SA3: Shippu Jinrai Kyaku and HP Shoryu Punishes

ken

#1

Lets try to compile a list of all the important moves that can only be punished by a Shippu.
First off, the Shippu is Ken’s Super in this game, and comes from SF3 and the VS Series. Its defining feature is its good damage, sitting at 300, good comboability, and starting up in only 2 frames allows it to punish anything thats -2. Not quite a Final Atomic Buster, but still useful.

An important thing to remember when punishing -2 moves is to be ready for them, activate Jinrai as a reversal, and make sure you are in range. Just because Dhalsim’s move in -2 doesn’t mean you can punish it if hes full screen. Remember that Shippu costs 2 bars and is -19 on block, so make sure you comitt to punishing a move before throwing it out there.

Another thing to consider is doing an Alpha Counter and Tag canceling instead on punishing with Shippu. Ken’s lucky to have his DP as an alpha counter, while quite a few other characters dont have Alpha Counters they can combo after, so use this well. If you have the timing, this could be a better option, but its nice to know what shippu punishes as well.

So far, I have typed things that are punishable by HP Shoryu as well as things that are punishable by Shippu. If a move cant be punished by both, it’ll be marked.

Abel

Spoiler

Far MP
Far HP
Far HK
Close MP
Crouch MP
Crouch MK

Shoulder Tackle EX (Shippu Only)

Akuma

Spoiler

Far HP
Far MK
HK Tatsu

Far LK (Shippu Only)
Cr.MK (Shippu Only)
Zugaihatsu (F+MP Overhead) (Shippu Only)

Boxer

Spoiler

MP Dash Straight
EX Dash Straight
EX Dash Upper

Cammy

Spoiler

Close MK

Far MP (Shippu Only)
Far MK (Shippu Only)

Chun Li

Spoiler

Far MP
Far HP
Far MK
Close MP
Crouch MK
LK Spinning Bird Kick

Kakusenshu (f+mk) (Shippu only)
LK Hazanshu (Shippu Only)
HK Lightning Legs (Shippu Only)

Dhalsim

Spoiler

Standing MP
Standing MK
Razor Chop (f+lp)
HK Yoga Blast
Yoga Inferno

Crouch MK (Shippu Only)
DF+lp (Shippu Only)

Guile

Spoiler

Close HP

Far MK (Shippu Only)
Far HK (Shippu Only)
Close MP (Shippu Only)
Straight Chop (f+mp) (Shippu Only)
Target Combo (Shippu Only)

Hugo

Spoiler

Monster Lariat EX

Crouch MK (Shippu Only)

Ibuki

Spoiler

LK Tsumuji

Crouch MP (Shippu Only)
Agemen (b+mp) (Shippu Only)
MK Tsumuji, extra sweep (Shippu Only)

Juri

Spoiler

Far MK
Crouch MK
Fuhajin (the actual kick not the fireball)
Shikusen (Air Dive Kick, all versions)

LK Senpusha (Shippu Only)

Ken

Spoiler

MK Tatsumaki

Crouch LK (Shippu Only)
Forward Step Kick (f+mk) (Shippu Only)

Dictator

Spoiler

Far MK
Far HK

Far LP (Shippu Only)
Close HK (Shippu Only)
Crouch MK (Shippu Only)
LK Double Knee Press (Shippu Only)

Poison

Spoiler

Whip of Love (any strength any hit)
Aeolus Edge MP

Far HK (Shippu Only)
Close HP (Shippu Only)

Rolento

Spoiler

Trick Rod (f+MK)
Mekong Delta Attack EX
Mekong Delta Air Raid EX Follow Up
EX Patriot Circle

Crouch LK (Shippu Only)

Rufus

Spoiler

Far MK
Crouch MK
HK Messiah Kick (no follow up)

Galactic Tornado LP and HP (Shippu Only)

Ryu

Spoiler

EX Joudan
Up close, you can punish a Hadoken on Hit or Block

Collarbone breaker( f+MP) (Shippu Only)
Solar Plexus Strike (f+HP) (Shippu Only)

Sagat

Spoiler

Close MK

Far MP (Shippu Only)
Far HP (Shippu Only)
Far MK (Shippu Only)
Close MP (Shippu Only)
Crouch MK (Shippu Only)

Claw

Spoiler

Far MK
LP Rolling Crystal Flash

Far MP (Shippu Only)
EX Flying Barcelona Attack (Shippu Only)

Zangief

Spoiler

#2

Asuka

Spoiler

Thunder Fall Kick (f+HK) (Shippu Only)
Leg Cutter (df+lk) (Shippu Only)
Jab Uppercut (mp, lp) (Shippu Only)

Bob

Spoiler

Far HP
Gaufrettes Cutter (MK, MP, HP)
Lyonnaise Break (P During Spinner Ball)

Close MK (Shippu Only)
Contorno Force (d+HK, HK, HK) (Shippu Only)
Langue Washer (LP during Special Step) (Shippu Only)

Heihachi

Spoiler

Jichinsai (LP, LP)
Double Palm Strike (f+lp, lp)
Rising Uppercut (all strengths)

Crouch MK (Shippu Only)
Tatarigoroshi (b+mp) (Shippu Only)
Raijin Stance LP (Shippu Only)
Left Right Combo (LP, b+mp) (Shippu Only)

Hwoarang

Spoiler

Flamingo Kick Combo (LK > MK During Flamingo)

Jin

Spoiler

Far HK
Thrusting Uppercut
Swaying Willow (MP or HP during Mental Alertness)

Far MK (Shippu Only)
Spinning Hook Kick (s.LP, MP, MK) (Shippu Only)

Julia

Spoiler

Crouch MK

Far MK (Shippu Only)
Close MK (Shippu Only)
Crouch MP (Shippu Only)

Kazuya

Spoiler

Far HK

King

Spoiler

Far MP
Far HP
Close HK

Crouch MP (Shippu Only)
LK Konvict Kick (Shippu Only)

Kuma

Spoiler

Crouch MP
Crouch HP

Far MK (Shippu Only)
Bear Smash (F+HP) (Shippu Only)
Jab Elbow Smash (MP, MP, LK) (Shippu Only)
Triple Hammer 1st Hit (B+HP) (Shippu Only)
Megaton Claw LP/EX (Shippu Only)

Law

Spoiler

Dragon Hammer (f+MP)
EX Shaolin Spin Kicks

Shin Crusher (df+LK) (Shippu Only)
Machine Gun Arrow 2nd-6th Hit (close lp lp lp lp lp lp) (Shippu Only)

Lili

Spoiler

Far HP (Shippu Only)
Crouch HP (Shippu Only)
Crouch MK (Shippu Only)
Alpha Counter (Shippu Only)
Heavy Languish (d+MP, f+HP)(Shippu Only)
Bed Time (LP, f+MP, MK) (Shippu Only)
Dendrobium LP-HP (Shippu Only)

Mardooook

Spoiler

Far MP
Crouch MP

Revolving Trap Kick (LK, MK or HK or MP) (Shippu Only)
Jab Body Combo (MP, d+HP) (Shippu Only)

Nina

Spoiler

Crouch HP
Crouch LK
Bermuda Triangle
Blonde to Uppercut
df+lk
Creeping Snake to Left Low Uppercut

Far MK (Shippu Only)
Crouch MP (Shippu Only)
Crouch MK (Shippu Only)
Ivory Cutter (LP+MK) (Shippu Only)
Biting Snake Knockdown (MK During Biting Snake) (Shippu Only)
df+lk, mp (Shippu Only)

Ogre

Spoiler

uf+LK, MK
Snake Blade (d+lk, d+mk, d+mk)

Far MK (Shippu Only)
F+HK (Shippu Only)
EX Indigo Punch (Shippu Only)

Paul

Spoiler

Shredder LK

Far MK (Shippu Only)
Crouch LK (Shippu Only)
Crouch MK (Shippu Only)

Raven

Spoiler

Crouch MP
F+MK
Crossed Ninja Stars HP (up close)

Far LK (Shippu Only)

Steve

Spoiler

Chopping Straight (df+mp)
Hellfire (up close)
Fox Hunt (LP during Ducking)

Ducking Hook (LP after Ducking Body) (Shippu Only)

Xiayou

Spoiler

Crouch LK
Fortune 2nd Hit (P during Fortune)
Fortune Cookie 3rd Hit and EX 3rd Hit (P during Fortune Cookie 2nd Hit)
Wave Crest and Wave Crest EX
Phoenix Talon EX

Far LK (Shippu Only)
Alpha Counter (Shippu Only)
Double Map Sweep LK (Shippu Only)
Flower Power MP (Shippu Only)
Mistrust LK-EX (Shippu Only)

Yoshimitsu

Spoiler

f+HK

Crouch MP (Shippu Only)
Crouch MK (Shippu Only)


#3

I should probably look these over. I’m not using the supers as much as I should be.


#4

I’ll try to fill out some characters today, just made the template last night


#5

this thread is pretty good. i’ll also do my part by contributing to this thread.


#6

Updated the SF characters, first post is mostly complete.


#7

If it has 2 frames startup then it should be able to punish anything that is -2 and below


#8

CRAP
Youre right.

Well, everything I typed in so far can be punished by HP Shoryu as well as Shippu. I’ll try to compile a Shippu list soon.


#9

i hate kazuya please make his list! XD


#10

Sure. He has one move that is punishable by HP Shoryu (Far HK) and 0 that are solely by Shippu, lol.

Kazuya is either very safe or very unsafe on his moves, i’d check the frame data yourself if you’re having problems.


#11

All characters have been updated to include all possible punishes with HP shoryu and Shippu. Eventually this guide will try to include moves that are punishable on hit as well.


#12

great thread!


#13

Thanks. I dont play this game anymore but I might update it to include DLC characters sometime.