Super Smash Bros. General - Patience and Spacing....or Whine and Moan


#44554

On another note, this isn’t “new” or anything, but it’s just more reason to make sure you don’t miss a tech against Yoshi:

Found out about f-air jab-locking on complete accident last time I fought @owattjacob.


#44555

i’ve said the same 3 characters for a few months. ZSS, rosalina, and sheik. the best characters. most polarizing, etc. same characters for 3 months so no, it’s not a new character a day.

her reward compared to other characters is absurd. the fact she’s crazy mobile, a crazy combo game, and crazy KO power (maybe the best KO power in the game) is absurd when you look at some characters like DHD, zelda, and even palutena.

she actually gets more reward from a stray hit than sheik. she basically destroys any zoning character. Her up b KOs crazy low and links from up air (which is a crazy good move)


#44556

#44557

Lmao… This guy… What happened to Ryu and how polarizing you said he was? ZSS has the best KO power? You’re comparing her to Zelda and Palutena to prove your point?

Here’s what I need you to do: Play ZSS for a week. After that, let me know what you think.


#44558

It’s not complaining. You guys take everything seeningly negative and make it seem like a complaint.

Zss has a crazy punish game. The fact that any stray hit could lead to death is absurdly good. No other character has it as well as zss does.


#44559

I tend to agree a lot with mood. Except ryus punish game is also really good. I agree with moods opinions on ryu, yoshi, Marth, lucas, zss, and shiek. I don’t really see how his points constitute complaining. You guys just out on a witch hunt now.


#44560

ZSS needs no buffs and no nerfs. Period.


#44561

Game Awards are over, so rumor officially debunked


#44562

If capcom was behind the balance of smash, sheik and zss would be trash by now lol


#44563

If NRS was behind it, they’d be top then bottom then top then bottom then completely overshadowed by new DLC


#44564

Im surprised u see ZSS as more dangerous than sheik. @Mood4food77 Sheik DESTROYS bowser. Like 0-100 matchup in sheiks favor.

I do see what mood is saying. ZSS really has crazy setups, KO Power and spikes. I wouldnt get mad at a slight nerf to the knockback in her down B when you dont spike. But she is difficult to use. No nerfs needed.

Even still, phantom you havent tapped into her full potential, not even 1/4 of her potential. Shes really good. Mood might be odeein, but u might be underestimating her


#44565

I know everything my character can do. Whether or not I’m actually able to play her at that level is irrelevant. I’ve been playing with her and researching her since Day 1 Smash 3DS. You and Mood think she’s better than she is because your lack of experience with the character (both with and against) makes you focus on her strengths and not her weaknesses. She’s one of the best characters in the game. Top 5 easy, arguably top 2/3. However, she’s the most balanced of the top tier characters. She’s in a perfect spot where the risk/reward for her best moves are almost 50/50. She’s not in need of any nerfs or buffs, and it’s fair for her to be where she is.


#44566

she is definitely not the most balanced of the top tiers. i’m still trying to find a weakness for the character. her approach is semi lacking


#44567

Her weakness is SUPER MARIO!

Her issue? NOT BEING SUPER.


#44568

Like I said, play her yourself. That’s by far the easiest way to figure out a character’s weaknesses.


#44569

I told mood in the Irc, shes a super technical character. In no way easy to play, you have to be precise with a lot her moves. It might be me just sucking, but I have to time her nairs very carefully or ill miss and get punish for it. Like Roknin mentioned her Uair strings arent as easy to pull as they look. You have to learn to integrate pivot grabs into your game to mix up your opponent. One whiffed grab and you can face certain death. You cant rush in like Sheik does, with her. She has a very great punish game, but it goes back to her technical side and where you have to bait out the opponent.

She has great kill set ups, and ways to kill, there just a little hard to pull off. Uair kills at around 90% in low stage ceailings, her Bair is a great punish tool, and her stomp is amazing but it has to be set up.Again she might seem bonkers, but this bitch takes skill to play and wont be netting you easy wins, unless your opponent is an idiot!


#44570

Really po? 14 replays?


#44571

Zss is easier to use than sheik

Her dsmash sets up her kill moves, it’s not that hard


#44572

The plot thickens.

Spoiler

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/049/214/eea.jpg


#44573

Lolololol noooo she’s not. Play the character and stop talking out your booty.