Fei Long USF4 Combo Thread

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#1

Time for a new Combo thread since significant changes have been made to Fei Long.
c.LK being +4 on hit, cls.HP activating from farer away and the improved MK Chicken Wing and Ultra juggles allow for some new and really viable (damaging) options.
Sadly we’ve lost our old BnB c.LK > c.LK > s.LP , c.LP xx Rekkas due to c.LK not being chainable into itself anymore.
Still Fei feels stronger than in AE '12.

Legend:
> = chain cancel (cancel the recovery frames of your normal into another normal)
xx = special/super cancel (cancel the active frames of your normal into special or super)
, = link
c. = crouching
s. = standing
cls. = close standing
fj. = forward jumping
F+ = hold stick/dpad towards the opponent
LP/MP/HP = jab/strong/fierce
LK/MK/HK = short/forward/roundhouse
FK = Flame Kick aka Shienkyaku
CW = Chicken Wing aka Flying Kick aka Rekkukyaku
FADC = Focus Attack (Forward) Dash Cancel
FABDC = Focus Attack Backdash Cancel
RFA = Red Focus Attack
Super = Rekkashinken
Ultra = Ultra I aka Rekkashingeki (with full revenge bar and no Ultra Combo Double option)
Balrog = Boxer
Vega = Claw
Bison = Dictator
Bold normal = Combo works on this character
Bold italics = Combo doesn’t work on this character
^note that “standing” or “crouching” before a list of characters applies to all of them

Bread 'n Butter hit confirms:

c.LK > c.LP > c.LK , c.LP xx HP Rekkas    160dmg/250stun (with EX Rekkas: 170dmg, same stun)    2f-link
c.LP > c.LK , c.LP xx HP Rekkas    164dmg/230stun (EX: 176dmg)    2f-link
^both combos above whiff against Juri, Poison and standing Abel, Cammy, Decapre, Rufus, Sagat and crouching Rose.

Universal BnB:
c.LK , c.MP , c.LP xx HP Rekkas    209dmg/280stun (EX: 221dmg)    1f-link, 3f-link

The next combo doesn’t work against Balrog, Blanka, Guile, Hakan, Hugo, Rolento, Rufus, T.Hawk and Zangief (you get far s.HP instead of cls.HP), but works fine on everyone else:
c.LK , c.LK , cls.HP xx HP Rekkas    228dmg/350stun (EX: 240dmg)    two 1f-links!

The following c.LK > s.LP combos work on everyone standing plus these crouching characters (whiff against the rest when they’re crouching):
Abel, Balrog, Bison, Dee Jay, Dudley, Fei, Fuerte, Gen, Gouken, Guile, Guy, Hakan, Hugo, Makoto, Poison, Rolento, Sagat, Seth, T.Hawk, Vega and Zangief
Special case Sakura: works on her crouching if she isn’t blocking. But if she blocks the first s.LP whiffs.
c.LK > s.LP , c.LP xx HP Rekkas    174dmg/230stun (EX: 186dmg)    3f-link
c.LK > s.LP , s.LP xx HP Rekkas    182dmg/230stun (EX: 194dmg)    3f-link
c.LK > s.LP > s.LP , c.LP xx HP Rekkas    178dmg/250stun (EX: 188dmg)    3f-link

The next combo which is the most similar to our old BnB works against the same crouching characters as above except Poison. It also whiffs against Poison standing and standing Abel, Cammy, Decapre, E.Ryu, Juri, Ken, Ryu and Sagat:
c.LK > c.LP > s.LP , c.LP xx HP Rekkas    168dmg/250stun (EX: 178dmg)    3f-link

The following combo works against everyone standing except Blanka, Cammy, Decapre and Rose.
Additionally it works against crouching Fuerte, Hakan, Hugo and Seth:
c.LK > s.LP > s.LP , s.LP xx HP Rekkas    185dmg/250stun (EX: 195dmg)    3f-link

These new most damaging BnBs don’t work against standing Abel*, Balrog*, Blanka, Guile*, Hakan, Hugo, Rolento*, Rufus*, T.Hawk and Zangief. (*works only with fj.MP)
But out of these if you start from deep fj.MP they work against standing Abel, Balrog, Guile, Rolento and Rufus. So they only whiff against Blanka, Hakan, Hugo, T.Hawk and Zangief.
They work against everyone else standing plus crouching Abel, Bison, Dee Jay, Dudley, Fei, Fuerte, Guy, Gouken, Makoto, Poison, Sakura (unless she’s blocking), Seth and Vega:
c.LK > s.LP , cls.HP xx HP Rekkas    238dmg/350stun (EX: 250dmg)    2f-link
c.LK > s.LP , cls.HP xx MK FK FADC MK CW    280dmg/490stun    2f-link

Some universal combos from c.MP and cls.MP:
c.MP , c.LP xx HP Rekkas    211dmg/255stun (EX: 225dmg)    3f-link
COUNTERHIT c.MP , LP Rekka > HP Rekka > HP Rekka    218dmg/250stun    ~2f-link
cls.MP , c.LP xx HP Rekkas    216dmg/255stun (EX: 230dmg/255stun)    5f-link
cls.MP , c.HK    170dmg/250stun    2f-link

Hit confirms into Ultra:

c.LK , cls.HP xx MK FK FADC Ultra    387dmg/410stun    1f-link
c.LK , cls.HP xx MK FK FADC MK CW , Ultra    436dmg/515stun    1f-link
c.LK , cls.HP RFA , dash , Ultra    435dmg/320stun    1f-link

The next combos don’t work against Balrog, Blanka, Guile, Hakan, Hugo, Rolento, Rufus, T.Hawk and Zangief (you get far s.HP instead of cls.HP), but they work on everyone else:
c.LK , c.LK , cls.HP xx MK FK FADC Ultra    347dmg/400stun    two 1f-links
c.LK , c.LK , cls.HP xx MK FK FADC MK CW , Ultra    384dmg/490stun    two 1f-links
c.LK , c.LK , cls.HP RFA , dash , Ultra    372dmg/320stun    two 1f-links

The following combos don’t work against standing Abel*, Balrog*, Blanka, Guile*, Hakan, Hugo, Rolento*, Rufus*, T.Hawk and Zangief. (*works only with fj.MP)
But out of these if you start from deep fj.MP they work against standing Abel, Balrog, Guile, Rolento and Rufus. So they only whiff against Blanka, Hakan, Hugo, T.Hawk and Zangief.
They work against everyone else standing plus crouching Abel, Bison, Dee Jay, Dudley, Fei, Fuerte, Guy, Gouken, Makoto, Poison, Sakura (unless she’s blocking), Seth and Vega:
c.LK > s.LP , cls.HP xx MK FK FADC Ultra    357dmg/400stun    2f-link
c.LK > s.LP , cls.HP xx MK FK FADC MK CW , Ultra    394dmg/490stun    2f-link
c.LK > s.LP , cls.HP RFA , dash , Ultra    382dmg/320stun    2f-link

Hit confirms into Super:

c.LK > s.LP , c.MP , c.MP xx Super    370dmg/250stun    two 2f-links
c.LK > s.LP , c.MP xx Super    361dmg/180stun    2f-link
c.LK > c.LP > s.LP , c.MP xx Super    332dmg/210stun    2f-link
c.LK > s.LP > s.LP , c.MP xx Super    342dmg/210stun    2f-link
c.LK , c.MP , c.MP xx Super    396dmg/230stun    1f-link, 2f-link
c.LK , c.MP xx Super    381dmg/150stun    1f-link
c.LK > s.LP , c.MP , c.MK xx Super    380dmg/250stun    2f-link, 1f-link
c.LK > s.LP , c.MK xx Super    373dmg/180stun    1f-link
c.LK > c.LP > s.LP , c.MK xx Super    342dmg/210stun    1f-link
c.LK > s.LP > s.LP , c.MK xx Super    352dmg/210stun    1f-link
c.LK , c.MP , c.MK xx Super    408dmg/230stun    two 1f-links
c.MP , c.MP xx Super    426dmg/200stun    2f-link
cls.MP , Super    440dmg/100stun    3f-link
cls.MP , c.MP xx Super    431dmg/200stun    4f-link
cls.MP , c.MK xx Super    446dmg/200stun    3f-link
^For the “c.LK > s.LP”- and “c.LK > c.LP > s.LP”-combos the same character specific rules apply as in the BnB section above.

(for Tenshin > Super combos see Tenshin-part below)

Flamekick FADCs:

mid-screen:
MK FK FADC MK CW    230dmg/350stun    (against Chun Li and Poison do the MK CW as late as possible to get three hits)
MK FK FADC Ultra    348dmg/200stun
MK FK FADC MK CW , Ultra    430dmg/350stun

corner:
MK FK FADC EX FK    210dmg/300stun
MK FK FABDC Ultra    348dmg/200stun    seems to work on everyone (against some characters you have to wait a few frames)

MK FK FABDC MK CW    230dmg/350stun
^whiffs against Cody, Elena, Makoto, Hugo and Sakura, only 2 hits against Balrog and Poison (180dmg/300stun)

MK FK FABDC MK CW , Ultra    430dmg/350stun
^doesn’t work against Balrog, Cody, Elena, Guy, Ibuki, Makoto, Hugo, Poison, Rufus and Sakura; very hard to link the Ultra against Vega; against Gouken the Ultra only hits twice (314dmg => better do MK FK FABDC Ultra for 348dmg)

MK FK FABDC LK CW    220dmg/350stun
^use this against Cody, Makoto and Hugo instead of the MK CW-combo; only 2 hits against Balrog, Elena, Poison and Sakura (180 dmg/300stun)

MK FK FABDC LK CW , Ultra    420dmg/350stun
^use this against Cody, Makoto and Rufus instead of the MK CW-combo; also works on Hugo, but linking the Ultra is very difficult

Punish combos:

3 frame punishes:
c.LP xx HP Rekkas    170dmg/175stun (EX: 186dmg)
s.LP xx HP Rekkas    180dmg/175stun (EX: 196dmg)
c.LP xx Super    390dmg/50stun

4 frame punishes:
cls.HP xx HP Rekkas    250dmg/325stun (EX: 266dmg)
cls.HP xx HK FK    250dmg/400stun
cls.HP xx EX FK    290dmg/400stun
cls.HP xx MK FK FADC MK CW    308dmg/520stun
cls.HP xx MK FK FADC Ultra    420dmg/400stun
cls.HP xx MK FK FADC MK CW , Ultra    479dmg/520stun
cls.HP RFA , dash , Ultra    469dmg/280stun

5 frame punishes:
c.MK xx Super    450dmg/100stun
MK FK FADCs (see above)

6 frame super punish:
cls.HK xx Super    490dmg/200stun

HK Chicken Wing combos:

HK CW , cls.HP xx HP Rekkas    326dmg/455stun (EX: 340dmg)    1f-link
HK CW , s.LP xx HP Rekkas    256dmg/455stun (EX: 270dmg)    2f-link
HK CW , c.LP xx HP Rekkas    246dmg/455stun (EX: 260dmg)    2f-link
HK CW , cls.HP xx MK FK FADC MK CW    373dmg/615stun    1f-link
HK CW , cls.HP xx MK FK FADC Ultra    467dmg/510stun    1f-link
HK CW , cls.HP xx MK FK FADC MK CW , Ultra    516dmg/615stun    1f-link
HK CW , cls.HP RFA , dash , Ultra    515dmg/420stun    1f-link

Tenshin combos:

(EX or normal) Tenshin , cls.HP xx EX FK    253dmg/360stun    4f-link
Tenshin , cls.HP xx HP Rekkas    227dmg/305stun (EX: 241dmg)    4f-link
Tenshin , Super    371dmg/0stun    3f-link
Tenshin , c.MP xx Super    362dmg/100stun    4f-link
Tenshin , c.MK xx Super    377dmg/100stun    3f-link
Tenshin , cls.HK xx Super    417dmg/200stun    2f-link
Tenshin , cls.HP xx MK FK FADC MK CW    274dmg/465stun    4f-link
Tenshin , cls.HP xx MK FK FADC Ultra    368dmg/360stun    4f-link
Tenshin , cls.HP xx MK FK FADC MK CW , Ultra    417dmg/465stun    4f-link
Tenshin , cls.HP RFA , dash , Ultra    416dmg/270stun    4f-link
Tenshin , cls.HK RFA , dash , Ultra    436dmg/270stun    2f-link

Engekishu (F+HK) combos:

F+HK , c.LP xx HP Rekkas    276dmg/355stun (EX: 290dmg)    1f-link
F+HK , s.LP xx HP Rekkas    286dmg/355stun (EX: 300dmg)    1f-link
F+HK xx Super    500dmg/200stun

Character specific combos:

Works on Hugo and Rufus:
Focus (lvl1/lvl2) crumple (dash cancel) , HK CW , cls.HP xx HP Rekkas    320dmg/485stun
Focus (lvl1/lvl2) crumple (dash cancel) , HK CW , cls.HP xx MK FK FADC MK CW , Ultra    443dmg/605stun

BnB hitconfirm against Hugo and T.Hawk, standing Sagat, Zangief, Rufus and crouching Abel & Hakan:
c.LK > s.LP , c.MP , c.LP xx HP Rekkas    206dmg/290stun (EX: 216dmg)    2f-link, 3f-link
(also works against other standing characters, but against them c.LK > s.LP , cls.HP xx HP Rekkas works and is more damaging)

Variation of the above combo for standing Abel:
c.LK > s.LP , c.MP , s.LP xx HP Rekkas    216dmg/290stun (EX: 226dmg)    2f-link, 3f-link


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#2

Special case crouching E.Honda:

c.LP xx HP Rekka and c.LP xx MP Rekka whiff when done raw.
c.LP xx HP Rekka also whiffs in combos.

So in combos do c.LP xx MP Rekka > HP Rekka > HP Rekka
and as a raw punish do c.LP xx LP Rekka > HP Rekka > HP Rekka.


#3

Chart showing on which characters which BnB always works (crouching+standing):

Against the characters on which c.LK > s.LP , cls.HP xx HP Rekkas works the second combo c.LK > s.LP > s.LP , c.LP xx HP Rekkas also works. Except for Cody (but c.LK > s.LP , c.LP xx HP Rekkas works).
The BnB c.LK , c.MP , c.LP xx HP Rekkas always works on everyone - but it’s the only reliable option against Juri, Rose, Cammy, Decapre and Rufus.

Chart showing the suggested FK FABDC-corner combo to use against:

While LK CW , Ultra works on Hugo and MK CW , Ultra works on Vega the timing is too strict to be practical.


#4

Reserved


#5

^ On Honda I always get three hits. Against Ibuki, too - unless I wait too long to do the Ultra, then the 3rd hit misses.

Against Makoto you have to wait a few frames before doing the Ultra to get three hits. But on her LK CW juggle , Ultra works and is easy to do.

Same goes for Ryu and Ken as well as some other characters where MK CW , Ultra works fine. You’ll dash under with the last strike so it whiffs. But if you wait a few frames this also works.


#6

Updated first post with character specific information. I assume the characters that the “c.LK > s.LP , cls.HP”-combos don’t work on probably have the same problem with the “c.LK , c.LK , cls.HP”-combos. Can someone verify?

edit: Added chart showing the best FK FABDC-combo to use in the corner.


#7

Good stuff. I’ll edit my post into something else since your chart covers everything I wanted to cover!


#8

Since only by the text it was difficult to see which BnB generally works on which character I’ve now also added a chart that shows which BnB always works regardless if they’re standing or crouching.

The BnB c.LK , c.MP , c.LP xx HP Rekkas always works on everyone, but it’s the only option for: Cammy, Decapre, Juri, Rose and Rufus.

EDIT: Updated the BnB-chart - c.LK > s.LP , cls.HP xx HP Rekkas works on Cody, too.


#9

Not a combo but Hugo get’s hit with the HK CW for 3 hits on a crumple like Rufus so that should be the go to punish. Not sure where else to put these little bits of info as they come through.


#10

Thanks - added section “Character specific combos” with 2 combos for Hugo and Rufus that start with focus crumple , HK CW.


#11

Does Cr.LK > Cr.LK > St.HP > Rekka work on all characters even from crouching?


#12

It’ll probably work against everyone except the characters where c.LK > s.LP , cls.HP doesn’t work even if they’re standing (the cls.HP turns into far s.HP). Will check later.

edit: Tested. As expected it doesn’t work against Balrog, Blanka, Guile, Hakan, Hugo, Rolento, Rufus, T.Hawk and Zangief.

But it works fine against standing and crouching Decapre and thus everyone else.

Updated first post with this info.


#13

Hi all, haven’t kept up with all the changes, is there a reason to do MK CW now instead of HK to juggle?


#14

Better hitbox, gets 3 hits on all characters (mid screen). And 10 more damage.


#15

Thanks, time to train.


#16

Anybody else having trouble getting cr lk > st lp, cl hp to work on standing abel outside of the corner?


#17

Not sure but that would make sense because I’m sure you could only confirm from two lights on Abel not three. The third would always whiff. Abel has a weird box that is really good for somethings and not so much for others.


#18

2 days ago I was fighting a couple of matches against two Abels and did (ambiguous) j.MP , c.LK > s.LP , cl.HP xx HP Rekkas all the time on their wakeup. Easy 284 damage. They weren’t strong though or else they probably wouldn’t have let me do this.

But I’ve just tested only c.LK > s.LP , cl.HP in training mode and you’re right - it fails most of the time (you get far s.HP). Sometimes it does work. Maybe Abel’s idle animation plays a role whether it works or not.

So from a deep jumpin it works reliably but on its own it doesn’t.

EDIT: Found out that out of the characters the combo fails on (Abel, Balrog, Blanka, Guile, Hakan, Hugo, Rolento, Rufus, T.Hawk and Zangief) it does work from deep j.MP on the following (when standing):
Abel, Balrog, Guile, Rolento and Rufus

With j.MP it only whiffs against Blanka, Hakan, Hugo, T.Hawk and Zangief.

So with j.MP this should be your goto combo against everyone standing except the four pure grapplers and Blanka.

Updated first post with this info (will update the combo chart later).


#19

This could be an effective way of landing U1.

j.MP, cr.LK, st.LP, st.HP xx HP Rekkas - 278 DMG
EX Rekkas - 293 DMG
EX RFA -> U1 - 392 DMG

100 more damage for 2 more meters. Worth it or waste of meter, what do you think?

Also, is it possible to land st.HP xx DP? I was testing but it always seems to whiff, gotta try with different chars when I get some more time.


#20

Just tested on Ryu and cls.HP xx DP works fine in the combo.
So for just 2 bars you can do j.MP , c.LK > s.LP , cls.HP xx MK FK FADC MK CW , Ultra for 407dmg and 525stun.

But of course your suggestion works as well. Didn’t list it because it does less damage for 1 bar more.
Execution is a lot easier with the RFA and maybe cls.HP xx DP does whiff on some characters after all whereas RFA will definitely work on everyone.

And if you miss the 2f-link then the combo with RFA will also be safer. I noticed the Flamekick whiffs if you miss the link before cls.HP xx DP.

EDIT: The combo is already listed under “Hitconfirms into Ultra”:
c.LK > s.LP , cls.HP RFA , dash , Ultra 382dmg/320stun 2f-link

With j.MP that makes 392dmg/380stun but it’s the same combo.