Is practicing against the computer practical?


#1

I have been practicing links for a while, but I can’t pull them off consistently in real matches. I talk to some of my friends about going into training mode against the CPU and practicing my links against resistance. Some of them said it was a good idea because it may simulate the pressure I would feel in a real match, but others say that there’s not much to gain from fighting against the CPU because they frame-read all of my attacks. I want to get more opinions about this matter.

What do you guys think?


#2

Your friends are stupid. It’s not like the computer perfectly counters all your actions. Practicing execution against the computer works.


#3

Only in Virtua Fighter 4


#4

Practice against the computer mainly for counters and execution. Be aware of when you’re “truly countering” and when the computer is allowing you to counter. Playing against real opponents as you would against the computer is what leads many to have a “flowchart” playstyle.


#5

let me clear up some misconceptions right away.

not all AIs are created equally. just because ST AIs can read your input and react very well doesn’t mean SSF4 comps do. just because a comp uses a perfect reaction doesn’t mean it’s a practical one, hell it doesn’t even mean it’s the best reaction even if human players could pull it off consistently.

second, just because a computer is resistance doesn’t mean that the pressure from a computer is the same as it would be from a person.

to answer your question though, yes it’s practical. but IMO, you’d be better off going to the training room and setting the dummy on auto block.

last thing I wanted to say: just like the poster above here just said, there’s a misconception from playing comps that plagues players who train using them. just because a comp does something, responds a certain way, or is vulnerable to something doesn’t mean a human will be. as a matter of fact, even if you find something works on one player, don’t assume it works on another. instead of exploiting the weaknesses of the char’s user, exploit the weaknesses of the character they’re using. that way, no matter who uses that character, the weight of their weakness will be on them.


#6

it can be, but also play someone.


#7

Thanks for the clarification guys.


#8

Since you asked about learning to hit links, I have found that playing the computer in ssf4 with auto match turned on can help you improve your links. For example, if you are going to play ranked matches with Balrog, set the computer to easy and practice your bread and butters with rog while u wait. I was able to learn to do his loops and links just by doing that between matches. Just decide what combos or links you want to practice and you’ll get them for free during the down time between ranked matches.

Another thing to note is that you can learn some things from playing the computer, especially on higher difficulties. Oftentimes the computer will counter your attacks or play in a pre programmed method. Discovering the hole in the computers program (I believe there always is one intentionally left in there) can be rewarding and the method of discovering that “hole” can sometimes translate to dealing with human opponents.


#9

practice against the training dummy to get executions down.

practice against the arcade mode to get used to using those combos in actual battle situations.

practice against live opponents to get better at it


#10

im pretty sure im going to win evo this year.

i just beat ssf4 on max difficulty.

watch out guys, remember this user name.

i am a dark horse.

i never seen any vids of daigo beating ssf4 on max difficulty, so i think i can take him this year.


#11

^ stfu


#12

u mad cuz im stylin on u

bet u cant even get a round off of cpu on max freal son


#13

Auto-block and random block are useful (and record, if the game has it). I wouldn’t take anything you do against the CPU too seriously; winning or losing against them doesn’t mean much compared to human players.


#14

Basically, against the computer, you play as defensively as possible.


#15

Sure, put the computer on hardest, set the opponent to ryu and practice your combos. If you drop it, you WILL get shoryuken’d out of it.

Its similar to tazing yourself every time you drop a combo.