Help, advice

adon

#1

Hello, I have used Adon since day 1, only use him and no other character. I have recently started uploading my replays (one or two against pros also) in the hope of getting feedback on what I need to do to improve. I don’t use a stick or analogue I’m a d-pad user.So I was hoping if you guys/girls had a bit of spare time and you didn’t mind you would check out a few of my replays and maybe give me some advice on what I should be doing/what I need to stop doing/things I should learn etc. Thankyou in advance.
youtube.com/tigermoggy


#2

crickets


#3

I have added your channel to my favs but i havent had time to watch, though id assume you are better than me anyway haha. ill take a look as soon as i have time.


#4

Thankyou, thats very kind, feel free to point out anything you feel I need to improve/learn/stop doing


#5

Okay here are my views, but remember my Adon is mediocre at best… ask some of the people on here who have played me haha:

  • you dropped some combos, or at least it seems that way at times
  • ex-jk’s in corner. You are better off waiting a little bit longer and trying to get both hits from the rj. Better yet perhaps try and guage the distance better, as a few times you could have gotten out a mk.rj for that tiny bit more damage.
    -ex-jk in middle of screen, I believe you get more damage from a st.hk than a lk.rj. However if you get a double hit always do the lk.rj (saw you do this a few times, i figure you just do the lk.rj as its almost always gonna hit after that.)
  • you seemed to use throw alot as a punish, were you wanting to do this for the un-tech kd?

Havent watched all the vids yet though.

I was impressed with how well you used the nj.hp as an AA.
Plus i liked your pressure at times :smiley:

oh and feel free to add me, perhaps you can see my Adon and teach me some things :wink: I shall be trying to put up some vids this weekend!


#6
  • I drop alot of combos, not sure if its me or the fact I use pad, but its probably me lol
  • I tried a few times to do st.hk after ex jag kick but it never hit, so I use lk,rj instead. but maybe my timing is wrong?
  • Yeah I’ve been told I throw alot, not really sure why I do tbh
    thankyou for the input tho and if you notice anything else let me know (:

#7

Yo, um from what I seen you back off at akward times try to keep a good distance between you and your opponent so that you can punish things

-Work on some block strings in the corner and mix it up as much as possible to keep the opponent guessing
-Dont jump so much, I have this same problem tho just use adon’s quick walk speed to get in because you’ll have more options walking than jumping and that’ll keep the enemy guessing


#8

Ah you use pad! nice :smiley: I used to use pad. I find Adon easier on stick :wink:

The st.hk only catches with the tip and I think you have to walk forward a tiny bit. I could be wrong though. Out of habit, I use the lk.rj like yourself. Its one I need to work on also as I used to use the st.hk alot.


#9

I don’t even know why I back off sometimes,Its just a bad habit I seem to have got lol and I’ve only just noticed about the jumping so much so thankyou for pointing that out.Its something I need to fix

Yeah, I use pad, D-pad too,cant seem to get the hang of analogue. Was checking out this st.hk and I can only seem to get it to work sometimes. It must be just me lol


#10

Nice Adon, just 3 things:

  1. Don’t jump so much.
  2. Combine some blockstrings.
  3. Confuse your enemy.

Add me so we can spare some time, I also have to learn some things with adon :).


#11

needs more frame traps bro


#12

Sure add me if you want, I don’t understand what you mean by blockstrings?

Frame traps?


#13

I looked at this thread earlier and after realizing that I lost my account (havent logged here in months due to school, work, etc), decided to make a new one…

Anyways one thing I noticed (I watched a couple of your vids on Tuesday and you versus BS2 (Sagat just a minute ago)) was that you seem very in love with HK-Jaguar Tooth. While that does get you full screen and gets you back up close you may want to take advantage of the fact that mk-jt puts you into mk-jk range, although maybe a bit close for ex-jk. Still its a good way to fake those shoto-uppercuts and some other ultras (I fake out Ryu’s with Metsushoryuken since jt will loose to it). Your style isnt bad and I honestly like the fact that you throw although like someone mentioned throw in a bit more mixups so they dont know whats coming.

I am on psn but as soon as the semester’s done, will throw up some vids with my adon.


#14

Ok,so I need to

  • Jump less
  • Learn some blockstrings/frame traps (whatever they are lol)
  • Mix it up more and use less hk tooth
    Gotcha, Gives me something to work on for the moment. Also, I’ve been trying to learn ground IAJKs but I either end up jumping backwards or just doing jumping hk.Is there some special technique I dont know about or is it just really difficult on a d-pad to do?

#15

Probably this due to timing but I am just saying this because thats the case for me.


#16

I found it insanely hard to perform ajks on pad. You trying to tk them? I hear thats easier than jumping and doing it.
Personally I do basically a full circle as I fail at tk’ing them. So for me facing right its 963214+kick… Bad execution sure, but I find it reliable.

Also a frame trap to my understanding is when you do a move that will trap your opponent. So for instance cr.lk then close st.hp. Because there is a brief time between the two moves your opponent may try and throw something out and get ‘trapped’ by your hp. Bah its a shit explaination and its probably wrong.
Watch some of gamerbees matches, especially on his youtube channel. He does plenty of frametraps. I believe Zoro Blad? also does alot of frame traps and there is probably a better definition somewhere. :wink:


#17

I can do the air ones easily. Like when you jump and just do d/db/b k its just the ground ones that seem damn near impossible to pull off. [media=youtube]Subq4tAVBKE[/media] that’s what I’m trying to do,the standing iajk but I either jump back or I do jumping hk. I actually think it might not be possible to do on a d-pad lol


#18

yeah he is tk’ing it! I find that hard on stick!!! have you tried jumping and doing the motion immediately?
the problem i find with the tk is timing. Because you have to wait 4 frames before entering the kick after jumping it messes me up. :smiley:


#19

I have come to the conclusion its impossible on a d-pad lol. I gave up trying after an hour of not getting it once.Stupid motion lol


#20

I have a friend who plays Adon on pad, I could swear he does iajk’s ill ask him tonight if hes on. Also ive sent you a friends request Tigermoggy and Darkruiz81