Jamaican Set-ups

dee-jay

#1

So you finally got the knockdown.

Hard Kno****ckdowns (cr.mk, cr.hk, Forward throw)

Vortex
(You should know how to do this)

Chip Damage[details=Spoiler]
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Meaty Air Slash > M/H Sobat[/details]

Meaty pressure[details=Spoiler]
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(Counter hit M.sobat can combo into a FA)
Whiff Cr.HP > Meaty M.Sobat kick
[32 frames]

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Jumping whiffed normal > meaty Cr.LP (+7)

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Jumping whiffed normal > meaty Cl.HK

Beats:
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[]Throws
[
]Non GDLK backdashes (ROSE, CHUN, BOXER)
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Float has juggle potential- anything that works after a Exmgu
Recommended: Air slash, Super?

The Kraken
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Hard knockdown:
Whiffed kneeshot > Meaty Cr.Lk
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OS their wakeup[details=Spoiler]
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Example: Whiff Cr.HK > [OS of choice]

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This option select is weird to time for its really useful! Even close HP beats EX Messiah but Far HP puts Rufus in a juggle state to combo EX/HK dread kicks
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Safe jumps
Deejay Safe-Jump/Anti-SRK/Setup Guide

Reversal Baits[details=Spoiler]
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L.Sobat + Cl.lk Safe from 1frame supers- hold up
[35 frames] [13 frames]

L.Jacknife + Cl.lk
[37 frames] [13 frames]

2x Forward dashes
[(19+19)=38frames]

Cr.HK + Cl.lk
[38 frames] [13frames][/details]

Corpse hopping (Removes back charge/ change sides)[details=Spoiler]
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M.Jacknife:
[40 frames]

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EX.Sobat
[53 frames]

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L.Jacknife
[35 frames]
Use the few frames in which you can hold your charge to move backwards or forward to determine which side you’ll land on

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(against 6frame reversals)
Far Light punch > Instant Knee shot
[13 frames]
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Unblockables

Sagat

Spoiler

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Whiff Far.MP > wait a few frames >Delay’ed Kneeshot
[23 frames]

[Applies to:]
THawk- Crossup
*Rufus- Crossup *[details=Spoiler]
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*Barlog- Crossup *[details=Spoiler][media=youtube]if4r8DYjq4s[/media][/details]
Seth- Normal Jump in

A second set up for sagat’s unblockable, crosses up up on more characters than the other setup. Sagat can avoid this 1 by leaving his block in neutral.

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Whiff Cr.HP > Kneeshot
[32 frames]

Crossup:
RYU [details=Spoiler] [media=youtube]4DDgSqRL_88[/media] [/details]
KEN
ONI
YUN [details=Spoiler] [media=youtube]dx5RHK_76_s[/media][/details]
YANG
VIPER
CAMMY [details=Spoiler] [media=youtube]oChpvO2v7Do[/media] [/details]
EVIL RYU
GIEF [details=Spoiler] [media=youtube]l_Qb9oDswKw[/media] [/details]
RUFUS
BARLOG

Abel

Spoiler

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Whiff Cr.HP: Jmk (at the soonest possible time it would hit)
[32 frames]

Rufus

Spoiler

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Instant Overheads[details=Spoiler]
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Whiff Cl.HK > Instant J.MK
[38 frames]

Baits reversals
Hits (and baits) armoured moves

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Knee-cross (kneeshot crossups)

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Juri’s options are limited to blocking the crossup and ex-counter which can he reacted to. The rest of her options can be OS with cr.mk or cr.hk.
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Tech-able Knockdowns (Light Sobat, Non-EX MGU, Light Jacknife)

Safe jumps
Deejay Safe-Jump/Anti-SRK/Setup Guide

Empty jumps[details=Spoiler]
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Meaty pressure[details=Spoiler]
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Forward dash > Meaty St Cl.MP (+6)
[19 frames] [9th frame][/details]

Super/Ultra Knockdowns

Spoiler

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Super, slide, into knee hop set up
Cammy: knee hop into throw[/details]

Anti-Air Set-ups[details=Spoiler]
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Juggle U1 with late hit AA air slasher

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M.Sobat/H.Sobat Set ups

FADC resets
(all resets are risks for more damage)[details=Spoiler]
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After a H.Sobat FADC Deejay is at +6using a delayed Cr.lk (5frame start up) a standing ryu is tripped up and a new combo begins.

In this case the natural ender: Cl.mk, cr.lp, cr.mp xx Hsobat would have dealt 149 damage (resets should aim to beat this number)
Compared to the brand new combo cr.lk, cl.lp, cr.lp, cr.mp xx H.sobat 204 damage

If ryu was crouching this reset would not work. But the natural ender would change to be: Cl.mk, Cl.mk, cr.mp xx Hsobat *179 damage (Always recommended on wider characters) **

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Deejay’s throw deals 120 damage + Cl.mp (depending on current damage scaling).
In the first reset example it would deal (70x.7)= **49 + 120 = 169 damage **[/details]
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CH FAR Fierce

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365 damage, 490 Stun

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335 damage, 360 stun[/details]

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EX Jacknife
Meaty Air slash
Whiff L.jacknife (meter gain)


EX Sobat
H/Ex Air slash (chip)
Whiff L.jacknife (meter gain) Positioning Far-range [35 frames]
Whiff L.Sobat (meter gain) Positioning Far-range [37 frames]
Whiff M.jacknife (meter gain) Positioning Mid-range [40 frames]


#2

I don’t know every setup so feel free to submit any, I’ll add them to the post. (sadly I don’t have any unblockable technology)

I’ve included the total frames of whiffed move so you can feel free to substitute other moves in there place to make them your own or add onto those setups.


#3

Love the topic man, keep it up!

Also really like your format of:

(Youtube video)
Combo description
[frame] [data]


#4

Love the effort, going to look into 'em.


#5

Thanks its mostly to keep a record of the setups we have and noting down things Dj players do without realising it


#6

Thank you for posting this!


#7

Unblockables

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Sagat
Whiff Far.MP > Delay’ed Kneeshot
[23 frames]

[Applies to:]
THawk- Crossup
Rufus- Crossup
Barlog- Crossup
Seth- Normal Jump in

This should also work from cr.mk but forward throw would always put you in the same location were as cr.mk wouldn’t.

//Evo 2013//
Deejay is finally considered S tier for having a unblockable vortex on the whole roaster


#8

someone stole my video recorder. Once I get another one, I will post some setups


#9

That’s great Da Knut can’t wait to see what setups you have.

I think I’m getting somewhere-
You can crossup kneeshot on rufus after L.sobat, this could **maybe **be a unblockable meaning the danger of a death vortex (if i can get it after Cr.mk).
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[*]This is how I found the sagat unblockable by testing the forward throw crossup on sagat.
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#10

Instant Overheads
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Whiff Cl.HK > Instant J.MK
[38 frames]
Baits reversals
Hits (and baits) armoured moves


#11

correct me if im wrong but what kind of situation would you look to use the instant overhead against a hawk? isn’t it a free spd?


#12

it better end the match


#13

Could you eat his Ultra 2 too?


#14

Good to know something is possible, even if it isn’t immediately apparent in it’s use.


#15

Most if not every instant overheads (in the game) are free punishes. But I’ve seen plenty of matches ended by vega’s instant overheads.

THAWK reversal u2 beats this.
But (if you planning to abusing)
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[]After a hardknock down under “reversal baits” you have enough time to whiff Cl.HK+Cl.lk
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]So you could simply whiff the Cl.HK and bait the U2 if you’ve been doing it all match and he can’t seem to punish it.
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This also works **jumping backwards **but I would recommend mixing it up with other mixups. Just because we have a 90dmg overhead doesn’t mean you should always go for it.
The punishes for the crossover and jump back ones are different, I think its more obvious but THAWK can punish the jump back one with U2 (most likely -not tested) were as the crossup one mess up his inputs (post hit).
I’ll add these notes to the main topic if you guys want.


#16

Meaty pressure
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Jumping whiffed normal > meaty Cr.LP (+7)

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Jumping whiffed normal > meaty Cl.HK

Beats:
[LIST]
[]Throws
[
]Non GDLK backdashes (ROSE, CHUN, BOXXER)
[/LIST]
Float has juggle potential- anything that works after a Exmgu
Recommended: Air slash, Super?


#17

Random stuff I’ve done that i should have been posted. (Sorry for the music)

Juggle U1 with late hit AA air slasher
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Super, slide, into knee hop set up
Cammy: knee hop into throw
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Vega : knee hop into combo + bonus

Bonus is that some other players and I use a air to air knee hop and walk under the opponent to set up a combo (deejay has the 2nd fastest walk speed!)… I used to dash under in super but it looks so obvious
I usually use st MK because it looks like hard to catch. When they catch on, you can mix it up with stepping foward after you have crossed under them
which looks even more bizarre…
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#18

Very nice I’ll add a post super section, great example of the walk under after a AA kneeshot


#19

I want to add that it is best to watch your opponent and prepare to crouch tech if they are dp… i don’t know how safe this is, but I’ve also used it after u1/u2


#20

It’s not really safe, I’ve been hit out of it against some people who know it’s coming (Mostly dp characters). It’s a mixup but it gives you a great change to land a meaty close standing MK.