Is the "Xbox360 Hori Fighting Stick VX" good for street fighter?


#1

This stick right here http://www.amazon.com/Xbox360-Fighting-Stick-VX-Xbox-360/dp/B0057WDE8Q/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1327469493&sr=8-5
I know its an inexpensive stick but i cant afford the more expensive ones.

Please tell me if it is good for street fighter 4. What would you say is your success rate at pulling off these moves under pressure? hadoken, shoryuken, sonic boom, and piledriver


#2

I had a blazblue variant of one of these: http://www.amazon.com/Xbox360-Fighting-Stick-EX-Xbox-360/dp/B000V02P6Q/ref=sr_1_10?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1327476020&sr=1-10 and I got the best put down ever after beating someone “are you playing with a wooden stick?”

The VX may be better than the EX2, I don’t know but I would suspect they are similar and best avoided. That said a stick beats a pad (even if it does sound wooden) so it depends on your budget. I believe you can get an adapter for a wii TVC stick if you are having trouble sourcing an SE - not sure if it is as easy to mod or not but I heard it was basically an SE


#3

What is wrong with the EX2? Do you have trouble doing some specials? Is it hard to jump diagonally? Why didnt it work for you?


#4

I found that over time the buttons have gotten somewhat “sticky” and the pads on the base are glued on so they are prone to slipping, also the fact it sounds wooden was a drawback (loud). Diagonals are fine and to be honest when I first got the stick I liked it, seems like it wore out after only a few months though :frowning:

I already had a PS3 TE but that wasn’t working on my PC when I upgraded it so needed an XBox variant, couldn’t source a TE at the time so went with the EX2 as it was cheap, anyway as luck would have it an X360 TE came up on ebay so I took that and donated the EX2 to work. My advice is definitely try to source a TE, as I say though, maybe the VX has different components - I would say main drawback was the button wear


#5

I have the VX and so far I am enjoying it. Haven’t had any problems. All components are Sanwa parts except the select button and the turbo buttons.


#6

Whoa, whoa. The Fighting Stick VX does NOT have Sanwa parts. The Hori Real Arcade Pro VX-SA comes with Sanwa parts.

Essentially, it boils down to being an entry-level stick, for people who may want an arcade stick, but don’t see the point in dropping $100-150 on one.

This all being said, it is notably higher quality than the EX2 and the parts in it are of a pretty good quality, and it can easily be modded with Sanwa parts, so you don’t have to buy a new stick to upgrade it.

It’s all a matter of preference. If you want a decent stick without the price of a TE or VX-SA, get the VX, maybe upgrade it later when you want to get the real feel, or if the parts start to feel mushy, then get the Fighting Stick VX. If you don’t mind paying a bit more and having all Sanwa parts from the get-go, look for a TE or VX-SA.


#7

Oh Sorry I thought he was referring to the VX-SA I did not click on the link. Nerrage is correct.


#8

I have the same stick and it works fine if you just want to pick it up and start playing. However if you really want to “play” you’re gonna want to upgrade the parts (joystick, buttons, wires, etc.) which will cost a little bit of change, time, and elbow grease. Of course if you are unable to perform such a task or simply don’t want to, since you’d have to be spending extra money anyway you could just buy a stick that cost a bit more and has Sanwa/Seimitsu parts stock.

In my case I rolled up my sleeves and did it myself, aside from the $56 for the VX and the cost of the Sanwa stick and buttons (about $30 spent waaaay before hand) I only spent about $10 extra on wires, electrical tape, fasteners. So, by your own hands you could probably pull it off for slightly less than $100; buying it outright w/good parts - slightly more than $100.


#9

Save up some cash and get an Eightarc. Those things are like a hundred and ten bucks these days. Or just go for a brawlstick or Street Fighter SE, since from what I’ve heard those have better stock parts than the Hori ones.


#10

Ok lets say I buy the VX and decide not to upgrade its parts, what disadvantages will I have compared to other players who are using better arcade sticks? Will they be able to pull off moves at a much larger success rate than me or something like that ? I dont really mind the feel of the arcade stick as long as i am able to pull off moves successfully


#11

Two equally skilled players (with specific regard to their dexterity) attempting identical actions on two different sticks will see a difference in their success rates, but it’s pretty small. Especially as a new player, if you attempt an action, and don’t see the result you want, it’s because you messed up. Any of the entry level sticks here (the VX, the EX2, and any of the SE family) are perfectly fine.

A slightly more lengthy explanation:
So, if there’s a result you want (throwing a fireball, let’s say), there exists some set of wrist motions that will activate the microswitches in the joystick in the order you want. When you make an attempt at throwing a fireball, if your wrist motions fall within the set of motions that the stick will count as a fireball, that’s a successful action. If it doesn’t, well, you should have moved your wrist differently. With practice, you can learn to end up in the successful set more often. This is true for sticks of all quality - If you didn’t get the move you wanted, there exists something you could have done to get the move you wanted, and you didn’t do it (assuming that your stick is not actually broken). The difference is that in higher quality sticks, the set of actions that count as “successful” tends to be larger. You have a higher margin of error, which is nice. But the delta between better and worse sticks is pretty minimal and can always be made up for with skill, so it’s not that big of a deal with regard to purchasing decisions, especially if you’re on a limited budget.

People with a more flexible budget and a penchant for obsession worry a lot about the difference between sticks not only with regard to the size of their “successful action set” but more with the spaces in which the successful action sets between two different sticks don’t overlap (i.e. In some cases Motion X will count as a fireball on Stick A but not Stick B, meanwhile, Motion Y will count on Stick B and not Stick A. Which stick do you want? Well, it depends on if you’re more likely to end up with Motion X or Motion Y), as well as some of the more subjective qualities of sticks. But that shit’s for crazies, and if you just want to punch some dudes, a VX will be just fine. I’ve been using one stock for the last couple weeks instead of my HRAP EX, just to get a feel for it, and I don’t really have a ton to complain about.


#12

Basically everything Dyselon above said; plus the area of disadvantage you’ll most likely face regardless of skill is part degradation. Whatever parts HORI has stock in the VX probably won’t last as long as some Sanwas or Seimitsus even under the same length of time and force applied. If you’ve ever played in an arcade and felt sticky buttons or loose joysticks then you know what I mean, it’s inevitable. I’m not certain if there’s a warranty but who ever knows if your parts will malfunction before or after such a warranty expires or even if they’ll malfunction at all.

There are disadvantages to anything and everything equally but the biggest advantage I have with having upgraded my VX is that I have spare parts stored away and I know how to maintain it myself. For me that pays for itself in the long run.


#13

or the TL;DR version.

An arcade stick is a tool. You still need to practice to work with said tool. A high end stick doesn’t make a player better.


#14

I love the form factor of the Fighting Stick V series. Aside from it’s smaller, compact size, the stick suffers from entry level affordability. I would recommend everyone to start with stock Sanwa parts as a minimum as the FS VX doesn’t come with them and in order to get parts swapped out, you’ll need soldering work to be done but in the end, the stick is AWESOME!
I just completed mine the bare minimum with mine with a 5 pin wire harness for a Sanwa JLF stick and quick disconnects for Seimitsu buttons:

The only concern I have about this stick, that there are two daughter boards which makes rewiring the stick semi-permanent to ARCADE/CONTROLLER TYPE C


#15

Yes

It is better than the default MS game pad, or most standard game pads.
I saw the EX-2 is mentioned, the VX is better than the EX-2.

The VX is more or less on par with the Mad Catz WWE Brawl Stick

And a TE, or Hrap (V3/VX SA Pro included), Eightarc and a few other would be better. But a VX is a good stick to start out.

Its like how a Steering Wheel controller helps with driving games, or a flight stick helps with air craft games.

But your muscle memory will favor the game pad, so you have to practice to get the muscle memory for the stick.
After you physically get used to the stick, and develop that muscle memory you then start playing better.