Madcatz Street Fighter V Fightstick Alpha


#191

This was just posted over at NeoGAF:

There is more info in that link as well.

@Gummo has answered most of these questions - just trying to keep everything in one easy click!


#192

Madcatz uploaded two videos showing off the Alpha in action.

You can tell there is no wrist space. Kinda puts things in perspective on just how small the stick is.


#193

I think it is a little too expensive


#194

Going to wait a while for this one to go on sale to get it. It almost looks too small, it could also be the perfect coffee table stick though. I wonder what the weight is like.


#195

From the looks of it, it appears to be slightly heavier than the Hori Mini Fighting stick. It also looks to be of good quality (the Hori one isn’t bad at all either)

For right now, I’m pegging this Madcatz Alpha as a “Premium” mini fight stick. Double the price of the Hori, but this nets you the potential to have Sanwa parts, as well as much closer to a full size layout.

Fair?


#196

Would it be better than the wwe brawl stick clone?


#197

its better than the one in the brawlstick.


#198

So a crown 303 will fit? Guessing a Myoungshin Fanta is out of the question :smiley:


#199

The 303 requires a pretty deep case.


#200

as a pc user i would say its way to expensive. the stick + part price will be higher then a used te1 stick
and you need the mod tools. for ps4 users on the other hand it might be a nice option…


#201

can you quantify why?


#202

Probability because the new Alpha’s joystick a smoother, more precise operation compared to the brawl’s joystick.

So the old Mad Catz SE stick felt awful, the movement isn’t smooth and the directions can be inaccurate. They aren’t even worth trying to mod/fix, just swap them out for better Sanwa or Seimitsu joysticks
The tolerances are off during manufacturing so two joysticks from the same assembly line can be very different, and having any of the 4 switches off by a millimeter throws off the whole joystick for precision.
With the TvC and later Brawl joysticks, Mad Catz improved and refined their manufacturing methods and made the joysticks more accurate and more consistent with each other off the assembly line.
And there always marked improvement on every generation of manufacturing.

So when Gummo tells me he thinks the Alpha’s joystick is made better than the Brawl’s Joystick (with all his modding experience) I tend to listen.


#203

Yeah, Gummo is OP.


#204

There is more to a joystick than just the switches used in it. Other parts in a joystick effect the feel. The spring, gate, actuator cap, and pivot are all important parts.
In the SE and brawlstick the joystick pieces are more different than the jlf. The one in the alpha has a lot more of all those parts that get closer to that of a jlf.

The buttons are different than sanwas. Shell, plunger, and switch. I wouldnt be surprised if people want to swap those out because its not what people are used to. I think due to the case size limitation Madcatz had less options for the buttons. While regular size sanwas will fit they require the prongs being bent to fit quick disconnects. That wouldn’t be ideal for a manufactured stick. I haven’t looked into the realm of knock off buttons but I would imagine the options are slim for a low profile button that feels like a sanwa button. I know Seimitsu has the PS-15 which is low profile. Its possible that the alpha buttons are more similar to the PS-15 than anything else.


#205

hmm… glad i rechecked this thread. think i’m gonna cancel my preorder. assumed it’d have qd’s and clearance enough to throw in the extra sanwa stuff i had lying around and would be my easiest way into a standard sanwa setup on ps4. not into the bent peg idea and/or having to deal with a bunch of soldering stuff. definitely not worth it for a game i’ll just be half ass playing until t7 comes out

already have two ps3 sticks that shouldfunction just fine on ps4 but alas… gotta love that engineered obsolescence.

not too much faith in mcz’s long game right now either: http://www.polygon.com/2016/2/8/10939752/mad-catz-executive-board-changes-rock-band-4-earnings


#206

Idk what it will have for its final build. Even if it doesnt you don’t have to solder the qds on anyway. You can crimp them instead.

What do you have against having to bend the prongs? Sure if you repeatedly bend them then they will break off, but why would you have to do that.

If you want easiest sanwa setup on ps4 there is the TE+ or TE2+. Theres also the brook converters too.


#207

Based on an eyeball view, what do you think is the biggest stick that will fit in there? Is the jlf as tight a fit as i think it might be? I’m just wondering what it would take to put an ls-32/40 in there.


#208

I think OBS-MX reduces the below rim length. Those should work in this if I’m correct.


#209

Thanks for the insight Gummo. As soon as I saw the price for this thing I knew it would be better to mod a beater stick.


#210

One thing that limits what joystick can go in is the mounting posts. Essentially these posts go through the six holes in the jlf mounting plate and a cap covers it to keep the jlf plate in place and a screw keeps the cap on the post.