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This thread is dedicated and will be a collective of all questions you have for Gen’s AE updates. This is how it will work. I would like any one who has access to SSF4AE to PM me. That way I can post a list of names in this main post. Also any questions you have please PM me. This will keep this thread neat and tidy, and leave it for any and all discussions about findings. And leave it open for testers to state they will be going to test(this is assuming some may not be close enough to go there a lot) that way people have time to ask questions knowing someone might be going to test. I will collect and organize all questions and answers to keep this all together so no one has to skim through the full thread to find out what was asked and what was not. That way no double questions, and it will make it easier to find out if your question was answered. Once a question is posted and does not have an answer, testers please contact me letting me know the out come. If any tester wants to reconfirm please do. It better to be sure that something works or doesn’t.
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Q: What possibilities before & after Mantis c.MP? They said it can be linked after s.LP, and c.LP, but what else? (s.MP, c.MP?)
Q: How far into a combo can you be and still be able to perform his TC’s? Meaning could you do a bunch of links then follow-up with a TC. Example: s.MP, s.HP~s.MK-TC / Can you do c.LK xx c.MK TC after a bunch of chains? (eg. c.LK xx c.LK xx c.LK xx c.MK xx Hands)
Q: Does crane c.HP retain its dumb counterhit damage? + Is there any change when you counter the opponent?
Q: Any changes to crane s.LK to make it at least semi-usable?
Q: Any hit box/Recovery buffs to MK/HK/EX Gekiro? (Can MK/HK Gekiro hit crouchers, and can EX Gekiro hit low profile slides?)
Q: Does Oga far kick still have a huge hurtbox against projectiles, or is it easier to dodge them?
Q: Any range nerfs to FA on either stance? (I hope not)
Q: Is Mantis Super (Zanei) -> TK Crane Ultra 2 (Teiga) possible now?
Q: Are there any changes to Crane C.HK’s Active Frames and/or Hitbox range?
Q: Is Gen’s Roll (Jyasen) faster in terms of traveling speed?
Q: Will Combos such as Mantis S.HP/S.MK -> HK Gekiro and Mantis S.MP -> Crane C.MP -> Roll still whiff on many characters, or are they less likely to whiff or won’t?
Q: Are there any changes or new additions to Gen’s abilities, such as Stamina/Stun Rating, Meter Builds, Walking Speeds, Forward Dash, Backdash, Jump Arcs, and Normal Throws?
Q: Are there any changes to any versions of the Oga along with all Kick Variations in terms of Recovery time and/or Crossover Setups?
Q: After landing the Mantis Super (Zanei), will there still be times where Gen travels far out of range to where following up with a HK Gekiro will whiff?
Q: Are there any changes to either of his Mantis Ultra Moves in terms of startup time?
Q: When SSF4 was released, Gen’s Mantis S.MK had its hitbox range reduced, but the hurtbox range was left the same. Was the hurtbox range on Mantis S.MK reduced?
Q: Are there any improvements with the Blockstrings’ of Mantis S.LP, C.LP and C.LK?
Q: Gen received some hurtbox reductions on some of his Crane normals. Did his Crane C.MP (His best Crane Poke) receive a hurtbox reduction as well?
Q: Did Crane Ultra 2 (Teiga) receive additional invincibility frames?
Q: Does the Crane C.MK still retain it’s projectile invincibility?
Q: Is there a change in the transition speed between Stances?
Q: Is crane s.LP, c.LK xx EXFA now possible? (hit-confirmable ultra setup)
Q: Did the stance change after a jump-in get fixed?
Q: Does EX Oga have any invincibility, or do any other moves have added invincibility frames added or removed, what is the situation with escape options?
Q: Does Mantis U2 work better as an Anti-Air now?
Other random Findings:
- Mantis s.HK. High priority, and range seems to be similar to Mantis c.HP
- Something feels different with Crane s.HK, but cannot elaborate
- Something with Crane c.MP. c.MP -> trade with c.LK -> c.MP comboed
- Mantis super -> Crane j.HK connects. Not sure if it happened from before