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#20933

I somewhat interpret that as Vegeta already being familiar with the new Ki while Goku was still trying to get up to speed. It would be major salt to go around if Vegeta had the same weight as Goku and still struggled with the training exercise even with a head start on him training.

But you also can’t be like OMG this is so eas for me, you suck balls Kakkarot! When Goku still is supposed to be the main guy.


#20934

To be totally fair, Vegeta implies lifting the weights weren’t simply a strength thing:

Goku said Vegeta was probably stronger than himself, so we know that they’re equal at the very least.


#20935

Japanese or Global version?


#20936

GBL. I need to be able to read lol


#20937

My GLB is a bit on standby, not much to do until the tournament on the 28th. I usually play both, but using jpn’s foresight to prep my glb account.


#20938

Vegeta has more intellect mind when it comes to fighting, however his arrogance almost always gets the better of him. If he wasn’t so arrogant he would probably more above goku (with plot armor of course).


#20939

I just started on the weekend. Missed Super Gogeta… But some guy on Reddit had an extra new account with him. So I’m using that as a springboard.
Had some other good SSR cards in it too.

Spoiler

http://i.imgur.com/XQUm5Gh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/LU6xBM1.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/staKBHC.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/HPmOEnI.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/dKLPjpI.jpg


#20940

Quite the contrary. Goku is the one being a genius when it comes to fighting. Not saying Vegeta is dumb but Goku is the one that notices weaknesses and stuff on opponents when no else does. He found King Piccolo’s Baikaharu or whatever weakness (leaves himself open when powering up), he took Raditz’s tail/applied Full Nelson on him, he realized Freezer’s 100% form disadvantage, he found Hirudegarn’s weakness (well Gohan also noticed), Golden Freezer’s weakness (again), Vegeta’s pattern (check when Whis tells both their weaknesses) and how to counter Hit’s technique. Even when knowing Hit freezes time or whatever, Vegeta himself said “it’s not as easy as it sounds”.

This is on top of how he is the one finding all the next levels (SSJ, SSJ2, SSJ3, SSJG, Kaioken+SSG, etc)


#20941

Is it true that DBS is going on hiatus after this arc, due to the fixing of its shitty animation for future arcs? I keep seeing it on websites but they provide no sources.


#20942

I don’t recall reading that anywhere. The main issue with the animation is derived from them having different artist’ on Super. They just need a one to consistently work on it. The good one.


#20943

My old acc was trash, so I decided to reroll on the SSj3 Goku banner from a while back and keep saving stones. Managed to get 14 SSRs on the Gogeta/Gotenks banner.

Current team:

Spoiler

https://i.imgur.com/PI9TelV.jpg


#20944

The issue with Super is quite a bit deeper then that actually. Unlike DB or Z, it’s a completely original product, meaning they don’t have Toriyama’s storyboards as a basis to expand/adapt. Add in time constraints due to rushed production and the actual key animators don’t have enough time to compose fight scenes while doing corrections of other animators’ shots and you got a mess that until recently seemed flat out afraid of having fights.

Another problem most people don’t talk is the character designs. Look at these:

Tadayoshi Yamamuro (character designer from middle of Android arc until today), Minoru Maeda (Original character designer for the series since day 1 till he was replaced by Yamamuro) and Toriyama’s base.

Unlike Maeda, Yamamuro has tons of lines and stiff angles. The stiffer your drawing is, the less you can deform it to create actual motion. And when you strip the details down to make it doable on a normal schedule…

Shit happens.

Yamamuro’s art is harming DB, regardless of how “iconic” it is. The only time we get good motion in the series is when the animators completely ignore his style, like here:

You can say whatever you want about the art, that’s purely a time constraint, but it actually moves well and has strong sense of power behind it, even without the sound effects.


#20945

That’s crazy haha but at least I know someone that can answer questions for me! :tup:


#20946

Goku = Broken for no reason.
Gohan = Even more broken for no reason, got nerfed.
Vegeta = Tactician.
Piccolo = Strategist.

Remember when Vegeta threw dirt in Zarbon’s eyes? I miss shit like that.


#20947

Decades of training with different masters, constantly pushing himself to new levels purely for the sake of getting better is broken for no reason now?


#20948

Had no idea the issues were on that level, sparda. Thanks for breaking it down.

Lol, yep. He punched the shit outta Zarbon when he was blinded before knocking his ass in the water. It’s funny how Zarbon and Freeza’s other men were constantly calling Vegeta a dirty monkey, but started bitching up when Vegeta was shown to be stronger. Zarbon really thought Vegeta was going to give him a chance after all the shit he put him through.

He went hard on Freeza’s men:

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http://comic.dragonballcn.com/list/0.Dragon_Ball-buyao_daolian_ya/0.jp_Kanzenban/DRAGONBALLvol17/143-P1lKa.jpg

http://comic.dragonballcn.com/list/0.Dragon_Ball-buyao_daolian_ya/0.jp_Kanzenban/DRAGONBALLvol18/047-z7gAx.jpg

http://comic.dragonballcn.com/list/0.Dragon_Ball-buyao_daolian_ya/0.jp_Kanzenban/DRAGONBALLvol18/199-tDKFR.jpg

http://comic.dragonballcn.com/list/0.Dragon_Ball-buyao_daolian_ya/0.jp_Kanzenban/DRAGONBALLvol19/074-i5Fxy.jpg

http://comic.dragonballcn.com/list/0.Dragon_Ball-buyao_daolian_ya/0.jp_Kanzenban/DRAGONBALLvol19/188-fwz4c.jpg

http://comic.dragonballcn.com/list/0.Dragon_Ball-buyao_daolian_ya/0.jp_Kanzenban/DRAGONBALLvol19/189-AH60y.jpg

http://comic.dragonballcn.com/list/0.Dragon_Ball-buyao_daolian_ya/0.jp_Kanzenban/DRAGONBALLvol20/071-BEvdB.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/jZ5K5ax.gif

Can’t forget this:

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http://comic.dragonballcn.com/list/0.Dragon_Ball-buyao_daolian_ya/0.jp_Kanzenban/DRAGONBALLvol18/207-12FXw.jpg

Namek saga Vegeta was that nigga.


#20949

Yeah, I used to say that too, except half his training besides Whis was a pile of shit. Carrying milk, chasing Bubbles, really?

I think I’m the only one who wanted to see Gohan vs Vegeta all out.


#20950

why did supreme kai say gohan was the strongest at that tournament?

Spoiler

cant wait to hear this one


#20951

The same guy that was flabbergasted every time the saiyans showed how strong they really were?


#20952

so why did he say that saiyan boy gohan was the strongest there