New ssf4 zangief match up video thread!

zangief

#1

Apparently there’s a character cap, so i can’t add anymore videos to the zangief match up video thread. :annoy:

So to make shit easier, this will only be SSF4 videos for zangief which makes since but ok let’s get it started

BEFORE PATCHES

quick note: i really don’t like to add online matches, it’s not really a good method to determine both players true skill level but if they have fundamentals in them or it was someone gettting rape then please feel free to add them lol.

**Current Active Zangief players Location Outfit Used/Color Used Online Bp **

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[][LEFT]Vance aka Vangief Socal mecha[/LEFT]
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]Maho Shojo Zangitan Japan mecha
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[*]Aquasilk New York Classic
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VS SETH 7-3 ZANGIEf
[COLOR=black]SNR Teams- OnlineTony (Seth) vs Vangief (Zangief) 8/01/2010[/COLOR]
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VS AKUMA 7-3 ZANGIEF

VanGief (ZA) vs Ricky (AK) 6/24/2010
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VanGief (ZA) vs Nima (AK) 6/27/2010
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NEW SSF4
[COLOR=#0000ff][COLOR=black]SSF4: JAN ( ZA) VS Arcade UFO 3v3 SF4 - Winner’s Finals - Team Marn vs Team UFO Part 2 [/COLOR]4.17.10
YouTube - arcadeufo’s Channel

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VS SAGAT 6-4 ZANGIEF

NEW VIDEO!!!
Jan (zA) vs Jonlo (Sagat) Losers R5 6/12/10
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VS CHUN 6-4 ZANGIEF
MAGUS1234 (Chun-Li) vs Vangief (Gief) - ON NOTICE Grand Finals
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VanGief (ZA) vs VDon (CH) 6/24/2010
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VS BLANKA 6-4 ZANGIEF

Guard Crush 8 SSF4 Singles: Aquasilk (Zangief) vs EMP Rahsaan (blanka, gen) 9/16/2010
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SSFIV Ranked: zangitan_8516 (ZA) vs. chii_d-e-b_taa (BL)
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SNR Qualifiers 2010 - Hiro (Blanka) VS Vance (Zangief) P1
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SNR Qualifiers 2010 - Hiro (Blanka) VS Vance (Zangief) P2
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VS HONDA 6-4 OR 5-5 ZANGIEF

Vangief vs Mike Ross - KEYSTONE II - San Jose Bar & Grill 9/07/2010 NEW MATCH
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VS GUILE 6-4 ZANGIEF

VS DHALSIM 6-4 ZANGIEF

[COLOR=black]Filipino Champ vs Vangief - Keystone II Grand Finals 9/07/2010[/COLOR]
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VS ROSE 6-4 ZANGIEF

NEW VIDEO!!!
Kenneth (Ro) vs Jan (za) Losers R7 6/12/10
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VS FUERTE 6-4 ZANGIEF

VS BISON 4-6 ZANGIEF

Guard Crush 8 SSF4 Singles: EMP TwistedJago(bison) vs AquaSilk
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Joses (Bison) vs Vangief (Zangief) @ KEYSTONE II 9/07/2010
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VS C.VIPER 3-7 ZANGIEF

VS SAKURA 3-7 ZANGIEF

VS CAMMY 4-6 ZANGIEF

[COLOR=black]On Blast 4 Team EMP Kreymore EMP Jeron Aquasilk vs Team Tinshi Aulord [COLOR=blue]9/17/2010[/COLOR]

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Allen (Cammy) Vs Vance (Zangief) - Shadowbrooke, Norcal 8/25/2010
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(Cammy) vs Vangief ( Zangief ) Shadowbrooke 10-1-10 Allen
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VS RYU 5-5

SNR Teams- Alex Valle (Ryu) vs Vangief (Zangief) 8/01/2010
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VS KEN 4-6 ZANGIEF

EVO 2010 Semi’s Banana Ken (Ken) VS Vangief (Zangief)
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VS IBUKI 4-6 ZANGIEF

NEW VIDEO!!!
Jan ( za) vs fubarduck (Ib) Losers R3 6/12/10
[media=youtube]KHl1iur_luc&feature=channel"]YouTube - 6 12 10 Jan vs fubarduck Losers R3[/COLOR[/media]

[COLOR=red]VS ABEL 4-6 ZANGIEF

VanGief (ZA) vs Ramin (AB)
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VS JURI

VS RUFUS 4-6 ZANGIEF
Evo 2010 - Justin Wong (Rufus) vs Vangief (Zangief) Semi-Finals
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VS GUY 3-7

VS CODY 4-6 ZANGIEF

VanGief (ZA) vs Harrison (CO) 6/24/2010
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VS DAN 4-6 ZANGIEF

VS CLAW 4-6 ZANGIEF

VS BALROG 4-6 ZANGIEF
IFC Zangief ( Za) vs Simply PH33R (Boxer/Ryu) PART 2NEW VIDEO!!! 4/03/2010
YouTube - ifczangief’s Channel

IFC Zangief ( Za) vs Simply PH33R (Boxer/Ryu) NEW VIDEO!!! 4/03/2010
YouTube - ifczangief’s Channel

VS ADON 4-6 ZANGIEF

VS DUDLEY 4-6 ZANGIEF

VS FEILONG 4-6 ZANGIEF

VS DEE JAY 5-5

VS GEN 4-6 ZANGIEF

Guard Crush 8 SSF4 Singles: Aquasilk vs EMP Rahsaan 9/16/2010
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VS GOUKEN 4-6 ZANGIEF

VS HAKAN

VS MAKOTO 3-7 ZANGIEF

ZANGIEF VS ZANGIEF 10-0 LOL

vs YUN

VS YANG … for some reason i know this is going to be bad, a rekka character vs gief never looks good lol


#2

I dont agree with the rose (5-5 IMO) and balrog(6-4 in rogs favor, ssf4 only)matchup


#3

Reserved space!!!


#4

so do you guys have to delete your posts or can i still reserve it??

Reserved


#5

Well you have two more posts here now, a mod can delete my post and that other guy’s later on if you need more space.


#6

CAN’T YOU DELETE YOUR POST LOL. I mean, that would make thing so much easier, because you can always go back and delete any posts you have made. thanks man…now for mike to delete his … thanks you guys… i really appreciate your support thanks so such.


#7

I didn’t know I could delete my post, anyway I have done so


#8

Lol just call this the Vangief video thread!


#9

is Abel really still considered 3-7?

The Makato matchup feels more 2-8 to me lol. She just has a bad day…

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#10

Yeah seriously, Abel with u2 makes that match 5-5. Best Gief can do is get a life lead and try to bait out a random u2 and MAYBE you can back dash out of it. Otherwise the threat of it completely shuts down your approach game.


#11

I have a question on Guy? What makes this match 7-3 Gief?

I played this one PSN 4000PP Guy “kikokenSoySauce”. This dude backdashed/ex hurricaned out of every single run > over head. Not even a standing jab > ex gh could catch the recovery. Only EX version seemed to be spd punishable, and I had to be blazing fast. I even tried reg throw, no dice, so he kept punishing my punish attempts. Didn’t learn my lesson that I can’t punish the run > overhead and took 10 strait L’s. But I swear that move was neg on block…

Also, hard as shit to apply wake up pressure with the autocorrect, invincible ex hurricane. He also baited a ton on lariats by stopping short with an elbow drop > punish with slide.

Someone please explain how this is in Gief’s favor.


#12

Abel is a dedicated mix up character and he has to mix up a character that can’t be mixed up if you know this match up. Step kick is neutral on block so, he has to guess better than you, but in reality what can abel really do to gief? he can’t outpoke him, so basically what can abel do against gief on wake up safely can’t jump back because of short, can’t back dash, cr.lp os sweep and he can’t roll on wake up, zangief has safe jump os.ex spd which will snag him out of everything, he command throws are slower than yours…

i mean, the only way a abel is going to be a gief is if he’s just a better player and you don’t know the match up.

vs Rog
Rog has no options on wake up, once gief knocks him down it’s over also, cr.lp os ex hand he can’t throw out any rush they will get tagged. st.mp alone rapes alot of rogs pokes, safe jump knees os ex hand beats his back dash and ex rush upper. if you play solid you should win 6- times out of 10 .Unless he does his lp straight punch at the perfect distance then it’s safe it’s still too risky to go for, since you can ex hand on reaction or os ex hand or even if your good lp spd on reaction, that’s if you play solid and not random .


#13

Guy
Guy has almost no options vs gief, i mean most of his shit is really unsafe and if you know he’s going to do ex hurricane kick on wake up, BAIT THAT SHIT DOG… he has like a billion whiff recovery frames… come on now son. He can’t mix zangief up at all, maybe in the corner but cr.lariat beats out alot of his shit, and st.mp rapes his shit too. Haven’t you seen where they change his elbow drop so that its safe against command throw characters in the new version of super, because he can’t do shit vs a solid gief. Ask vance when was the last time he lost to a guy lol . Like in most of gief matches, the only way you should lose, is if you kill yourself by not knowing the match up…

besides 6 or 7 match ups gief rapes everyone else or 9 at the most or goes even , seth , sagat, akuma,blanka, chun, rose, guile, sim, ryu, thawk but most of these will change in next installment, now the main thing that was giving gief problems is gone in the seth match up, and his ultras got nerfed, blanka balls can be punished easier now without kara ex hand, rose u2 has no more god like invincibility, but everyone is still a problem.

EDIT:

i MEAN, theres no other gief right now, THAT I KNOW OF, since ifc zangief quit and jan doesn’t play gief anymore he uses cody and the videos of zangitan are fucking god awful that’s actually worth posting up. IF you have some send them my way. I want good quality videos not, scrub shit, we need to see gief being played at the highest level and that’s vance right now or until the japanese giefs get their shit back on


#14

I totally understand this, just that with u2 loaded and with the insane damage it does, just seems to turn the match to his favor considerably. You cant s.hk preempt wheel kicks any more, you cant jump out of step kick cause he can activate u2, you cant jump in and abuse his suspect AA game, and you certainly cant play a midrange poke game anymore either because your only escape is 3x backdash which if he times it right he can STILL snag you esp if your in the corner.

This is a tale of 2 match ups, when abel has u2 and when he doesn’t.


#15

Man, this might fly in the face of some but I’ve actually learned more from watching some jap dude named “window211” than vangief. All I’ve learned from Vance is that you need an exceptional yomi game and 90% accuracy on 1-frame links to take gief to the next level.

All I’m saying is Gief footage from any reputable player can be of help to alot of folks, just because it doesn’t help you doesn’t mean it wont help others.


#16

once he has ultra, he has to set you up for it big time and by then you have life lead, so basically don’t do anything stupid. st.hk besides beating wheel kicks is so bad in this match up, because he can u2, on whiff and cr.hk on block . all you have to do is play a solid game, once you get the life lead, he has to force you to make a mistake simple as that. if he step kicks and activate ultra that means he’s in your face jump over him lol that ultra doesn’t have instant start up and since step kick is neutral you have plenty of time, plus theres that freeze frame that gives you even more time.

Honestly the match up does change, it’s simply to rose, you just can’t do reckless shit once they both have ultra, that’s why i said play solid, he has to bait you more than you have to bait him… please understand that.

That’s why i said, THAT I PERSONALLY KNOW OF. Its like, i haven’t seen any other gief videos and trust me, i have been looking thats worth posting. i’m no dick rider or anything but i want people to see the best of the best and nothing less. For example, i watched cantona, koji kog, itabashi, zangitan , aloha, ifczangief, ultradavid and jan before i even knew who vance was and you seen all of their videos up there. but like i said most of those guys don’t have any recent videos up.

zangitan has been scrubbing it out hard, like i understand people have bad days but god damn… and theres a few more like this i just don’t want to see my hero be blasted. He use to be so god like, even vance, vegitax and few other top players admire him but wtf is going on in ssf4 lol

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#17

japanese wiki has abel vs zangief 5:5
it’s definitely not 3:7 with zangief’s reduced life, reduced damage, nerfed lariat and nerfed cr lk and abel’s new uc2
how can it still be 3:7 with so many changes?
4:6 at most, 5:5 is fair,
and dont forget able’s tornado throw beats zangief’s every special move on the ground.


#18

This fact alone always had me wondering why the matchup was so lopsided in sf4 v.1. I mean seriously, high level Abels I’d always see them make Gief’s bunny hop like crazy. I shadow the Abel boards too and they have a theory overall why Abel is sooo much better in Super. Since most high level Abels still choose u1, its not just that he’s got u2. He is a character that takes a loooooooong time to master. Abel players have just leveled up their shit tremendously in the last year.


#19

I’ve felt that way in general for a long time - especially as a new character with a moveset such as his…but I can co-sign some of the original lop-sidedness…it was essentially us verse sagat in reverse…we have the tools to beat his every move and setup. With that said I’ve never been comfortable with the 7-3 idea, but let it ‘ride’ because frankly I’m no one, but 6-4 is about as ‘lopsided’ as I’d give it. shrug

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#20

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OMG Aqua’s back lol - that video was godlike