Latveria shall ever be Latveria- Dr Doom thread 2.0

his alternate spikey shoulder doom is a letdown tho :confused:

so, i figured out the secret doom tech and either I don’t understand its “broken” application, but its something really obvious and is a slight nerf to my doom style though so poopdicks. Anyway when you plasma beam super in ultimate it doesn’t compelte the animation for plasma beam anymore. I understand only one “Tech” for this and its very situational, so there yall go.

we knew about that :stuck_out_tongue:

I know, which is stupid that it was “secret”

did you ask seth about his “secret” doom tech?

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yea def stealing that foot dive after air throw to keep in corner. very nice.

http://www.twitch.tv/teamsp00ky/b/298132075 starts at around 31:00
i would have also liked to up my other match on the stream but i can’t seem to get the replay working for it i would have preferred to up that as i lost that one.

anyone got any tips comments etc post up

You seemed to figure this out in the match but against Dog don’t call Haggar unless he’s jumping in on you. If blocked, defend haggar with footdive or pushblock.

In game 3 that should have been a dead dog at 37:07. Forward throw into the corner, mash Hard kick guarantee’s a combo, corner combo three loops, level 3.

If you are considering team changes, I long ago swapped Haggar for Dante Jam session. Does pretty much the same as haggar, just not invincible. I don’t know the value of Dante to Wesker though.
Sounds crazy but if team changes are coming Viper/Doom/Dante (any order) may fit you. If the tier thread is to be believed your team is low tier right now.

Good Job beating Marlin.
My most recent stream match is here at 4 minutes in http://www.justin.tv/deadly_bison/b/297973768.
And read post 228 of the combo thread, dood.

I just picked up doom and i was playing some online matches and i realized something i can combo with doom but i dont exactly know how to move in with doom to get into position to combo. I run zero/doom/akuma. I was callin akuma in an attempt to get in but i couldnt stay in and i was having a hard time confirming…any help would be appreciated

Compared to Zero Doom cannot just get in. Akuma is a good assist for helping him get in though so you may need to simply change your approach. If you start with putting beams on screen you can notice how your opponent moves to get through it. When he looks vulnerable try something. The goto moves are superjump up forward air dash down forward j.M, jump dash j.M, and footdives. If your opponent is making obvious jumps maybe try to counter throw.

Any particular matchup/situation that is getting you blown up?
You can also try mixing in different assists. Zero/Doom/Ammy or Sent may be the best lockdown/practice my mixups assists. Once you feel comfortable try switching back to Akuma.

whenn using doom/akuma it is really important to be able to wavedash quickly in order to catch up to akuma’s tatsu while it bounces the opponent. You can try to do something like box jump j.m or sjuf ADDF j.m, cr.l , call akuma, cr.h. This is a pretty easy way to hit confirm. If you hit them akuma will bounce them, if they block you’re in a good position to try and setup a quick high/low mixup. When playing with doom it really helps to not try to force getting in. Take your time, you have some distance tools to do some chip and mess with the opponent. Wait for a good moment to get your chance, and be wary of the dreaded air grabs from characters like ammy and wesker.

well im playing online (since thats the only thing i can do) and its just seems impossible to get in with doom point blank period i will call akuma and get in but then i will get pushed out and zoned again. When i have them cornered i can mixup and win with doom anywhere outside of that im free with doom. I got shut down by magneto dante ryu akuma and some others but mainly these keep showing up on teams

be very careful throwing out akuma vs ryu or akuma or any character with a good beam hyper. that is a free dead character. you can try superjumping air photon shot, then dashing back down for a little bit of cover. or you can superjump FLY dash across the screen. are there any specifics you’ve tried but they counter?

I’ve tried throwing beam followed by akuma while rushing (got blocked) i’ve tried throwing photon rays in the air but usually when i try that i get hit when i try it…it also dawned on me that when i play doom im not really sure what i should be doin. I try zoning but at best i usually get jumped on or out zoned by magneto…Dooms standing normals are horrible and his cr m and h are to unsafe to throw out an when i call akuma doin those i get blown up for it HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO ME. Do any of you have psn i would play you online to show you what im doin if it will help to better my doom play

There are good videos of Doom players in the video thread. Lots of variety by players, at all skill levels. You can compare how you play to those for ideas.
In the Video Thread Posts:
131
141
154
155
172 Kevin Bacon
192 kensanity wins locals
204 My post : Marv wins locals with a doom team
206 Kevin Bacon

In this thread Post 1036 : Essex beats Marlin Pie . Essex has done well at several tournies.

Apologies to any missed doom matches. I am lazy.

DevilJin posted in the matchup thread regarding Magneto/fast beam attacks but I agree and will parrot his advice : don’t be there when the beam is out. I suggest not pressing buttons against Magneto until he commits to something. I often super jump straight up and then dash straight down to see what he does. If he is on autopilot you can blow him up with rushdown. Keep in mind Magneto is a bad matchup for everyone.

The exercise of looking for match videos showed me the current video thread is no good for that. We need to organize a bit. I suggest a match video thread : only matches and match commentary.

The other thought is what do we intend for the wiki? Should the wiki be the place to put canonical combos, tutorial, and hype match videos?
Is access available? How do we get that access? I am a bit tired of watching the first post go unupdated, remade, and unupdated again. It would be nice if the responsibility torch could be passed along conveniently.

i think hacing one thread for videos, one for combos, one for etc. is the best way to do it. We just cant have some random guy start the thread who is going to drop doom or isnt very active on the forums do it.

Thanks i think im just gonna drop doom til ultimate comes out since you cant do shit online anyways, if the online is better in the new game i will pick him up again but it sucks tryna get in on someone and your moves dont even register and you get punished for it

Well I will make a match video thread if no ones feels strongly against. I can pretty much guarantee I am keeping Doom. Just for his chair though Doom suxxorz.

Play who gives you fun. At the same time realize Doom is played patiently. A lot of time is spent pretending you don’t want to rush. And then you do. To setup mixups you must pressure with footdive. You beat any buttons with that. Once they start blocking you can use j.m .

Zero plays footsies with s.h and wins with priority. Doom footsies by moving his body. Its street fighter style versus mvc2. If you put doom where they expect you lose. He pokes with his body not his limbs. Search and relisten to the clockwork vs neo money match. Justin wong commentates. His comments on footsies in marvel is the best. Easily the best explanations anywhere. Everything he says applies to this game and Doom.