Ryu Season 2

ryu

#113

Was in the same thought boat as you… Tried akuma, felt really different also he is pretty much a super shoto. Came back to Ryu and it feels great. :slight_smile:

Laura is just top tier and well… Don’t like throwers


#114

I rarely post, but I’m gonna do it now.

I agree with the AA nerf because tbh theres too many people reliant on mashing out DP during a blockstring and on wakeup. I’ve missed meaties since the older games and I’m fine with the change.

I think the lk nerf is dumb but it’ happened so deal.

i also feel like while it’s totally understandable to bitch about being nerfed a ton-- some of us do want to keep playing this character, and in either this thread or another we should start formulating overall pivots for strategy. If all we do is keep bitching we’re still gonna be stuck here.

So if anybody has any ideas post patch for pivot with Ryu that doesn’t involve switching to Akuma, please list. I’m in NORCAL till Thurs visiting my GF so I can’t really do any meaningful study till I’m back with a PS4 in hand.


#115

Nah, taking away the THREAT of a DP is stupid. If a player is able to mash out through block strings, that is on the player for messing up the strings or because he/she is careless and not looking out for DP. You can also bait out mashed DP’s on Blcok strings too. It just takes away from having BOTH players think about these things and is what made SF fun. Now that fun factor is gone.

Now I have to lolol at my “special [nothing special about it now]” move when it gets casually jabbed and thrown. This tactic is catering to lame scrubs who cry “masher” every time they lose [who am I kidding they even say that when they win] to a ryu or Ken. They could never handle it, so guess what, lets just weaken the system for them.

Some event hub members work for Capcom, tell the mods to inquire!


#116

My general feeling on this Ryu is that they wanted to build a classic zoning character in a game engine that is nearly antagonistic to zoning. In doing so, they are creating a character that doesn’t make sense in the system.

Ryu is almost by definition a linear character. He has one game plan, throw fireballs and punish you for doing something. If you take the safest route of blocking, you lose by being chipped out. However, in this game, zoning is almost not a thing unless you’re Guile.

If you are going to remove his zoning aspect, then you need to give him better tools to fight in the neutral or give him some serious pressure options. Nearly all the characters without a FB in this game have far superior pressure options to make up for it.

Without a command throw, he has to take high risks to open up turtles with Shimmes which can backfire in a game that rewards mashing. Without his DP, he can’t stuff overly aggressive people. Normal throws really aren’t that rewarding in this game when you consider the risk / reward profile.

I think the problem for this iteration of SF and Ryu is that they said, “we want to tone down zoning,” which is cool, but they didn’t fully think through about how you actually make a full 2D fighting game character when you tone down what was the core essence of the design of the game and the character.

Sorry for the long dribble.


#117

In 3S you cannot mash dp. Once you let go of block you will be hit by the string.

They should have removed auto block in sfv if they want to avoid mashing. Make players commit to blocking.


#118

I don’t know about you but 3S, CVS2, A2, and even ST were fun without the threat of a random DP just that nobody earned coming out of nowhere. I would rather have frame traps than random DP bullshit. Also If i knock you down you better take that hit because i earned it and learn how to deal with it. idk, that’s always how I enjoyed SF and I know a lot of people who fucking hated 4 when it came out for the reason that the reversal windows and the invincibility on DP’s and the like made meaty’s nigh impossible.

to each his own though. But it’s not an eventhubs scrub thing. a lot of old school players like this change.


#119

That’s what made SF4 exciting, the mind games, the various options you had to watch out for and make sure your strings are on point. I felt a third hand touching my controller when I baited out DP’s on blockstrings, and DP’d an overconfident careless block string, punishing both with joy, ah, good times. Now we have normal’s stuffing DP’s on Block strings, this is noob friendly ridiculousness. Don’t get me wrong, I still bait out stuff but I will also by accident jab a DP, lol.


#120

Man ryu is so free on wake up.


#121

Use meter.


#122

Been thrashing around real hard with ryu. Looks like c.mp is really good in footsies during normal game play.

Also, j.heavy , s.mp x2, s.HP , s.hk / mix up vt and super is really good.

Try it.


#123

Ryu should still be played like s1… just the only differences are no oki off f.grab, no inv uppercut and j.lk got nerfed.

Still play your basic Ryu game and you’ll rekt as you normally did.

Just no more cheap stuff and I’m ok with it… guess we just gotta get used to his slower normals.


#124

LOL meter dependant ryu on wakeup.


#125

^Just block makmak!


#126

Any tips for waking up against command grab characters?


#127

Rofl. The “nerfs” Ryu received is nothing compared to what they did to Chun.


#128

You can still bust out opponents’ imperfect block strings. Anything with more than 2 frame gap you can time your DP out. You just cannot mash it out mindlessly after initial blocking. And you are talking about carelessness?


#129

Yeah I know how to block since sf 2.

This is what I have been talking about.

So how many spd ryu receives before getting a single bar?


#130

Best bet is to jump lol but still can be punish


#131

I’m getting so used to stHP->Specials, but seriouslyneed to become a thing even without VT and to work also as MP>HP>

Ryu will be so much more fun


#132

His DP gets stuffed and jabbed out of. What’s worse is he gets thrown out of it.

The stubby normals makes only 2 approaches, jump or fireball. SF2Turbo Ryu was better than this.
Im done with the game its boring me, they sucked out all the fun.

Might be back when the new characters hit.