Ssf4 ae zangief match up video thread

zangief

#1

The matches that i have here, are of various giefs, but i try to keep the videos centered around high level or pro-level giefs only. In these videos, you will see many different techniques being applied. Strategies from what you have read and even might discover new things. I hope this, helps people out. Oh yeah, before I forget, I tried to have the most updated videos to showcase, what’s actually been done as of now. One of the reason was because, a lot of the newer videos displays better ways of getting around certain things in the most practical way.

If theres anyone with any videos that they think should be here please list them and I will add them in order. Also there’s many more videos that i will be adding as they come along but if there’s anyone here that doesn’t want their videos posted, i will sadly remove them thanks and i hope someone finds this thread helpful.

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i also put the what the match is imho, theres a few that as the game progresses we will figure out but as of now… a few i felt, i should leave blank, ie yang, yun, oni akuma, seth, evil ryu.

TOP ZANGIEF BP RANKINGS.
1: CANTONA - 64,859/G.MASTER
2: Mahoshojo Zangitan - 59,435/G.MASTER
3: Hagejin - 51,141/MASTER
4: Itabashi Zangief - 49,344/MASTER
5: Mother?Bee - 40,445/MASTER

TOP AMERICAN ZANGIEF PLAYERS
1.VANCE "VANGIEF"
2. AQUASILK " SILKY SMOOTH"
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4.
5.

VS SAGAT … 3-7
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVgpI8Q0GFk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTg3PPAR8as&feature=related

VS ONI AKUMA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmiNHMMuGnI&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikJNDmh6E58&feature=related
go to 20:00 theres 3 matches
VS AKUMA 3-7
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVlyjy2nvtM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9TEGlaCttA&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ou6SvaajyaE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9TEGlaCttA&list=PLEC7061FBFDE53FB3
VS BLANKA 4-6 OR 5-5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0Tk5yTq_II&playnext=1&list=PLEC7061FBFDE53FB3
VS CHUN LI 3-7

VS ROSE 4-6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxAxiirVatc&feature=related
VS SIM 4-6
VS BOXER 5-5


go to 4.21

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikJNDmh6E58&feature=related
GO TO 8:00
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k11zwz4DSyM
go to 7:12

VS CAMMY 6-4
VS SETH
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikJNDmh6E58&feature=related
GO TO 15:00
VS DUDLEY 6-4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmEBE_XMkvc

VS CLAW 5-5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JB3biaqOapY


goto 9:21,12:28,18:35,23:34

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcWkWEUMibA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jd3YvCvtOco&feature=related
go to 4:45

VS DICTATOR 4-6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aUNjPro85Q
go to 7:41
VS YUN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Oebq3YFUlk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9I4yDiquBWA&feature=related
VS YANG
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVl-rXzpsFw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZWOoP_0IEI&feature=related

VS GOUKEN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClMAUY_0QI0

VS KEN 5-5


go to 26:43
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-KpQAqITpM&feature=related

VS RYU 5-5
VS EVIL RYU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LuAEucoo_M zANGITAN TROLLING
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUSMdeJoNxY
VS SAKURA 5-5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6F6IH4KU_s&feature=feedu
go to 0.42,9:29,15:42

VS ABEL 6-4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKVZGlDYrJA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ed1rYdvNpY
VS GEN 6-4
VS CODY 5-5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17iXCenug9I&feature=related
VS C.VIPER 6-4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWKm8n6-Zxg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAUYkzMpwtM
VS DEE JAY 5-5
VS THAWK 4-6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0UU3Phk34o&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NW2xvVgBl4&feature=related
go to 9:37

VS EHONDA 4-6

VS EL FUERTE 4-6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otBuWV9pLBg this is a why it’s a bad match
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTkyEiQKBzs&feature=related

VS ADON 6-4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCVZctRGbCE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikJNDmh6E58&feature=related

VS FEILONG 4-6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20qXv6E16nI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLOm8h21t5E
VS GUY 6-4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XC7MhUobaQ&feature=related
VS GUILE -4-6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5EdSAiOxJM
VS JURI 4-6 OR WORST
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab9YBzRxq8Y&feature=related
VS MAKOTO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i9vHRxNdB0&feature=related
VS RUFUS 6-4

VS IBUKI 6-4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QM3HW-Pa6v0&feature=related
VS DAN
VS HAKAN 6-4
VS ZANGIEF 9-1 LOL


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#5

I just see one fantastic japanese video where C A N T O N A really show what gief can do…

I will search it again…

edit:

Here is the video…

I must say that Gief is half of the movie, the T.Hawk also is a G.Master that i follow closely…

0:00 Sakura vs Yun 1:31 Sakura vs Zangief 4:21 Zangief vs Boxer 6:46 Zangief vs Claw 9:29 Zangief vs Sakura 12:28 Zangief vs Claw 15:42 Zangief vs Sakura 18:35 Zangief vs Claw 21:20 Zangief vs Ken 23:34 Zangief vs Claw 26:43 Zangief vs Ken 29:23 Ken vs T.Hawk 30:47 T.Hawk vs Claw 33:35 T.Hawk vs Guile 35:03 T.Hawk vs Dictator 36:28 T.Hawk vs Claw 39:05 T.Hawk vs Guile 40:42 T.Hawk vs Claw 43:35 T.Hawk vs Guile 45:30 T.Hawk vs Claw


#6

CANTONA is my favourite gief player, but ur matchups list is just…very extrange to say the least. I don´t even know in what order you did them (sagat is 7-3 but dhalsim is 4-6 so you really think zangief beats dhalsim?)

Also, are you really saying you think chunli, dhalsim, and akuma matchups are the same than fighting elfuerte or guile?

On my AE experience/knowledge:

Zangief VS Character:

Abel: 5.5-4.5
Adon: 6-4
Akuma: 3-7
Boxer: 5-5
Blanka: Dont know, only played scrub blankas.
Cammy: 5-5
Chun: 3-7
Cody: 5.5-4.5
C.Viper: 5-5
Dan: Dont know
Dee Jay: Didn´t play it much, but it feels a 5-5 imo
Dhalsim: 3.5-6.5
Dudley: 5-5 but not sure, played this matchup a lot more in Super than AE
El fuerte: 4-6
Honda: 5-5
Fei: 4-6
Gen: Dont know
Gouken: 6-4
Guile: 5-5 maybe slight disadvantge for gief, but nothing too crazy.
Guy: Dont know
Hakan: 6-4
Ibuki: 6-4
Juri: VERY bad imo, but need more matchup knowledge.
Ken: 5-5
Makoto: 4-6
M.Bison (dic) : 4-6
Rose: 5-5
Rufus: 6-4
Ryu: Need to play it more against top ryus, matchup changed quite a bit and i dont have an opinion yet.
Sagat: 2-8 worst matchup in the game imo
Sakura: 6-4
Seth: Dont know
T.Hawk: 4-6
Vega (claw): 5-5
Yang: 6-4
Yun: don know yet, need more matchup knowledge
Zangief:----

I´ll posts some vids later on and my point on why some of the matchups are what I posted.


#7

I think Sagat is supposed to be 3-7 on his list.


#8

Yeah definitely a typo…but then again, I don’t think anyone confused it since we’d all jump for joy if the matchup was a 5-5 lol


#9

yeap big ass typo lol …


#10

ummm, i was rushing when i made this but me and you pretty much have the same, except for a few matches . also yes, i think fighting sim, fuerte,guile, are on the same level, because guile if you can’t get in you die trying, sim the same, furerte if he knocks you down theres a small chance of you winning. akuma and chun… i change those lol.

also the reason i mostly picked cantona is because i made a playlist of his videos on my youtube channel and used those first … call it …being lazy lol but i will have more vids of zangiefs coming soon … like tonight lol


#11

I think vs ken is now 4:6
he got buffed , u2 is great can be full comboed. fireball better, more offensive options. back dash no longer pure grounded.
lp dp more damage.better normals ,better links.
he can play like vanilla ryu now, but with better footies


#12

yeah, i agree but i don’t know yet, i wanted to ask vance, and some more people first but yeah i thnk that match up is kens favor.


#13

Is Balrog really a 5-5? I don’t believe it. All he has to do is not do any dash punches and he can terrorize Gief all day with his fast long-reaching normals that hurt a lot and are barely punishable. How the fuck is Gief supposed to get in and do damage when all Rog does is sit on his ass and throw out sweeps and anti-air normals? During footsies his st.FP is super dangerous and since he’s always hanging back you can’t get in on him without risking getting punched out of the air, sweeped or headbutted. This has to be at least a 7-3.


#14

Since ex hand doesnt kd anymore, boxer match up became harder, but this is a very fun matchup.turtle is best tool against boxer now.
turtle , neutral jump headbutt or grab, . jumping toward him or walking toward him I dont think those are good ideas


a hilarious match.


#15

lol, that was the greatest match ever.


#16

because if he just sits there he can get grab, he can’t dash punch if you know how to do crlp os ex hand. Any not perfectly space lp dash is bad on block so you can ultra 1 or lp spd it lol. balrog got worst recovery on his headbutt so now, any blocked headbutt is ultra or any command throw. His j.hp got nerfed so, it’s not as good anymore but still pretty good. also once you knock rog down he’s free as fuck.


#17

The key:

“also once you knock rog down he’s free as fuck.”

This is true in all tiers :wink: maybe except Juri and !?! Yun because his wakeup glitch


#18

[media=youtube]56J7O4LWix8[/media] fucking awesome way cantona handled this fei…THAT’S WHY HE’S THE FUCKING BEST … I LIKE THE 3 EX HANDS IN A ROW LOL…