Dante: The Demon Hunter Thread


Nice! I’m going to have to try this when I get home. 8 reps scuzzy? Nice! Was it because you dropped it or did it eventually cap off? I’ll see if I can get it recorded. I’ll definitely add this info to the post later. I want to see how many reps we can do. :smiley: I eventually want to get most of the stuff in the thread compiled into one video.

Edit: scuzzy posted his reply of 15 reps before i clicked post.


Probably old news by now, but I realized after messing around for gimmicky set-ups into rear f.square -> level 2, the front hitbox of the scythe also puts the target in the same stagger. So the front hitbox of f.square -> level 2 works and if you know your f. square will land it’s a free level 2.

I feel like scuzzy’s level 1 combo is pretty essential to Dante’s game. I haven’t quite gottten it down consistently, but I think it’s definitely feasible with practice to become consistent. It’ll put Dante up there with Evil Cole and Raiden who all have guaranteed level 1. Completely changes his 1v1 game - good stuff scuzzy!

Also, what grab do you usually opt for? I haven’t really found reason to use any of his side grabs. His downgrab sets up a nice tech chase situation, and if I’m in a corner his up grab combos nicely into up circle -> j.square -> guateber


I usually go for Payoff (Up Grab) into u.Square. I added a combo for it up there however I think the AP gain might be slightly off I have to double check later. How much AP does yours do? If you wanna throw out the notation/meter gain i can throw it up in the combo section.


It’s the upthrow combo from Persona Z’s combo video in the Combo Video post, I don’t want to take credit for it. I can post the annotation for it once I get a chance to watch it again, though credit should go to him.


This is definitely a great find! It’s a lot easier to do than I originally thought and is a very viable and consistent way to land his lvl 1 super.


So Seoul since you already have done the mid-combo parries, do you know if you parry in the air if you can combo after or does it only knock them away?

Unfortunately lots more characters can combo into level 1 so while it is nice to do so it isn’t groundbreaking (Spike and Sweet Tooth can also). I could not get it to work myself, I’d dash away and my down-circle would be fired in the opposite direction. Help a brother out?

Lastly about throws, the amount of knockback and wallbounce on his sidethrow should make it usable only as a 2v2 tool for co-ordinated players, because it looks like many players can get a free super from it.

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Cancelling back circle with square is a lot easier and keeps your char facing the right direction.


You can also cancel with neutral circle. Dante has a pseudo wave dash if you choose to empty cancel later in his command dash. This leads into normals, grabs, parry, blocking, rolling, and of course, supers.


Just had my lunch break and tested out the empty cancel. Oh man I’m loving it. I was tired last night and misinterpreted this. I actually combo’d into Level 1 from an Aerial Arbiter on accident.

Looks like PersonaZ already made a video showing if off. I asked him permission to post but no response yet. I will post an example later tonight when I get a chance that will be more simple. I was hoping/kinda thinking Dante would have to shorten his recovery like this and I’m glad you found it scuzzy.

Edit: Shords and scuzzy i’ll have to try both using square and neutral circle. Currently i don’t have a problem hitting the empty cancel but if I can make it even more consistent why not.


Ah I see. Still tricky to me but with practice comes success.

Probably known to everyone but not posted so here goes:
Level 2 is AMAZING for punishing rolls, on reaction, from pretty considerable distances. Why work it into a combo when they can offer themselves up on a silver platter?
Using Dojo as a measurement, any forward dash towards Dante that does not go past him can be punished from a max distance of it starting around the far edge of the mat with Dante in the corner, factoring in reactions. As for backward dash, it hits very safely if the roll starts from around the center of the first square of mat if Dante is in corner, and can go further with greater reaction/reading.

Edit: Just found out rolls are not universal. The above measurements were done with Sackboy, but if the roller is say, Fat Princess, it looks like you can punish a backdash very comfortably from about the beginning of the last square on the mat.


Sorry didn’t see this! Well I’m not sure what happens when you Parry an aerial opponent but if you Parry a grounded opponent attacking you (you are close to ground), you launch them into the air. This allows you to follow up with jumping square attacks. I’ll have to try out Parry vs aerial opponents and the side throws with my buddies whenever they decide to start playing more…

I just tried scuzzy’s method of hitting circle twice and its definitely easier. Are you still having problems Samuel?


I also think you can invite players into practice mode for testing things like that, so if you have time tonight I can be your training dummy for anything you want to test.


I might see if any popular supers can combo off sidethrow wallbounce in a bit.

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Man, I cannot win anything with Dante, even against relatively lame players, in ffa. I have my BnB down and decent blocks and such, but I am definitely seeing what Kamui is saying: I am having a really hard time building meter in wacky multiplayer matches. What do you all do? I bet you dash and cancel around like superstars never getting touched and doing all kindsa stuff.
Got slightly better when I added gunning from a distance then canceling into parry/dash when things get hairy, but is too slow.

Also for all these empty cancels and such, they are really fun but how do you go about using them in a match? Do you try for them raw on a pre-occupied opponent, have an oki setup with them (seem too slow to), what? I fear learning too much tech but having it all lost on what I do with it.

Can we talk Devil Trigger? Any tips for moving around fastest in it and picking up the kills? With my current gain I can get it at the end of a timed battle if I used no other super, so I really need to maximize my kills with it.




In 1v1? Forget DT unless you get an early lead and are trying to solidify it.

In FFA or 2v2, you should be using Ebony and Ivory rushdown and airdash attacks to close gaps quickly between you and enemies. Also be mindful of the stage you are in when using it. Too large, and it may not be worth the cost.

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FFA Matches: I’m totally feeling you on that. I am having a hard time winning consistently here. Like you, I have my BnBs down and average blocking/dodging. Your comment about dash cancelling like superstars really made me laugh. I wish it were that easy but I think once we all get used to his movement things might get only a little better. I tried to adjust my gameplay in FFA by adding Parrying after we talked more however it didn’t go so well. There are attacks that you can Parry but you will whiff the opponent leaving you open to attacks. That happened to me quite a lot last night. I’m still trying to figure out my strategy for FFA really… I always end up being the guy trying to prevent someone’s Level 3 while the other opponents are oblivious. I end up getting whacked by them during a combo and the guy with Level 3 destroys us. Things get so whacky in FFA matches and when you have to chase opponents down it becomes an uphill battle for Dante.

Empty Cancels in match: Well the tech is still new so I’m personally working ways to add it to my game. I’ve only used it so far to setup Level 1 Supers in a few matches. Each time I’ve done it it, I was away from the other two opponents (FFA). I have not yet caught multiple opponents with the stagger and empty cancelled (I cant wait!) At times I found myself trying too hard to get that Square x3 stagger when I had a Level 1 Super. I think I have to be more patient, not force the situation, and wait for the opportunity to present itself.

Devil Trigger: I personally don’t even go for Devil Trigger too much as I try to get my kills with Level 1. When I do i try to wait for opponents to be above me or below me (if I am on a platform). As soon as I activate Devil Trigger I will hit u.Triangle or d.jump and plink d.Triangle for the quick kill and cancel into Angel Boost towards the direction of any living characters. After that it can get a bit hard with multiple people running in different directions. At that point I just hope for them to spawn near you. Ebony and Ivory seem to be the most efficient in Devil Trigger considering you can cancel whiffed hits unlike Square.


Thanks everyone, definitely helped.

In terms of FFA it is true we are fighting a battle where everything is stacked against us: we have to work harder for meter, our l1 and 2s are junk compared to the best, and our best stages for building meter (the bigger it is the easier to isolate and punish) are the ones Devil Trigger is least effective. I also think, and I elaborate below, that Dante is a very “not strong in killing, but strong in not being killed” character, which is great in theory evading all those lv1 and 2s, but he can only do so much against 3s like Sackboy and Cooper.

In terms of super management you are right, Lv1 is crappy but doing it often is our best bet for winning. The issue is in finding the perfect time in which you get 2-3 kills without getting stuffed (FFA in a nutshell >> ). I still think Dante’s canceling and mobility has great potential here, however, in that where characters normally see “lol a combo sneak and super them” you can cancel/dash behind them and punish their hubris. In fact I think mobility >super punish might be more effective than canceling>super combo in ffas (we get interrupted in our normal combos why should we feel safe in the harder ones?). As an optimist tactics like these may be why his level 1 is so poor in the first place. Need to be better before I can see if theory becomes practice though.

As for Parry I am the opposite: been using it more in FFA but to great success. I am very stingy with it though, busting it out midcombo only when I know there is an incoming square behind me or a super telegraphed move like Nariko/Princess dive bomb. In other instances even though I think Parry might be possible I find it better to air dash the F out of there and stay safe, and if it was a projectile that would hit the retreating dash, I ^triangle above it then dash at them in an attempt to punish with >square and into level 2 or strong combo, ideally (it happened once…).

I am gonna try Dante for another day or two and if still no success I think I will relegate him to a 1v1 main and learn someone more abusable in ffa.


I agree with all the points Samuel brought up. Dante gets stuffed easily in FFA. His cancels are only effective you land a clean hit on opponents which can be fairly difficult. Sackboy and just about any projectile character except Radec come to mind. If you don’t hit anything = no meter = no kills.

Empty cancels have proven to be useful if you’re mid combo. Instead of commiting to a full back dash, you can back dash cancel into options suited to your needs. Maybe even a preemptive super to catch the incoming opponent off guard.

You need to make a lot of good reads against a randomly spamming crowd. It can get frustrating when you get beat down by a square spamming Kratos.


Kratos, Sackboy, and Radec… These three might be the most frustrating characters to play against w/ Dante in FFA. Kratos’s reach, Sackboys fan and electrified Wii fit board, and Radec spamming f.Triangle across the screen can build frustration… I tried to Parry against Kratos’s long reaching chain (not sure which input) and got stuck whiffing quite often.

I guess we should work on developing tech for certain match ups if we really want to level Dante up and make him a serious contender in FFA. Thing is its so hard with the mayhem in FFA. Wish I had more time to play and work on this stuff, but alas responsibilities.

Good luck Samuel! Let us know how it goes. One question, has anyone been using Dante in 2v2 games? Its hard to find a partner that you can consistently play with and have good synergy with but I’m really loving 2v2.


I think Dante works well in 2v2 with a solid partner. It increases the chances of 1v1 where he shines, lv1 and 2 are much easier to connect with someone else helping, and his ability not to die is more useful than in ffa.

I want 2v2 to be my main mode, so add me if people want to experiment.

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