People just need to be more open minded about it. The online players aren’t really saying offline play sucks…but a lot of offline players are saying online sucks, with some impression they have been given about online play in general. Kaillera is surprisingly stable compared to other forms of online gameplay (think, MMORPGs, RTS games, etc). It almost seems that the ones that make the assumptions about the online fighting games do it from experience of games like Diablo II which does have horrendous (and very random) lag.
At first I used to complain a lot about the lag…and while some lag still exists, the lag actually made me a better player. How? It forces you to have to improve your reaction speed to a point that far exceeds what is needed for offline gameplay. In addition, if you really want to win online without actually resorting to abusing lag tactics yourself, this means you will have to be even better at noticing patterns (in this case, noticing lag abuse patterns). Back in the day I used to complain a lot when people would do some low recovery move, then immediately roll through my character. I would blame lag, and it is true that lag (or rather, delay) reduces the chance that you will be able to punish that…but in reality the reason I couldn’t punish it (besides the delay) was that I just wasn’t focussing as hard on the game as I could have been. After enough playing like this, I was able to just know all possible actions the opponent could perform at any given situation (including all possible lag tactics), and I was ready for all of them. This was all improved because the lag initially prevented me from being able to beat it with the skill I had at the time, so I stepped it up.
If you’re 100% critical about the lag and have actually played on kaillera (like Serpent has), then you should do what he does. Play people with very low ping, on Excellent/LAN and even better, find a private server to go to.
As said in the other thread, 15ms ping corresponds to 0.9 frames of delay. 30ms ping is 1.8 frames of delay. Generally games are considered playable at <= 30ms ping. If you live reasonably close, and host a private server, you will have 0 ping and your opponent might have about 10-30 ping. That’s really not so bad. It also helps to choose a less laggy client…most people are stuck with mame32k 0.64, but others like Brandon, recommended FBA which even less delay, or so he says.
Edit: Furthermore there is the misconception that people that play online do not play in the arcades. I know quite a few people on kaillera that play against hard competition in the arcades, including some very good mexicans (kofman comes to mind). In fact, some of the best mexicans in the arcade, that have also attended the Big Bang tourney in Juarez, play online as well. There are also many chinese players online that also play in the arcade offline, and can probably beat a large majority of players that only play in the arcade and never online.
Bottom-line is, if you haven’t tried kaillera, don’t assume it is some unstable lag fest where you can’t move or execute specials/supers. There is some delay depending who you are playing against and some lag, again depending on who you play. Just play people with low pings, Excellent/LAN connection and possibly in a private server and there shouldn’t be much of a problem. At least try it before insulting it. The worst you can do is assume that they are scrubs because of this, especially when there are a variety of legitimate reasons why someone would have to play online…offline first hand experience is not the only way someone can learn how to play, if they are smart enough…just like you can self teach yourself to do computer programming using online resources without having to take actual courses, which is similar to people learning from watching match videos of the best players rather than having to play against them in person, in order to learn. If you’re smart enough to analyze things well, and your execution/reaction is good, you can be good without having any offline tournament experience. The thing is…this is just rare to see, but definitely possible. The notions that having no experience in offline tournaments means you are not a good player is just garbage.
Edit: And FYI, I haven’t been to offline tournaments but unlike what many people claim, I have played in some arcades before that arcade was shut down. Oh and guess what, the competition in that arcade (and another arcade I had went to) was generally worse than online play. My point isn’t that online players are better, it’s that being an offline player doesn’t automaticallly mean you are better than an online player.
And nothingxs, we need to play more 98.