 6.0
cody: 5.5
fei: 4.0
abel: 5.0
blanka: 5.0


#5

User Dr. Grammar voted on juri
viper: 6.0
guile: 5.0
bison: 4.0
chun: 4.5
guy: 5.0
ibuki: 5.5
vega: 5.0
dudley: 5.0
sagat: 5.0
cammy: 5.0
dhalsim: 5.5
rufus: 6.0
gouken: 5.5
adon: 5.0
ken: 5.0
rose: 5.0
akuma: 5.0
balrog: 6.0
honda: 4.5
dan: 6.0
sakura: 5.5
ryu: 5.0
fei: 3.5
cody: 5.0
abel: 5.0
blanka: 5.0


#6

User Kail voted on juri
viper: 5.0
guile: 5.0
bison: 4.0
chun: 5.0
deejay: 5.0
guy: 5.0
seth: 6.0
ibuki: 5.0
vega: 6.0
fuerte: 5.0
dudley: 4.5
sagat: 6.0
cammy: 4.0
makoto: 6.0
dhalsim: 5.0
rufus: 6.0
gouken: 5.5
adon: 4.5
ken: 5.0
hakan: 6.0
rose: 5.0
akuma: 3.5
balrog: 4.0
honda: 4.5
zangief: 5.0
dan: 5.5
sakura: 4.5
gen: 6.0
ryu: 6.0
hawk: 5.0
fei: 4.5
cody: 6.0
abel: 4.5
blanka: 5.0


#7

User Legend Of K1 voted on juri
viper: 6.0
guile: 4.5
bison: 4.5
chun: 4.5
deejay: 5.5
guy: 6.0
seth: 5.5
ibuki: 5.5
vega: 6.0
fuerte: 5.0
dudley: 5.5
sagat: 5.0
cammy: 5.0
makoto: 6.0
dhalsim: 6.0
rufus: 5.0
gouken: 6.0
adon: 5.0
ken: 4.5
hakan: 6.5
rose: 5.0
akuma: 4.5
balrog: 5.5
honda: 4.0
zangief: 6.0
dan: 6.0
sakura: 5.0
gen: 5.5
ryu: 6.0
hawk: 5.0
fei: 4.0
cody: 5.0
abel: 5.0
blanka: 5.5


#8

Didn’t you say Juri vs. Guy was even? Did you change your mind?


#9

Or what changed his mind…


#10

I may have said its even, but then I got to thinking that as soon as the match starts, due to the spacing alone at which the characters start, Juri is naturally at an advantage. The match only becomes in Guy’s favor (and it certainly does shift pretty convincingly in his favor) once he gets Juri on wakeup. Since the match is started with about 1/2 screen space between the two characters, the match is in Juri’s favor as soon as it starts. Honestly this match has too many situational variables to give it a single ratio, but i took the average and gave it 6/4 Juri.

Honestly this is exactly how I view the Guy / Juri matchup:

  • 1/2 screen or greater distance between Juri and Guy: 6/4 Juri’s favor

  • Juri on wakeup: 6/4 - 6.5/3.5 Guy’s favor (depending on how well each of the players knows the matchup, either way its in Guys favor for sure. This is stressed even moreso in AE with Guys cr.lk frame change)

  • Guy on wakeup: 6.5/3.5 Juri’s favor. She can just ass rape all of his options for days.

The whole match relies soooo heavily on position in relation to each other its not even funny.

^^ Just my two cents

  • K1

#11

I can’t believe I haven’t voted on this yet.

User Vulcan Hades voted on juri
viper: 6.0
guile: 5.0
bison: 4.0
chun: 5.0
deejay: 4.0
guy: 6.0
seth: 5.5
ibuki: 5.0
vega: 5.0
fuerte: 5.0
dudley: 5.0
sagat: 5.5
cammy: 4.5
makoto: 5.0
dhalsim: 5.0
rufus: 6.0
gouken: 6.0
adon: 5.5
ken: 4.0
hakan: 5.5
rose: 5.0
akuma: 5.0
balrog: 4.5
honda: 4.5
zangief: 6.0
dan: 5.5
sakura: 5.0
gen: 5.5
ryu: 5.0
hawk: 6.0
fei: 4.0
cody: 5.0
abel: 5.0
blanka: 5.0

I gotta say. I was very tempted to give Juri a 7-3 advantage over Rufus and Gouken. :slight_smile: She can walk all over them. Guy, Viper, Hawk and Gief are 6-4 imo.

4-6 matchups: bison, dee jay, ken and fei. Maybe chun li and rose just because of their superior footsies.

The rest is 5-5. Guile, Akuma, Dhalsim, Abel, Blanka, Cody, Makoto and Sakura can go either way.


#12

I just noticed this, interesting.

votes

[details=Spoiler]User deice- voted on juri
viper: 5.0
guile: 5.5
bison: 4.0
chun: 5.0
deejay: 5.5
guy: 6.0
ibuki: 5.0
seth: 5.0
vega: 5.0
fuerte: 5.0
dudley: 5.0
sagat: 5.5
cammy: 4.5
makoto: 6.0
dhalsim: 4.0
rufus: 4.5
gouken: 6.0
adon: 5.0
ken: 5.0
rose: 5.0
hakan: 6.5
akuma: 5.0
balrog: 5.0
honda: 4.0
zangief: 5.0
dan: 7.0
sakura: 5.0
gen: 6.0
ryu: 5.0
hawk: 5.0
cody: 5.0
fei: 4.0
abel: 5.0
blanka: 5.5
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#13

User Ramma voted on juri

viper: 5.5
guile: 5.0
bison: 4.0
chun: 5.0
deejay: 5.0
guy: 5.0
seth: 6.0
ibuki: 5.0
vega: 6.0
fuerte: 5.0
dudley: 5.0
sagat: 6.0
cammy: 4.0
makoto: 6.0
dhalsim: 5.0
rufus: 6.0
gouken: 5.5
adon: 5.0
ken: 5.0
hakan: 6.0
rose: 5.0
akuma: 4.5
balrog: 5.0
honda: 4.5
zangief: 6.0
dan: 5.5
sakura: 4.5
gen: 6.0
ryu: 6.0
hawk: 6.0
fei: 4.5
cody: 6.0
abel: 4.5
blanka: 4.5


#14

User Lion_Jak voted on juri
viper: 5.5
guile: 5.0
bison: 4.5
chun: 4.5
deejay: 5.0
guy: 5.5
ibuki: 5.5
seth: 4.5
vega: 5.0
fuerte: 4.0
dudley: 5.5
sagat: 5.0
cammy: 4.5
makoto: 6.0
dhalsim: 5.5
rufus: 5.5
gouken: 5.0
adon: 5.5
ken: 5.0
rose: 5.0
hakan: 6.0
akuma: 4.0
balrog: 5.0
honda: 4.0
zangief: 6.0
dan: 5.5
sakura: 5.5
gen: 5.5
ryu: 5.0
hawk: 6.0
cody: 5.5
fei: 3.5
abel: 5.0
blanka: 5.0

I looked at the analysis and saw that we are one of the least active communities so I had to give my opinion on this. I’ve never really checked any other character forum besides the characters I use. The only one I like compared to juri forum is ibuki but I’m not active yet on that one.


#15

If Possible, I’d like to change my vote on Dhalism from 5.0 to 5.5…maybe even 6.0 but definitely 5.5

I’ve been playing a lot of the best Dhalisms I can find on the PSN and honestly, Juri has so many options to blow threw Dhalism’s defense. And getting him to the corner is easy as pie because Dhalism almost always moves backwards to keep his space. His teleport is punishable, his ultra and super can be pinwheeled out of, his pokes can be beaten across the screen with a fireball store which leads to a knock down.

I mean, maybe I’ve been having a lucky week, but I’m taking out guys who are by all means better than me as a player, but I continue to prevail taking most of the matches.

Maybe it is due to the AE changes, but this match seems very straight forward and almost easy.


#16

Awwww I wanna vote but I’m too scrubby. :C


#17

AE tiers are going to be completely different. It doesn’t make sense to use AE knowledge/experience for this chart.