OK, so this is YET ANOTHER stick vs. pad thread I know, (sorry) but hopefully it will be a high level one with input from top players, which, from searching as much as possible, none of the other ones appear to be. I wanted to discuss the finer technical points of what is and isn?t possible on either option, and specifically for high level, non beginner HDR/ST play ( I?m not looking for SFIV for dummies, that?s why I posted in here where all the OG?s hang out).
I?ve recently impulse bought a TE fightstick online for playing HDR (got it new for half price, am waiting for delivery at the moment) because I think I?ve reached the limit of what I?m capable of on on my madcatz fightpad, and I find myself getting frustrated at higher level matches with top guys. My brain can see what?s going on, my reflexes are fine, and can make my fingers react with the dexterity they need, but I?m getting burned when I try to pull off difficult reversals, supers, etc in clutch moments and losing rounds I should be winning. The weak link is always the gamepad?s d-pad not allowing me the quick response and accuracy to get the moves with split second timing exactly when I need them. I know what a good opponent is doing most of the time, but the execution on the gamepad lets me down in reacting to it.
I know my game is going to take a nose-dive over the next while while I?m learning the stick, and I?ve kind of looked at it as a long term investment in my game, rather than a quick fix, but I?m concerned that I may never actually get back to the stage I?m at at the moment with pad play. To put it in perspective, I?ve been playing SF on pads for about 17 years all the way back since the origninal SF2 World warrior on the snes, my execution is good, I would consider myself an advanced level pad user. I?m fast and sharp, and can do most of the advanced techniques, moves, combos, etc with reasonable consistency, so I?m no noob. It?s the lack of that split second twitch response in a clutch situation where a move that?s off by a single frame, or a super reversal that doesn?t come out perfectly on wakeup will cost me a match that?s messing me up. Piano inputs etc don?t really bother me too much, it?s nice to have the ability to use them, but I can piano more or less effectively on a pad because of the way I have my buttons customised, and I can mash pretty fast too, although it?s easier to do on a 3 over 3 set of buttons on a cabinet than on a pad.
My question is, has anybody been in the same situation and would they recommend switching to stick and ditching pad totally even though it will mean a big adjustment and lots of dropped games now for a small increase in skill that could be a long way off. I know the game was designed for stick, and I have a feeling that my game will never advance further than it?s at now unless I go stick, and I?ll keep losing those clutch matches if I stick with the crummy d-pad on the garbage madcatz fightpad I have versus being able to consistently get what I want on a stick.
Stuff that?s causing me issues at the moment (I main dictator):
1 frame jump/charges, often if I snap to jump and immediately back to charge my character will miss the jump or jump in the wrong direction and I get KO?d. The throw and resistance of the D-pad just doesn?t allow for that level of accuracy at speed.
BFBF supers. A nightmare on a pad, especially from the left side, they?re just not fast enough or reliable enough for me in clutch situations.A thumb isn?t made to move like that fast enough. If I miss, I die.
Pressure on the pad causes pain and fatigue in my thumbs after about an hour of hi level play, my response rate drops, and I get slow and sluggish in reacting to things,
Also I have worn out the diaagonals on countless d-pads from holding down/back so much, and I regularly have to toss the pad out and learn a new one, which affects my game each time anyways.
What are people?s experiences of switching from pad to stick? Has anyone successfully made the transition and actually improved their game, and coming from an advanced level on a pad how long did it take to get back to where you were before using a stick?? What am I likely to gain in terms of technical execution, and does anybody have any recommendations on modding the gates on their sticks, or any recommendations (square, octo, circle gates, etc.) on what?s better for playing charge characters like dic??