No, he shouldn’t.
Wonder if people will still be mad if Q is chun’s dad. Though I can’t see it myself personally.
I wouldn’t be mad, but just convinced Capcom doesn’t actually care about the story they’ve made themselves (or hole they’ve dug for themselves).
There are just some characters that have been dead, are dead, and will remain dead, and those are Goutetsu, Chun-Li’s father, and Dan’s father. All 3 are dead, and if they weren’t they would be too old to fight as each are around Gen’s age by now in SF3. I’ll give Capcom a pass with Oro since he’s ancient, but let’s not make this a recurring thing. If we are ever to see those 3, it NEEDS to be in an SF Alpha version, and the story would have to happen when Ryu and Ken are perhaps Mel’s age now. Speaking of Mel, he’s too young to be fighting – in SF3, he is 3 yrs old. Unless SFV happens at least 13 years after SF3, then let’s let him be a kid. You really wanna be beating up a kid who hasn’t even reached puberty yet? Long story short, unless Capcom does a complete reboot of SF, these characters, right now, can’t happen.
Someone made a point about Charlie, and that we all just assumed he was dead after he defeated Bison, but it was never confirmed, that’s why he’s back. Charlie not being dead, okay Capcom, fine. But at least he’s still at an age where he can battle.
Batsu doesn’t play like Akuma.
I’m hoping for characters representing the following countries: Canada, Australia, Finland, and some latin country that isn’t Brazil, Mexico or Spain.
I wouldn’t be mad but at this point it wouldn’t make sense from what we know about Q. He has blonde hair barely peaking from underneath his mask in a few pics. I know we can’t count artwork as the gospel but him being her father is a weird concept…even for the street fighter universe. I’ve wanted to know his story for a while but I feel ANYTHING at this point would be disappointing, no matter what background info it turned out to be. Better to keep the mystery…he still literally makes no sense which to me anyway is why he is so interesting. He wins a round, turns his back to the player in bewilderment looking up at the sky and all around rambling to himself, like he doesn’t understand anything. Organic material present in his body but can survive detonations that come somewhere from him. Stalking after particular children who always seem to be well dressed indicating possible wealth or a lead for him to “investigate” (or maybe looking too far into that one). “X Ray” shots of him when electrocuted show some freaky muscle structure instead of bone and his mask, not what’s behind it. The mask “eyes” are supposedly just cutouts with the yellow glow coming from whatever is behind it. A lot of neat details rolled into him that keep the questions coming on what he is. But if he’s Chun’s dad somehow, so be it.
Double posted it up =/
He has the air hadouken, so there’s no sense on having him.
Who knows. I just want more Juri though. That is top priority for me right now.
If existing capcom character:
Dean from FF - Can play a bit like benimaru I guess
Carlos from FF - (Not sure if they would have someone who fights with a sword though)
Kyosuke from Rival Schools - Was too bad ass in CVS2 (even tho he was extremely low tier)
Anyone else from Rival Schools - Dude with benimaru hair and knife? maybe he can play like Yamazaki from CVS2
Colonel Wolfman from delta red (or any other delta red person - Maybe ginzu, who will play like Bao or Choi from KOF)
Dudleys Butler - A secret badass? (see below re salaryman)
Dude from an Arab country - looks like your typical arab dude with a box beard with kheffiyah and sunglasses. He would use “Sand” attacks, I pictured him playing similar to Oswald from KOF
Aborigini woman from Australia - Is a “crocodile hunter” like Steve Irwin. Uses “survival techniques”
Mounty from Canada - Picture the show Due South. Would play a bit like Heidern.
Sassy “drunk” woman from Ireland - Lookswise, imagine B.Jenet from Garou, but with red hair (obviously)
Grappler from one of the Nordic countries (Maybe Sweden) - Picture one of the dudes from World Strongman contest. Zangief type.
Indonesian Guy - Would wear a sarong and a muslim type “hat”. Would practice Silat, with a small knife.
Salaryman (any country) - would be the comic relief character. Would wear a suit and nerd glasses. Imagine phoenix wright with glasses. Would fight with briefcase. He knows how to fight because he was bullied at school and is secretly ripped and has several black belts in various martial arts. His win pose might actually reveal his true prowess. Cries when he physically lands attacks - even tho its him on the offensive - because he remembers all those bad childhood memories (lol) and he is getting his nerd revenge. Still has some teenage acne. Character name would actually BE Salaryman. Motivation for entering the tournament? to pay off his mortgage obviously.
Black dude or woman with huge afro USA? - Stuck in the 70s? speak with the jive turkey language like black dynamite. Plays like fei longish with nun chucks with Karim Abdul Jabbar underwear and shirt from game of death.
As you can see I like KOF alot, which isnt necessarily a bad thing (would love CVS3 btw if anyone cares)
He already has his own original gamestyle, introducing him into Street Fighter only to change his gameplay? Don’t think so.
Sand attacks? Could you explain that more? It sounds more like a Darkstalkers/Killer Instinct character, or it fits more with KOF, you know, all those weird energies they use. Otherwise, sounds truly stereotypical.
I like these.
I don’t think we need any more grappler.
No, please no. Street Fighter is overall a serious game. Even the most comic relief characters, like Dan or Hakan, are true martial arts. Salaryman just no, it sounds terrible, it reminds me of Norimaro on Marvel Superheroes vs Street Fighter.
Forget about my other post, Mexico and Brazil could use some good/serious fighters.
I need a girl grappler, built like She-Hulk here. I’m not talking about a quick rushdown gimmick character. I’m talking a legitimate grappler, a high health, highly damaging, slow-moving behemoth of a girl. 6’5, 230 lbs. Canadian lumberjill. Practices heavy athletics with some okichitaw. Has moves inspired by caber tossing, tree felling and log rolling. Has an ultra where she makes the northern lights appear by how hard she flips you in the air. And of course, like She-Hulk, has a booty drop.
Standard damaging command grab. She grabs you by the legs and flips you high into the air, before catching you again and piledriving you.
Similar to Hugo’s meat squasher, a corner-carrying command grab where she faceplants you into the ground and then “log rolls” your body by running on top of you, smashing you into the wall. Has her arms folded while she does it. Humiliating and damaging.
Sounds completely terrible. Street Fighter is not about stereotypes, at least at not that extent. Why do everyone think about “lumberjacks” when they think of a Canadian fighter? That’s like the lowest exercise of imagination possible, and the worst Capcom could do.
Now add the “strong woman” stereotype, and what do you get? Some vomit-inducing big cheesy cartoonish stereotypical facepalmy uninspired and idiotique design, probably worthy of Clay Fighter or Kasumi Ninja at best.
As “bad” as their designers might have become by the Street Fighter IV era, they wouldn’t indulge in that pedestrian levels of design. I’m 99.8% sure if they ever introduce a Canadian character, it will have nothing to do with “lumberjacks”, aside from probable some (terrible) alternate costume.
You don’t know what you’re talking about. Why is Zangief a red-wearing soviet musclehead who likes borscht and calls everyone “comrade”? Why are all the American characters blonde white guys, who are involved in the military, arrogant douchebags, or a really fat arrogant douchebag? Why does Fuerte keep talking about tortillas, quesadillas and burritos? Why is T. Hawk a native with feathers in his cap who talks about totems and goes “HAOW” and has a pet hawk? Why is Elena obsessed with animals and nature, and Dudley obsessed with tea? There’s a level of stereotype to ALL the characters in SF. My character is actually less of a stereotype in comparison, unless you’re deliberately imagining her as a comedy “fat and ugly” heavyweight girl, which is something only shitty western devs do, and not what I’m envisioning at all. Capcom is a Japanese company, they design all their girls according to what they like about girls. There isn’t a single girl in the entire SF universe that they deliberately made unattractive, I don’t see why they’d start here. Besides, Capcom already has an attractive heavyweight girl in the SF universe, which is B. Widow from Slammasters 2. That was the bodytype I imagined my character having, except with longer hair. So really your conclusion about it being an uninspired design is baseless and stupid since she only exists in concept at the moment anyways and you applied a “western studio” way of thinking to it.
As someone who was born and raised in Canada I don’t think of a lumberjack as being an offensive stereotype at all, and a “lumberjill” even less so since those are practically unheard of. Most people don’t even know there’s a term for a female lumberjack. Instead of an offensive thing I see it as a prideful representation of Canada. I don’t know if you’re aware but there’s quite a lot of nature here, and some of the stereotypes ring true about us; we DO love drinking, we do love hockey, we have a lot of lumber which we get a lot of use out of, we like the cold, we love maple syrup and we do a lot of oil-related work. In any case, it’s mostly an origin story, and an excuse to give her that awesome log rolling move which I take a lot of pride in.
Street Fighter II is no more.
Because he sucks. El Fuerte is a failure of a character.
That’s still a very VERY little detail, Dudley’s not exactly your stereotype of an English man, that would be Eagle, maybe.
I see it like this:
- Street Fighter I = Bland stereotypes.
- Street Fighter II = Hugely exaggerated and colorful stereotypes, only with really unique and attractive designs gimmicks.
- Street Fighter 0 = Anime and mostly unique designs
- Street Fighter III = Exotic and unique designs with some little anime inspirations (I’m looking at you, Q, Yun, Yang, Gill…)
- Street Fighter IV = Weird and grotesque designs (in one way or another) mainly (Abel and C. Viper are exceptions, Juri’s really over the top, the rest are horrible)
Take Street Fighter III for example, Oro is not your stereotypical Brazilian, Remy and Abel are not your stereotypical French men, Elena is not your stereotypical African girl, and at some extent they just stopped caring about nationality representations.
It’s still the most boring representation of a Canadian stereotype, and Canadian fighters are for sure nothing alike. Lumberjacking is not a martial art.
Better look at what Dead or Alive did with their Canadian boxing man, a character doesn’t have to be an stereotype to represent a country.
Lumberjacks still make nothing sense. I like Mexico and a Mexican high flyer luchador makes sense since it’s a martial art (even when the food references are so offensive and idiotique, but let’s face it, that’s what Japan likes about Mexico, the food), but they wouldn’t add a Mexican charro fighter wearing a sombrero and fighting with a Mariachi guitar.
A colorful and cartoony character like that can work in a “festival” game like the MvC series, but not on Street Fighter.
If there is a canadian fighter it better not be a lumberjack type…oh please no. I don’t know how they would do it but no reference to igloo’s, lumberjacks or any…“old” Canadian stereotype. Ours are just bad…
Or if it turns out to be true…Juri could use a new punching bag…and I wouldn’t mind seeing her wipe the floor with me…I mean “ahem”… “us”.
Again, if we’re judging characters based on how stereotypical they are, mine is no more stereotypical than Elena (who is a dancing tribal princess that talks to rhinos and elephants, I should remind you). And I quite clearly said my character’s fighting style is based on okichitaw and strength athletics, not “lumberjacking” as if it’s a martial art. That’s just a failure of reading comprehension on your part. The fact that I came up with two moves for her regarding her that are loosely related to lumberjacking (when they’re actually just clever subversions of stereotypes) is not indicative of her as a whole, because there’s still a whole movelist to fill up with other styles of moves. Also, caber tossing isn’t even a Canadian thing, it’s from Scotland.
You just straight up admitted that lot of the characters are stereotypes, going against your earlier sentiment that they “aren’t stereotypical to this extent”. Even SF3 has characters designed with stereotypes in mind, like Alex, Elena, Dudley, Sean and the Lee twins. They’re LESS stereotypical than what they had before, but they’re still stereotypical. I don’t really care about that though, as long as it results in characters that are interesting. My character is not such a stereotype, I’m not gonna have her wearing a toque and gargling maple syrup. She just works in a milling facility, which is actually quite common around here, and has some moves inspired by it.
Street Fighter isn’t about colorful characters? That’s nonsense, get the fuck out of here. If it didn’t have a colorful cast then the roster would be full of bland, boring losers like Mike and Joe from SF1.
That’s even MORE fucking boring. What’s the point? Boxing does not have anything to do with Canada, so now you have a character who doesn’t even have anything based on their Canadian heritage, which means the character might as well be from anywhere. There’s no point in saying he’s from Canada. Street Fighter ALWAYS manifests some representation of the characters’ homes when they design them. They don’t just randomly make a character and say “oh he’s from South America or something”. There’s always a tie-in to their heritage.
Her personality still has absolutely nothing to do with what people think about African people.
Still the most boring I’ve ever heard.
Nah, I don’t think they’re stereotypical at all, there’s a huge difference between having some air from a country and being a stereotype.
There’s a huge difference between “colorful” and “straight from a kids coloring book”.
I just read your idea of a character and I think in the boar girl from Bloody Roar, and that sucks and doesn’t belong to Street Fighter.
That’s exactly the idea, a character DOES NOT necessarily have to look like your stereotypical idea of people from some country. KOF for example, Angel is not your stereotypical Mexican girl and they LOVE her in Mexico. Because with her they dared to break the tradition.
Take Elena, is Capoeira an African martial art? Not at all. I’m sure if you were you would give her some voodoo powers or something.
Do skateboarding and rollerskates have something to do with China? Nope. But they gave that to Yun and Yang simply to make them unique, the fact they wear Chinese shirts doesn’t make them stereotypes.
Does Necro looks Russian to you?
Street Fighter itself is sick of stereotypes, and if they’re bringing a Canadian character for first time to the franchise, I don’t want it to be a lumberjack.
Russian wrestler? OK, made sense, specially since they based him on a real person.
Military American? Made sense, militar boxing exists.
Dhalsim? Stretching arms is not really an Indian stereotype, but thanks to that he became a unique character.
But look at Claw, for example, a Spanish mix between a ninja and a matador, much more than a stereotype. Look at Cammy. Look at Rose. That’s what Street Fighter is about. Who the hell has true respect for T. Hawk, or Dee Jay, as character designs? No one, really.
Are you kidding? The idea behind her reaches 1940’s propaganda sort of stereotyping.
I disagree, and don’t really care what you think.
This statement makes no sense at all. Where, in a kids coloring book, would you ever find any of these characters, mine in particular? I don’t understand.
Then don’t think of that character. Why would you think of a Bloody Roar character in Street Fighter? That also makes no sense.
Okay. Where did I say anything about what my character looked like? You just automatically jumped to a conclusion that it “looked like” a stereotypical image of a Canadian, which… I don’t even know what that looks like, if one exists. You’re basing this all on the fact that I mentioned she worked as a lumberjill, and nothing more. I think you might be the one with stereotypes ingrained in your psyche. Contrary to what you believe not all of them have a specific “look” to them.
Another place where you’re wrong. You were saying?
I was referring more to the fact that they’re both kung fu movie stereotypes and their names are literally “Yin and Yang” but okay whatever.
The game is “sick of stereotypes” even though the latest game brought back all of the stereotyped characters and even made new ones like Hakan, Fuerte and Rufus. Okay then.
And again, you’re basing this all on your ignorant assumptions of what I intended for my character idea instead of what I actually intended. You personally believe that I intended for her to be some of stereotype like T. Hawk or Dee Jay simply because I mentioned her occupation. This whole time you’ve been talking out of your ass because of a personal image you have about Canadians instead of what was actually insinuated. You’ve been exposed as an idiot, thanks for playing.