Well, I just want to point it out that I was not saying people should do this or that, I was just stating what happens when I see people getting serious losses at the arcade. Those were probably just random people. The will of helping other people out is up to whoever is good enough to do so. They may not even have time, in the first place.
As for being aware that newcomers are to get defeated for sure when they start, I believe anyone who is used to competition will know, but the fact is not everyone is used to it. I agree with you that they should know. I certainly expect every person who posts in this section to, e.g., know Chun Li has an anti-air special in ST and HDR, that they will lose every round to a player that is much better than them (in case they are not already top), and so on. But I can not tell much about how much better they expect to get. There are people who can invest time in the game and will hope to get near pro, others only play when they can and only expect to get a bit better over time, while some just know they don have the desire or their life obligations are such that they can not expect to achieve a great level at the game. As for some guy I’ve never seen inserting a coin at a ST cab, who knows? Perhaps he only played SFII 15 years ago and on the SNES against the CPU and does not actually know ST.
In the above paragraph, when I say “know” I mean he is at least aware of the basic strategies, knows most normals and all special moves from all characters, among other things. So, for the sake of this message, a guy who is aware ST has super moves and faster game speed does not really “know” the game, necessarily. In that sense, the vast majority of people do not know the game. So some random guy accepts a challenge and gets destroyed, I am not sure the chances of him belonging to this group are not higher than 50%.
Maybe I am an optimist, but I feel a bunch of people who do not know the game, but play A2/A3/Marvel or whatever, could end up liking it, because it is good. Hell, even if they play Mario or whatever. But they do not understand where its value is when they first play or just watch. A few might check forums such as this one and wonder: “if people play this ST game till today, maybe it is really a good game,” and decide to try harder and learn stuff, check the character threads, NH2’s blog, YT vids, but a number of them don’t. I can give you personal examples of this. Some people from where I work were former casual A2/3 players and I would play ST with them. Occasionally, they would ask to play some alpha game, though. Nowadays, whenever we play, no-one even questions which SF version we are gonna use.
A similar thing may happen when it comes to competition. Video-games have started as a player against the machine activity. Until today, I still believe most electronic games are either single player or played against AIs. Or at least they are cooperative, such as Metal Slug or Final Fight, just to mention 2 games which we can play with GGPO. I have no numbers on the thing, but I suppose it is not uncommon that one gets what he or she can from a game and only considers facing other players after that. SFII would be this way, years ago: many would only risk themselves in PvP after they could at least reach the bosses in single player mode. But when they get to compete with others, they like the excitement. On the other hand, their first enemy could be, e.g., their young brother. Over time, they not only get used to competition, but end up getting hooked: they play a person, or don’t play at all. Would they start with a game that is not like Mario Kart, that has built-in functions that help the ones losing and a lot of unpredictability, that might not happen. As you have mentioned, a number of games are such that, depending on the difference of skill, the loser does not obtain even the minimal achievement. A SF player never wins a round, a Quake player never gets a frag, etc. If they do not understand why, in the first place, they may not even learn real competition in order to like it. My belief is that in SF, against an average player, there is a large margin where you never win, than a not that big margin where you have a chance of winning and a chance of losing, and then a margin where you never lose. However, I would not expect the average Joe to be aware of that.
Now, while I say some lose and just walk away, I ain’t saying this is a major problem. Some may not even consider it a problem in the first place. Even if we all do, still I am not saying that is should be addressed, as there is a high chance the effort will not be rewarded and depending on where the person lives, there is a strong scene already. I agree 100% that the ones who love the game will stick to it, or at least try as much as they can, but I also state that people who still do not may like ST and join us.
As for me, I have always disliked supers, but with the ST section in SRK, fatboy’s threads, NH2’s blog, GGPO and the tons of videos on YT - sorry about the ones whose actions I do not recall right now - here I am posting shit about the game. OK, it HDR and not ST, but they seem similar enough. I would narrowly defeat my elder brother in the SNES era, but the first time I was challenged at the arcade it was like 8 or so blocked jumping roundhouses into throw, and I seriously considered stopping, or that it was unfair, or that the game was actually not good. It was a huge turn off.
As for the main idea of the thread, what I try is to play as well as I can with the character. One is not required to stick to a single one, I believe people gotta live with it. I dislike when I do not pose a good enough fight and people switch characters around, but my view is that it is up to me to try and force them to get back to their main. I do get kind of offended but I do not wish it is something that the other player should be worried about.
I often do that with my friends. And I am stupid enough to try it having never actually landed one, even in training mode or with a “player-controlled” character with no-one on the stick. In my defense: I’m sure I am not the only one! :lol: