I’ve been comparing Ryu and Ken and I have a quick question about frame data. when it says something like “1~3 invincible” does that include startup frames for that move? I noticed that Ken’s light shoryuken has 3 frames of start up and invincible for the first three frames, so does that mean that it will always reach its active frames? Meanwhile Ryu only has 1~2 frames invincibility (and 3 start up), so if someone is jump-attacking at Ryu while Ryu is getting up with a shoryuken then theres 1 frame where their attack can hit Ryu before the shoryuken can get to its active frames.
I’m asking this because if this works as I described then this is a big advantage for Ken that no “Ryu vs Ken” thread I found on Google seemed to mention.