N Ken Thread


#289

I am pretty sure it is possible. It is just rare.

BTW: YuuVega (N.Dictator) vs Mattsun (N.Ken)
[media=youtube]99_Sd6yERjU[/media]
There are a few interesting things there:
[LIST]
[]backwards reversal Jab SRK [←(:arrow_lower_left:)↓:arrow_lower_right:+Jab, most likely] counter against Fierce Psycho Crusher (the very first time YuuVega used it, IIRC);
[
]“Hadouy crazy kick” (Inside Crescent) anti-air;
[*]several types of mix-ups into throw (whiff st.Jab, jumping Jab, jumping Jab xx Tatsumaki, cross-up Fwd cr.short, etc);
[/LIST]
plus Mattsun’s usual solid play.


#290

No, you got me wrong, Oldschool, because IT’S TOTTALY POSSIBLE to punish dictactor with standing fierce + 3 hits of the fierce dp, mattsun knows that, and that’s why he punishes dictactor with that combo.

Check this list

  1. Ryu*
  2. Ken*
  3. Guile
  4. Chun*
  5. Blanka
  6. Honda
  7. Sim
  8. Gief
  9. Hawk
  10. Deejay
  11. Cammy
  12. Fei
  13. Sagat
  14. Boxer
  15. Claw*
  16. Dictator
  17. Akuma*
    Ryu, Ken, Chun, Claw, Akuma can’t take the full standing fierce + 3 hits of the fierce dp.
    So i repeat again, how was that possible? ken vs ken no way!

#291

You must have been ducking. You’re bigger when you duck. no homo.


#292

OMG, Phil! The part after “BTW” is just cos this is the N.Ken thread. That has nothing to do with your question.


#293

lol


#294

This is the time-stamp of the SRK counter in the video.


#295

This Ken player is pretty sick. He makes Pony look like a newb here.

[media=youtube]1wZwBikm6V8[/media]


#296

man, all those walk up throws…


#297

In case anyone who doesn’t read the description

Man these footsies are so pure and intense/fast paced. I mean he never even jumps in and there are 2-3 dragon punches in the whole video?

I remembered watching 25th SF4 qual grand final snakeeyez gief vs (justin rufus?) and the stream monsters kept saying omgzfomg intense footsies11111! but in fact it was sooooooo freaking boring. Lots of walk back and forth feigning and no action. 15% life lead and then back off to your corners for 10 seconds.

TBF some of the ST honda MUs and claw MUs are like that too.


#298

I looked through the STR results section and there’s only one showing for Kamerya and that was an old Master Secret Cup tournament from the early 2000s. I remember that he entered X-MANIA earlier this year so it’s nice to see him still competiting.

Anyone know what event this video is from?


#299

Dude, this guy is really fucking fun to watch. If any of you have tried playing N Ken seriously, you will appreciate this guys execution. Something as simple as walking forward and going into cr hk is really fucking hard to do consistently due to the crazy kick motion. He looks like an old school player, his style reminds me of champion edition.

Here he is giving Mattsun a run for his money.

[media=youtube]QxuAIOf_9aU[/media]


#300

That’s some hot shit!


#301

What made it really entertaining was that Mattsun even took on an old school style of play for that set as well with jab feints and close short pressure… in addition to typical crazy Mattsun shit.


#302

“He’s an old-school player that, according to Daigo, has the best footsie action in ST.”


#303

I really like his style of play, and his willingness to limit his special use at close range. His timing and spacing with that sweep is impeccable.


#304

Mattsun is always in berserker mode with his fucking scary ken!. I prefer watching Mattsun over any other ST player.

Nuff said.


#305

I’m more curious if he’s doing df hk or db hk.

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#306

you can’t df hk walking forward, it will crazy kick. when you walk to the spacing you want, you have to go all the way to the back position, then go db hk to avoid crazy kicks. It’s harder then it looks. If you ever see a new ken player consistently be able to play footsies and cancel cr hk into fireball, you know that guys execution is legit.


#307

u r wrong, I always do fw, then df sweep then cancel into fb, just make sure to hold the roundhouse button down, if u release it u might get a crazy kick
I have seen djf doin it all the time, but not sure if he holds the kick buttons down


#308

I go from walking to neutral then straight down. I don’t like to hold the kicks cause I never felt comfertable doing that but thats just myn personal preference. For walking FB cancels without any pause whatsoever I use this too and go into a FB motion. If you go all the way to back for a sweep you you give up to much precision time in footsies.

Walking FB cancels is really helpfull vs Rog and Guile but it’s like there is a double barrier to get past. First you have to bypass the :f::df::d: crazy kick and then you have to find the timing to not get a DP instead of a FB. Takes a little practice in training mode but its not that hard to learn. Sooner or later you can do walking sweep into Fierce FB.

Kinda got of point there but I like this subject with Ken cause not many people recognize and appreciate it in the match vids when it happenes right in fornt of thier eyes.