Setups/Mixups/General Tech thread

ryu

#1

The place for, well, what the title says. Meaty setups, safe jumps, resets, mixups, character specific combos/technology, etc. Let’s try to compile it all in one place.

Here is some assorted stuff I’ve collected. I will update this periodically.

Safe Jump:
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[*]Off CC Sweep - Whiff St. HK, neutral jump HK
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Resets:
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[]After a connected jumping MP, if they backroll, doing grounded LK Tatsu just before they land looks extremely ambiguous and can leave you either side depending on your timing.
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]After target combo xx V-Trigger in the corner, jab into forward dash can leave you on either side depending on if you hold forward after the dash or not.
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Meaty Setup:
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[]Off EX Hadoken - Dash Dash MP hits meaty on quick stand and Dash Dash St. HK hits meaty on backroll.
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]Off forward throw - F. HP hits meaty on quick stand
[*]Off HK Tatsu - Immediate axe kick
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CHARACTER TECH

Ken:
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[*]Punish EX DP with counter hit neutral jump HK into F. HP into huge damage. Very difficult, jump HK must hit very deep.
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Edit 4/8/16: Added forward throw and HK tatsu meaty setups. Added Ken tech


#2

Thanks for this! Still so much to get my noob head around


#3

By the way, if anyone knows how to do those spoiler tags that would be very helpful


#4

great info! thanks


#5

Ok, I’m really bad but I think I figured out some meaty tech I haven’t seen here or in the meaty video:

After HK Tatsu, if you axe kick immediately and they didn’t quick rise – wiff CR.short, cr.MP seems to hit meaty, counter hitting 3f jabs.

Maybe someone who understands frame data better can confirm is this is actually a true meaty or not. I did a bunch of reps vs comp and I’m pretty sure.


#6

On a similar note, if you forward throw, wiff solar plexus (they didn’t quick rise), I think wiff St.jab, sweep hits meaty, crush counters 3f jabs.

Can someone confirm?


#7

You don’t use sweep as a meaty. It’s punishable on block if they just …block.

The meaty you want after a whiff solar plexus is a st.hk back HK because it’s probably his best manually timed meaty, in fact it’s just one of the best meatys in the entire game.

EDIT: Meant Back HK not S.HK


#8

I actually dislike using st. HK as a meaty. There are frames when they wake up where they are standing but they can be canceled into a crouching attack. If they wake up with low jab or low short or crouching anything they can beat it clean, sort defeating the point of the meaty.


#9

I mean back HK, not the Crush Counter button, I’ll edit that in. Yeah, you would never use St.HK as a meaty it’s rubbish and not meant for that.


#10

B.HK is just so used, especially against moves that travel towards you.