Oni AE 2012 Corner Setups

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Alright first of all I don’t really know how known these setups are and I am not done testing yet but I tried to figure out some j.HK corner fake crossup setups after a forward throw in the corner and figured I should create a thread like this to share my results. The general rule is that j.HK is going to be a fake crossup and j.MK is going to be a crossup (feels like juri haha). I am not sure about the exact amount of frames to make some of these unblockables but it really seems to be around 45 frames since Seths unblockable is Forward throw into corner > Dash > whiff throw > j.HK. Now if I do the whiff throw right after the dash it usually whiffs so I have to delay it for ~2 frames to make it work.

Dash + Forward throw whiff = 43 frames
Dash + s.HP = 46 frames
s.MP + b.MP = 44 frames

Thats what I’ve figured out this afternoon so far:

fwd throw > dash > s.HP > j.HK fake crossup vs fuerte
fwd throw > dash > s.HP > j.HK fake crossup vs Fei Long
fwd throw > dash > s.HP > j.HK fake crossup vs rose
fwd throw > dash > s.HP > j.HK fake crossup vs Deejay
fwd throw > dash > s.HP > j.HK fake crossup vs Yun / Yang
fwd throw > dash > s.HP > j.HK fake crossup vs Viper
fwd throw > dash > s.HP > j.HK fake crossup dhalsim
fwd throw > dash > s.HP > j.HK fake crossup vs dudley
fwd throw > dash > s.HP > j.HK fake crossup vs Juri
fwd throw > dash > s.HP > j.LK fake crossup vs Cammy also lands in front

fwd throw > b.MP s.MP > j.HK OS U2 (fake crossup, shits all over zangief with OS ultra / EX DP
fwd throw > b.MP s.MP > j.HK fake crossup against rufus, lands behind
fwd throw > b.MP s.MP > j.HK fake crossup vs bison
fwd throw > b.MP s.MP > j.HK unblockable vs gen tricky timing though (45 frames) manually delay for 1 frame
fwd throw > b.MP s.MP > j.HK unblockable vs akuma tricky timing though (45 frames)

fwd throw > dash > throw > j.HK j.LK fake crossup on guile
fwd throw > dash > throw > j.HK fake crossup on branka
fwd throw > dash > throw > j.HK fake crossup vs Sakura
fwd throw > dash > throw > j.HK fake crossup vs makoto
fwd throw > dash > throw > j.MK** unblockable vs Cody amazingly practical**
fwd throw > dash > throw > j.HK fake crossup vs Ken
fwd throw > dash > throw > j.HK fake crossup vs ryu

fwd throw > dash > delay throw (~2 frames) > j.HK fake crossup vs ibuki whiffs on normalblock (os throw)
fwd throw > dash > delay throw (~2 frames) > j.HK fake crossup sagat
fwd throw > dash > delay throw (~2 frames) > j.HK unblockable vs seth

fwd throw > cr.MP b.MP > j.HK fake crossup vs blanka

I couldn’t get anything to work on the rest properly.